Computer
ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»
St.Petersburg codepage 866
Tuesday November 11 1997
20:24
Hello comrade All!
I recently saw the “Sprinter” computer, this computer is interesting because within 1 second it can change its hardware configuration twice. in the near
future, on computers of this type, systems like Windows will be possible, but not only multitasking, but also multi-architecture. For example, in one window you have a PC, and
in another Macintosh.
The computer was designed by the Peters company and will cost fully assembled:
MiniTower case, 3.5" disk drive, mouse, keyboard and set of cords - $169
As a display, you can use a standard color TV with a PAL
decoder.
Technical characteristics:
Z84 CPU (clocked 21 MHz)
RAM 4 MBt
VideoRam 256 kBt (expandable up to 512 kBt)
CMOS and timer
IDE controller
8-bit ISA 2 slots pcs.
COVOX 1x8bit
COM 1 pcs
LPT 1 pcs
What is most interesting about this computer is that when writing your
program, it is possible to insert a block into it, which, before starting
reconfigures all the computer equipment forexecution of the task.
The computer has a hardware copyright protection system.
The video controller supports the following graphic modes
256x192 (16 fixed colors in 8x8 pixel squares) compatible. from ZX-Spectrum
320x256 (40x32 characters)\
| 16 fixed colors in 8x8 pixel squares
640x256 (80x32 characters)/ 256x192 (256 colors from a palette of 16 million colors)
320x256 (256 colors or 16 colors from a palette of 16 million colors)
640x256 (256 colors or 16 colors from a palette in 16 million colors)
640x512 (256 colors or 16 colors from a palette of 16 million colors)
Software compatible with the ZX-Spectrum computer.
Sincerely yours Igor
>> Together We will put an end to all bourgeois evil spirits!!!!!
E-Mail : ray...@itm.spb.su
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Igor is that you?
...why did you tell All about the Computer?
IM> that within 1 second it can change its hardware
IM> configuration twice. in the near future computers of this type will be
AMAZING! 2 times per second! :)))))
IM> multi-architecture. For example, in one window you have a PC, and in another
IM> Macintosh.
Dreamer ;)
IM> Z84 CPU (21 MHz clock)
8bit - Mazda. If they wanted to do something truly new,
they had to either install a Z380 (32bit, code compatible) or 2
Z84.
IM> COVOX 1x8bit
another Mazda. At a minimum, it was necessary to make 2 channels of 8 bits each... A
so...
IM> 256x192 (16 fixed colors in 8x8 pixel squares) compatible. with
... 2 colors out of 16 in a square 8■8 ...
IM> ZX-Spectrum 320x256 (40x32 characters)\
Otherwise, it’s a little different from what is compatible :))))
IM> Software compatible with the ZX-Spectrum computer.
And with no one else. I think that this idea is rotten, because
the time for such monsters (ATM, PROFI etc) has already passed, and it’s easier
to buy a PC/AMIGA and have a spec emulsion (for those who are thirsty), and everything that you
described is as a STANDARD, which will be used by ALL programs, and
not only those that are designed for this purpose sharpened.
p.s. for ~100-150$ you can buy a500:
1280*256/512*4color/4096
640*256/512*16color/4096
320*256/512*64color/4096
4*14bit sound channels
2 game/mouse ports
LPT,SERIAL,FDD 3`5 880Kb/1.76mb
1-2mb ram last time, it was 10 minutes ago.
+ 10 minutes ago.
...
Good Luck...
... Windows Error 015: Unable to exit windows. Try the door.
Long life and prosperity to you Igor!
IM> Software compatible with the ZX-Spectrum computer.
How much compatibility is it? Is there a multicolor?
Can I buy it in Moscow?
Will the company die some time before I get to St. Petersburg?
Guarantee?
Advantages and disadvantages over Prntagon/GRM/Profi/ATM etc...?
What doesn’t work on it?
Through what port address memory?
If you don’t mind, answer as fully as possible...
Sincerely, Nickolay Zabrodotsky AKA ProfeSSor F0lken
■Unsubscribed at 11:23.
... There will be beer and there will be everything else.
Hello Alex.
14 Nov 97 08:09, Alex Letaev wrote to Max Romanoff:
[...]
AL> Right now they will beat you. :-)))))))))))))))))
Well, for some reason, if it helps Speccy, then this is only for the better.
Oleg AKA Olav
... Insert disk 5 of 4 and press any key to continue
NZ> How much is compatible?
100%
NZ> Is there a multicolor?
everything that is on the Specky is also on it
NZ> Is it possible to buy in Moscow?
I think it will be possible
NZ> Will the company die some time before I get to St. Petersburg ?
definitely not
NZ> Warranty ?
1 year
NZ> Advantages and disadvantages over Prntagon/GRM/Profi/ATM etc... ?
Sprinter can emulate all these cars in hardware
NZ> What doesn’t work on it?
everything that works on Specky also works on Sprinter
I personally saw how this computer loses FLI, and heard WAV play
impressive
NZ> Through which port is the memory addressed?
I quote the company's advertising leaflet:
The memory distribution scheme provides compatibility in the organization of pages
from ZX-Spectrum 48 to Scorpion 256 and Peters 256. Additionally, a new memory distribution scheme has been made, which has four page ports connecting any of 256
memory pages in any of the 4 16kb processor blocks
NZ> If you don’t mind, answer as fully as possible...
there is a RAM operations accelerator that allows you to increase the speed of transfer
of information up to the physical speed limit of the main RAM, which dramatically increases
the speed of working with video images.
it is possible to divide the screen into areas with different modes and
various palettes.
and much more(a lot(!))
MR> And with no one else. I think that this idea is rotten, because
On this computer you can easily emulate YAMAHA MSX-2, ATM, PROFI, SCORPION
and the Peters claim that you can also emulate GMX. Moreover, all emulation
is carried out in hardware.
MR> p.s. for ~100-150$ you can buy a500:
or Scorp with 256kBt RAM from Zonov :)
MR> 1-2mb ram as standard, up to 10 possible.
and here 4mbt
MR> + additional screws, etc.
here is also a screw and another CD, and 2 ISA slots 8bit
That is. this way multitasking will be implemented :)))
Warm greetings, Slava!
Vyacheslav is that you?
...why did you tell Igor Maznitsa about the Computer?
VM> That is. In this way, multitasking will be implemented :)))
yeah, exactly - half a second one screen, half a second another :)
p.s. It's all sad, really...
Good Luck...
... Shell to DOS... Come in DOS, do you copy? Shell to DOS...
MR>> AMAZING! 2 times per second! :)))))
VM> That is. in this way multitasking will be implemented :)))
Yes, I was wondering: why exactly 2 times per second, and not 3, or 4...
Maybe they change the configuration by relays?
Just kidding, but have fun!
Good Luck...
... IBM: I'm Being Manipulated.
Glad I found you alive, Max!!!
However, on November 13, 97 you wrote something addressed to Igor Maznitsa:
MR> 4*14bit sound channels
2x14bit. Pervertedly. It is doubtful that it will be possible to play anything in this mode on the A500/A600 better than in standard 4x8bit.
With best wishes, John.
===> #/FUCK/# *mUlTiMeDiA*, #/MAKE/# more $dEmOs$ ===>
Everything is cool.
Which monitor is suitable? Is it possible to connect from the PC?
If you find out anything about the possibility of obtaining the subject in Moscow - let me know.
Hello, Igor!
Friday November 14, 1997 21:15, Igor Maznitsa wrote to Nickolay Zabrodotsky:
[missed...]
IM> everything that works on Specky also works on Sprinter
^^^^^^^^^^
IM> I personally saw how this computer loses FLI, and heard how plays WAV
IM> impressive
^^^ ^^^
;)
IM> Sincerely yours Igor
IM> E-Mail : ray...@itm.spb.su
Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru
Get Msg, Max!
On the topic:
MR> Just kidding, but have fun!
Raster and I challenged each other on the subject: “Who will come out first -
ZXF#7 or ChV?” The loser gives the winner 1 (one) can of piva :))
threat\ Today X*Reversi is going on sale - a logic game with the ability to work
via a modem. IMHO, there aren't even a dozen of these games yet (I only know Laser
Squad)
zyzy\ c CV finishing problems - global lack of memory :((( Day after day
there is a battle for every byte. Not in the sense of optimization, but in the sense of cutting down sprites
and throwing out pieces of code.
But there is already an option for TR-DOS (in FDI format) with several. levels,
F_Cuts and the possibility of shipments. The shipments turned out to be very large (approx. 20
KB), so they will be stored on a separate TR-DOS disk. It is possible to work with
two drives (thanks UKV :), and you can choose which drive to use. The second drive is always 5.25" (to scratch it :), and the first one is
3.5/5.25 to the taste of the buyer. As well as shipping (also any). I think this is
normal, because the surveys did not reveal people using only
3.5 drives.
As was said, for technical reasons, GS support was not included in the game, so a couple of new items appeared in the
setup - “color/non-color game” and “select
disc”.shipments"
Immediately after loading, an endless demo mode begins for those traders
who, using the Logros method, keep a working computer at a trading point. I myself can
watch for hours how they fight in the demo :))
The format of the second disk (where the levels are) is thought out this time in such a way that
it is absolutely independent from the first. Therefore, it is quite likely that in the future
discs with additional missions will appear. In addition new levels, it is possible in advance to
change the graphic design of landscapes, buttons, music and
inter-level graphics. Maybe our so-called hackers will take on the release of new missions, but one should be skeptical about such a possibility
:))
There is still no protection (there is nowhere to place it), but there will be :)
There is still no Pentagon (this is to). Volodya :)
Warm greetings, Slava!
Vyacheslav is that you?
...why did you tell me about Social. competition?
VM> will it be released - ZXF#7 or ChV?" The loser gives the winner 1 (one) jar
VM> piva :))
I hope, the one that is 15 liters?! ;)
VM> cutting down sprites and throwing out pieces of code.
:(((
VM> There is still no protection (nowhere to place it), but there will be :)
on the screen :) From above ;)))
VM> There is still no Pentagon (this is for Volodya :)
;)
Good Luck...
... No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Alex is that you?
...why did you tell me about Re: Computer?
AL> Right now they will beat you. :-)))))))))))))))))
who? Is there anyone here who knows that there is something different
from Z80/8bit?! and Intel?
Good Luck...
... And there were plagues of locusts, and frogs, and MS-DOS, and MS Windows.
IM> On this computer you can easily emulate YAMAHA MSX-2, ATM, PROFI, SCORPION and
I would not say with such ease that you can emulate MSX.
The rest are Spectrum compatible. The difference between them is insignificant.
And even then, 100% is not realistic to achieve. Something will definitely not work.
After all, everywhere and always there have been craftsmen who worked with hardware not
as it was written, but as it turned out.
IM> The Peters claim that it is possible to emulate GMX as well. Moreover, all emulation
IM> is carried out in hardware.
I'm afraid that it won't handle emulation a bit. Not the same system. If
there was a Z280+, then it’s possible, but so... Without MMU, decent screen emulation
cannot be done. If only the emulated device does not use any
drivers that can be patched.
IM> or Scorp with 256 kBt RAM from Zonov :)
compared - 8bit Tarantas with a 16-bit system...
IM> and here 4MBt
Aha, cut into small ones slices. and 8-bit.
IM> here is also a screw and also a CD, and 2 ISA 8-bit slots
well? You forgot about the main thing: software. Without software, a piece of hardware remains a piece of hardware. There is so much software on the sprinter - it will never exist
(if it has, this life)...
Good Luck...
... On a Pentium, when x=4195835.0 and y=3145727.0, x - (x y) / y = 256.
Igor is that you?
...why did you tell Nickolay Zabrodotsky about Re: Computer?
NZ>> How much is compatible?
IM> 100%
even the best models were compatible at max. by 95-98%. A
sprinter - and even that should be less, due to
too sophisticated hardware.
IM> no, definitely
still, she sells pussies :)))
Good Luck...
... Will the information superhighway have any rest stops?
MR> yes? Why are you not a dreamer? The fact that you want to see emuls
MR> of something on this weak coffin? Maybe I’m narrow-sighted, but I
MR> see perfectly well that a tarataika with such characteristics with 0 software, yes
MR> and for that kind of money - today, it’s already a dead issue.
My opinion: there are people who do the job, and there are others who crap everything,
especially good, because they themselves have nothing capable.
IMHO they offer a good home computer for the price of a video console,
plus hundreds of megabytes of created software. Many people, especially children,
unlike you, will thank the authors for such an alternative.
By the way, judging by your ORIGIN, you have no future at all.
Or am I wrong?
Bye,
Andrey
Andrey is that you?
...why did you tell me about the Computer?
AR> My opinion: there are people who do the work, and there are people who all
AR> crap,
yes, there are. They always have been.
AR> especially good, because they themselves are not capable of anything.
A hint at me? Yes, my friend, I’ve only seen Spectrum on emuls
... sit down, it’s better and don’t talk about inabilities... Don’t judge by yourself
, in general.
AR> IMHO they offer a good home computer for the price of a video set-top box,
It would have been good 3 years ago, YES and with the condition of a good one
software support (remember how many monsters died without
appropriate support)... Spectrum is popular only because of
the richness of its software and its low cost. You are offering a monster that
can be a Spectrum and use all the wealth of software (it will no longer have its
wealth)... If a person needs toys,
it’s better to have a video console. If mail/fido/internet on limited
means - A500...
AR> plus hundreds of megabytes of created software. Many people, especially children,
Hundreds of megs were not created for him. And for spec - don't confuse it. And the people
will think 10 times before taking an exotic car, and
overpaying for those features that may never
be widely supported....
AR> unlike you, they will thank the authors for such an alternative.
The time has passed to talk thank you.Nowadays such monsters (read -
freaks) are completely uncompetitive even with the frailest home
machines (a500)... Due to the fact that the latter have a LOT of software, but these
do not.
AR> By the way, judging by your ORIGIN you have nothing at all
AR> bydyty.
Has. There is no prospect of making another jalopy on the Z80
(8bit) system. Although, for others, nothing good will come of it
(there will be quite a big incompatibility)...
AR> Or am I wrong?
you are wrong in everything. It’s immediately obvious that Sinclair was seen only under emulsion
on his dad’s Pentium...
Good Luck...
... Budget: A method for going broke methodically.
IM> 100%
So 100%?
Somehow I can’t believe it. The Peters have been promising this same compatibility for several years.
And all this time it has not happened. The last time I saw confirmation was on E'97.
Has the outcome of the case changed so much in 3 months?
With respect, Nikolai.
MR> you are wrong in everything. It’s immediately obvious that I saw Sinclair only under emulsion
MR> on my dad’s Pentium...
Just look at the reaction of echo subscribers.
Don’t you think you’re alone in your opinion?
Now about my dad’s Pentium: I’ve been working on Sinclair (branded)
since 1985, and started collecting them in 1989.
You’re right, s 1992 I have a PC, but, IMHO, this is not a reason to criticize your story :-)).
Please, if you answer, answer with soap so as not to clog up the echo.
That's all,
Andrey
St.Petersburg codepage 866
Monday November 17 1997
20:05
Hello comrade Nickolay!
* Saturday November 15 1997 13:51, Nickolay Zabrodotsky write to Igor Maznitsa
* Subj: ~Comp~
NZ> Everything is cool.
NZ> Which monitor is suitable? Is it possible to connect from the PC?
Unfortunately, connecting a PiSish monitor is in the future
NZ> If you find out anything about the possibility of obtaining a subject in Moscow -
NZ> let me know.
OK
AR> Just look at the reaction of echo subscribers.
AR> Don’t you think that you are alone in your opinion?
Subscribers of this echo, not everyone writes from Sinclair. And they don't care
that another *mutant* will appear - born dead...
Or do you think that now, with the ZX market practically *faded*,
everyone will rush to buy a *completely* new, and such a strange computer.
Some people, simply, will count the money and say: what for do I need this mutant? for 160$? What is this, and where can I get software for it?
Yes, they will write software (I hope, at a minimum), but it will be COMMERCIAL,
i.e. cost money for ordinary users, taking into account the 'hardware
copyright protection - users will have no choice: they will have
to buy. There is still no such thing on Sinclair as shareWare, which
has been successfully practiced for many years on other platforms, and brings
good results...
So, the user will think whether it is worth overpaying sticky
money for an 8-bit mutant set-top box, and after thinking some more a couple of times, he’ll go and
buy himself... either a pe-tse (if there’s a lot of money) or an A500. What can you
on a500? Everything that is now created with such difficulty on Sinclair:
work in networks, including the Internet. This is the smallest thing. I'm not
talking about a huge database of toys and various software... It's ALREADY
there, and you don't have to wait for anything, just reach out and take it.
(free - sharavera, well, I’ve come to my senses ;)
AR> Now about my dad’s Pentium: On Sinclair (branded)
AR> I’ve been working since 1985, and started collecting them in 1989.
Branded? ;). In short, I’m talking about the fact that making another original
computer today, with a Z80, is simply stupid. It doesn't matter how many megabytes
of brains it has...
Good Luck...
... The Amiga is to computers as Harley Davidson is to motorcycles
IM>> MSX-2, ATM, PROFI, SCORPION and
MR> I would not say so easily that you can emulate MSX.
MR> The rest are Spectrum compatible. The difference between them is insignificant.
MR> And even then, 100% is not realistic to achieve. Something will definitely not work.
MR> After all, everywhere and always there have been craftsmen who worked with hardware not
MR> as it was written, but as it turned out.
Have you worked in circuit design? I officially declare that Sprinter is capable of 99.9% emulating any computer based on a Z80
MR> processor, so what? You forgot about the main thing: software. Without software, a piece of hardware remains
MR> a piece of hardware. There is so much software on the sprinter - there will never be a lifetime
MR> (if it has this life)...
software is already being written with might and main (and quite cool)
Sincerely yours Igor
P.S. It’s strange, as I found out here, for Scorpio, during its entire existence
about 2 full-fledged games were released, and everything else just used a
virtual disk. If I’m wrong, please correct me.
Hello, comrade Max!
MR> Or do you think that now, with the ZX market almost *faded*,
MR> everyone will rush to buy a *completely* new, and such a strange computer.
MR> Some people, simply, will count the money and say: what for do I need
MR> this mutant? for 160$? What is this, and where can I get software for it?
MR> Yes, they will write software (I hope, at a minimum), but it will be COMMERCIAL,
MR> i.e. cost money for ordinary users, taking into account the 'hardware
MR> copyright protection' - users will have no choice: they will have to
MR> buy. In Sinclair there is still no such thing as shareWare, which
MR> has been successfully practiced for many years on other platforms, and brings
MR> good results...
the software will not be more expensive than before, it will just not be sold from many
trays, but from strictly defined ones
there will be an incentive to write programs, because you will know what you will get for this
grandmother.
Sincerely yours Igor
MR> Hundreds of megs were not created for him. And for spec - don't confuse it. And the people
MR> will think 10 times before taking an exotic car, and
MR> overpaying for those opportunities that may never
MR> be widely supported....
when Zonov saw this car (according to the story of the director of the Peters company N. Noskov), then
he said that they were trying to remove from the market by selling such a powerful car at a
VERY LOW PRICE
MR> The time has passed to say thank you. Nowadays such monsters (read -
MR> freaks) are completely uncompetitive even with the frailest home
MR> machines (a500)... Due to the fact that the latter have a LOT of software, and
MR> these ones do not.
software will appear on this machine quickly, due to its power. Not only amateurs, but also professional companies (for example, ITM) became interested in it.
IM>> 100%
NP> So really 100%?
NP> Somehow I can’t believe it. The Peters have been promising this same compatibility for
NP> for several years. And all this time she was gone. The last time I saw
NP> confirmation was on E'97. Has the outcome
NP> of the case really changed so much in 3 months?
at that time the Sprinter was still damp, but now things are incomparably better
MR> who? Is there anyone here who knows that there is something different
MR> from Z80/8bit?! and Intel?
Well, me, for example. :)))) I once programmed on the MK-61. And a year ago
- “Stream Computer 7915”.
Good luck! Evgeny.
■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.
Hello comrade Max!
MR> even the best models were compatible max. by 95-98%. A
MR> sprinter - and even that should be less, due to
MR> the hardware is too sophisticated.
maybe not 100%, well, 99.99% is fine
MR> still, she sells pussies :)))
and Zonov too with all his might :)))
Hello Igor Maznitsa! In a message of 19 Nov 97 Igor Maznitsa wrote to Max Romanoff:
IM> If you need it, then finish it. You're probably sitting on PiSishka, that's all
Whoever is, he will never sit on PC.
With respect, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.
IM> Don’t you think that, on the other hand, the lack of software has
IM> positive qualities. For example, so much software has accumulated on PiSyuk that
IM> perhaps soon PeeCi
IM> will collapse under its weight. For example, who will now develop
IM> a text editor for PeeCi, and at the same time will hope to sell
IM> it. To whom he
IM> why the hell will he be needed, because there is Word
In principle, yes! You're right, and most importantly, PC users are accustomed to crooked software, and they don't just buy what's better, but what's more beautiful and popular. Specky and
Sprinter have passed this cup, and that’s good news. And on PC, if someone writes something better than Word, everyone in Word will turn gray anyway. :-))))
P.S. We need a sprinter!
IM> If you need it, then finish it. You're probably sitting on PiSishka, that's all
Who knows, he will never sit on PC.
:-) I already imagined how RML loads Win95 at home ;-)))
Best wishes, ZOOL00K of PHT
Sincerely yours Igor
>> Together We will put an end to all bourgeois evil spirits!!!!!
E-Mail : ray...@itm.spb.su
Hello Igor.
19 Nov 97 20:29, Igor Maznitsa wrote to Max Romanoff:
MR>> we worked with hardware not as it was written, but as it turned out.
IM> Were you involved in circuit design? I officially declare that Sprinter
IM> is capable of emulating 99.9% of any computer based on
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IM> Z80 processor
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is, SEGA MEGADRIVE too?! It's also based on the Z80. If this is possible
then the sprinter will survive as a Shogi emulator for which there are a lot of toys!!!
On PC there is a compact with images of cartridges for Shogi.
PS of course IMHO
WBR Iliya
... roads in hell paved with the skulls of unbaptized children -= Russian Team GUS =-
IK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IM>> Z80 processor
IK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IK> That is, SEGA MEGADRIVE too?! It's also based on the Z80. If it is
IK> possible
IK> then the sprinter will survive as a shogi emulator for which there are a lot of toys!!!
In sega the Z80 is used as a music processor. And the central
processor there is 68XXX (IMHO) - like on the Amiga ;)
-=> Yury <=-
Hello Iliya.
21 Nov 97 09:38, Iliya Kaledin wrote to Igor Maznitsa:
IK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Igor is that you?
...why did you tell me about Re: Computer?
IM> maybe not 100%, well, 99.99% is fine
you can say - 120%. This will be the same truth as 99.99%.
IM> a Zonov is also in full swing :)))
that's why we still haven't seen the new scorpion.
Good Luck...
... Ever notice how fast Windows 3.1 runs? Neither have I...
IM> Don’t you think that, on the other hand, the absence of software has
IM> positive qualities. For example, so much software has accumulated on PiSyuk that
the absence of software has never been a positive quality. Nowhere.
IM> perhaps soon PiC will collapse under its weight. For example, who is not now
no, it will collapse due to the wretchedness of the iron. It started a long time ago.
IM> If you need it, then finish it. You’re probably sitting on PiSishka, and everything
IM> the rest is on your side, just browse the master. I haven’t seen the computer, a
No, you know, I’m sitting on an Amiga, there’s one nearby KAY256 (worker), I'm doing
my job.
IM> you say something there, you're trying to reason. If you don't believe me, then ask
IM> Slava Mednonogov's opinion about the Sprinter
Yes? Have you fallen from the moon? Comrade Mednonogov lives across the street from me, and I heard this opinion a long time ago. It is practically no different from mine. And I reason because the sprinter is another
another WINGLESS craft on the Z80.
IM> Turkey also thought...
collision? Or do you simply have nothing to write about?
IM> Have you worked in circuit design? I officially declare that Sprinter is capable
yes, he was. I was also involved in programming and other things.
IM> emulating 99.9% of any computer based on a Z80 processor
99.9 is nonsense. I mean, what you said is 99.9% nonsense. For
emulation of any computer on Z80 compatibleHowever, you must have a MINIMUM
MMU. It's not in the sprinter. -> 99.9% go to hell, leaving .1% -
Spectrum-compatible computers, where there is almost no need to emulate, and
the main modes of which are built into the hardware.
IM> software is already being written in full swing (and quite cool)
ah yes... already... cool... Something seems to me that someone
is inventing the wheel.
IM> P.S. It’s strange, as I found out here, for Scorpio, for the entire time of its
IM> existence, about 2 full-fledged games were released, and everything else just
IM> used a virtual disk. If I’m wrong, please correct me.
announce the whole list, please.
BTW, to your P.S. No, you noticed that they did only 2
things for the scorpion (this is for someone, which is almost a Spectrum..), and you
want them to do a lot of cool things in a short time under some
sprinter, having practically no instrumental
base (I mean - for programmers)... For Spectrum still
does not have a normal graphic editor, sprite designer... Do you
think that someone will write them for a completely new
platform at the moment?
Good Luck...
... I have two computers. Can I breed them?
IM> the software will not be more expensive than before, it will just not be sold at the same price
Not more expensive than 5 thousand per disk? With 10 programs? Or 25 grand for 2
discs with the 1st program? What do you think is not more expensive?
IM> many trays, but from strictly defined ones
yeah, we know, they swam. In a few days, everything is everywhere.
IM> there will be an incentive to write programs, because you will know what you will get for
IM> this is money.
Whoever can write writes on a simple Spectrum, and not on a mythical
machine for 2-3 users. In the regular Spectrum market
- money can be earned faster, due to the strong
prevalence of Spectrum. There is no point in suffering for something new
for the sake of meager profits.
Good Luck...
... OS/2: a better Windows than Windows... but still a Windows.
IM> when Zonov saw this car (according to the story of the director of the Peters company
IM> N. Noskova), he stated that they were trying to dislodge him from the market by selling
IM> such a powerful machine at a VERY LOW PRICE
He’s joking. It is no longer possible to sweep Scorpio out of the market. It has taken root
:)))
IM> software will quickly appear on this machine, due to its power.
Is it so powerful that it can write programs itself?
IM> not only amateurs, but also professional companies (for example,
IM> ITM) are interested
ITM? This is the first time I hear it (that means we are amateurs)
Good Luck...
... Have you crashed your Windows today?
AL> In principle, yes! You're right, and most importantly, users are accustomed to
AL> crooked software, and they don't buy exactly what's better, but what's prettier and
AL> more popular. Specky and Sprinter have passed this cup, and that’s good news. And on PC
AL> if someone writes something better than Word, everyone in Word will turn grey
AL> anyway. :-))))
In my opinion, on the PC, and not on the PC as you swear, the time has come
for “interesting software”, i.e. people buy a CoPact and select The Best according to their
opinion, consulting with their comrades - like dug up the good old one, or reasoning
like this - everyone uses Word and I will use it??? and let's see who will ultimately come up with a better document. Those. There’s no need to tell fairy tales; they don’t write anything commercial except Word. Although Word is recognized as a guarantee of
stability for a reason - it is by nature a good editor. By the way, recommend
some kind of non-crooked editor on PC or point out the crookedness of the first one.
In general, we are talking about Speccy here :) . And I liked the idea of a sprinter - the main thing is that the price was affordable for people. By the way, I would write
for it - if they paid me at least a little, otherwise I was already writing for the benefit of the Spectrum,
and I earned little money (not the right word).
In short, why discuss Word in the echo about the Spectrum? Is this how you drive people away from PCs? It would be better if they talked about the good side of the Spectrum... By the way
how much does the Z80 cost fromsprinter? I just didn’t get these processors in Odessa.
Ruslan.
pain is that you?
...why did you tell Iliya Kaledin about the Comp? ≤afaik, 16ti bit graphics, ie. graph. proc.,
though who knows…≥
Good Luck…
… MS-DOS: celebrating ten years of continuous obsolescence.
Get Msg, Max!
22 Nov 97 21:27, Max Romanoff reported to Igor Maznitsa about {Re: Computer}:
MR> Yes? Have you fallen from the moon? Comrade Mednonogov lives across the street from
MR> me, and I heard this opinion a long time ago. It is practically no
MR> different from mine.
Max, in this matter it is different
Warm greetings, Slava!
Get Msg, Alex!
20 Nov 97 08:20, Alex Letaev reported to Igor Maznitsa about {Re: Computer}:
IM>> If you need it, then finish it. You’re probably sitting on PiSishka, that’s all
IM> is capable of emulating 99.9% of any computer based on
IM> a Z80 processor
Oh how!
Tell me how you will emulate the Philips video processor from MSX2????
Or emulation of this MSX will consist of running MSX DOS v1.0?
And one more question: What about GameBoy emulation? Will branded cartridges be
connected?
With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)
[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team For Garage] [Team Khasansky border guards]
With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)
[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team For Garage] [Team Khasansky border guards]
IK>> So SEGA MEGADRIVE too?! It’s also based on the Z80. If it happens
Vyacheslav is that you?
...why were you telling Alex Letaev about the Computer?
VM> But he dreams about it. Very often piss compacts come onto the market
VM> take a look :)
I’ll say it in your words: I wouldn’t be so sure (or whatever you said
about opinion) :))
Good Luck...
... 1:"AMIGA RULES" 2:"IBM RULES" 3:"Mac RULES" 1&2:"Shuttup, moron"
Vyacheslav is that you?
...why were you telling me about the Computer?
VM> Max, in this matter it’s different
To the crowd you said something else. Clear. That's all with you. Here you have a separate
opinion.
Good Luck...
... Windows Error 00E: Window open, do not look in.
By the way, I forgot - clarify what exactly and on what points. (your
opinion here).
But somehow I don’t see you as an innovator, advocating for new
hardware, due to the lack of sound in the new GS toy... What can we say
about a completely new computer?
Good Luck...
... VirusScan: MS Windows found. Delete? (Y/y)
IK> perhaps the sprinter will survive as a shogi emulator for toys
IK> wow!!! On the PC there is a compact with images of cartridges for Shogi.
Hello Vyacheslav Mednonogov! In a message of 23 Nov 97 Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to me:
VM> But he dreams about it. Very often he comes to the market for pussy compacts
VM> to look :)
If he had looked at them, he certainly would not have sat down for a pussy ever. :-))))))))
MR>>>> we worked with hardware not as it was written, but as it turned out.
IM>>> Did you work in circuit design? I officially declare that Sprinter
IM>>> is capable of emulating 99.9% of any computer based on
IK>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IM>>> Z80 processor
IK>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MR> You told the crowd something else. Clear. That's all with you. Here you have a separate
MR> opinion.
Let's each be responsible for himself. And don’t bully others...
Warm greetings, Slava!
MR> By the way, I forgot - clarify what exactly and on what points. (your
MR> opinion here).
About the Sprinter? Please...
"It's always better to do something new than to do nothing at all"
Print it out and stick it on your forehead :)
MR> iron, due to the lack of sound in the new GS toy...
Well, it didn't work out :) Next time... Probably :)
With warm regards, Glory!
Alex is that you?
...why were you telling pain about Re: Computer?
AL> 32 bits!
Outside-16. Inside there was a separate issue. If you still
think that 68000 is 32bit, then in that case - Z80 is 16bit
;) So what? There are several 16-bit registers...
Good Luck...
... Single tasking? Just say no!
VM> Let's each be responsible for ourselves. And don’t put others down...
I didn’t start to remember others.
p.s. Arty witness ;)
Good Luck...
... A mainframe: The biggest PC peripheral available.
VM> “It’s always better to do something new than to do nothing at all”
This applies to everything. Yes, including sprinters. But he *created*
quite a lot. Time has passed. Today's market will not accept another monster
without support.
By the way, they could have taken a more intelligent path than reinventing
the wheel.
VM> Well, it didn’t work out :) Next time... Probably :)
See? Your words have no effect here. I'm talking about the fact that you didn't manage to do something new. I mean GS support.
Good Luck...
... Microsoft, does that mean small and limp?
Get Msg, Max!
26 Nov 97 13:25, Max Romanoff reported to Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {Comp}:
MR> By the way, they could have taken a more competent path than inventing
MR> the bicycle.
??? Which way is more competent? Ahhhh... manufacturing 500x Amig on
domestic element base (c) Logros :))
MR> Do you see? Your words have no effect here. I'm talking about the fact that you didn't succeed in doing something
MR> new. In the sense of GS support.
The official version is lack of memory. Like, what is more necessary - to support GS or
to put, for example, protection (2). Of course - No.2
ps2ALLproChV\ protection has not yet been inserted, but 26 levels out of 32 have been tested.
I honestly passed twelve of them, the rest, it seems, should also be passed ;)
The hardest level (so far) is “People-#13”. I wanted to throw it out, but on the 50th
attempt I passed by accident :)) Brother is a witness.
Warm greetings, Slava!
IK>>> That is, SEGA MEGADRIVE too?! It’s also based on the Z80. If it is
IK>>> perhaps the sprinter will survive as a shogi emulator for which toys
IK>>> wow!!! On PC there is a compact with images of cartridges for Shogi.
VM> ??? Which way is more literate? A-a-a... manufacturing 500x Amig
VM> on a domestic element base (c) Logros :))
you're delusional. Although you know that this is not real. The smart way is to produce something for an existing fleet of machines. In short:
periphery. It is possible to have a type of accelerator that is installed in the processor panel, and
has its own memory, and a fast processor...
VM> The official version is a lack of memory. Like, what is more necessary - to support
VM> GS or to install, for example, protection (2). Of course - No.2
:) Well lana, I know ;)
Good Luck...
... M(ighty)S(ucky)-DOS
IK>> it will be possible that the sprinter will survive as a shogi emulator under
IK>> which has a lot of toys!!! On PC there is a compact with images of
IK>> cartridges for Sega.
EO> Damn, smart!
EO> In Sega there is a slightly different mikruha!
EO> The letter Z in the name of the mikru does not mean Z80 !!!
Already in the know. It's a pity...
By the way, is anyone selling sprinters in 5020?
wbr Iliya
... the roads in hell are paved with the skulls of unbaptized children -= Russian Team GUS =-
MR> The smart way is to manufacture something using an existing fleet of
MR> machines. In short: peripherals.
This is one of the smart ways :)
MR> It is possible to have a type of accelerator that is installed in the processor panel, and
MR> has its own memory, and fast processing...
This smart path is already being followed at the Scorpio company...
By the way, why bother - the Sprinter will be released in December (they say:), and immediately everything
will be visible...
Warm greetings, Slava!
Alex is that you?
...why were you telling me about Re: Computer?
AL> Register pairs, these are not registers.
eh! A SP, a PC? On a scooter, I can turn 80-bit numbers -
FPU. Does that mean it's 80bit? Proc. NO, everywhere the processors go along the bus.
It is the bus that apparently separates.
Good Luck...
... New from McAfee: WiScan. Removes all Windows programs.
Vyacheslav is that you?
...why did you tell me about the Computer?
VM> This is one of the smart ways :)
for today - this is the only remaining way. Because There is no point in developing
something new.
VM> The Scorpio company is already following this competent path...
Yes? Break it off. They are making a video lotion. About the axel - this is the first time
I've heard.
VM> By the way, why bother - Sprinter will be released in December (they say:), and
VM> everything will be visible right away...
Yes, which one of me is right :)
Good Luck...
... Using a single-tasking computer is a sign of low self esteem.
Good afternoon (morning, evening, night), Vyacheslav!
Once on November 28, 97 at 00:59, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Max Romanoff...
...and here it was skipped...
VM> ps2ALLproChV\ protection is not inserted yet,
So throw it here!!! :)))
Bye, Vladimir :)
... Now you can turn off the computer's power...
Glad I found you alive, Alex!!!
However, on November 27, 97 you wrote something addressed to Max Romanoff:
AL> The insides of the processor are the main thing: inside 32! The bus, it’s not really a processor anymore,
AL> it’s a bus.
The productivity of a processor is always determined by the data bus.
Hi, Alex!
27 Nov 97, Alex Letaev writes to Max Romanoff:
AL> The insides of the processor are the main thing: there are 32 inside! A tire, it’s not quite a percent anymore,
AL> it’s a tire.
Yeah. Let's make an 8-bit bus for the 68030 and let's drag ourselves...
MR>> you think that the 68000 is 32 bit, then in this case the Z80 is 16
MR>> bit ;) So what? There are several 16-bit registers...
AL> Register pairs are not registers.
Yeah. And 16-bit mathematics is emulation for lamers who do not understand
the primary nature of the core and the secondary nature of the bus...
PS: will there really be a RU.AMIGA branch here soon?
It’s a pity that so many literate people will leave...
Hello Max Romanoff! In a message of 29 Nov 97 Max Romanoff wrote to me:
MR> eh! A SP, a PC? On a scooter, I can turn 80-bit numbers -
MR> FPU. Does that mean it's 80bit? Proc. NO, everywhere the processors go along the bus.
MR> It is the bus that separates apparently.
In principle, you are right, but these registers are not just registers, but
specialized ones, that is, not for user data, but for service
data of the processor. And in a scooter they are for user data and for user
operations. Stack printing will not work as an example, because it is perverted. :-))))
I’m sitting, drinking beer - and then I see Igor Maznitsa coming! Hello!
14 Nov 97 Igor Maznitsa wrote this to Max Romanoff:
IM>> COVOX 1x8bit
MR> another Mazda. At a minimum, it was necessary to have 2 channels of 8 bits
MR> to do... A
MR> so...
And someone promised a multi-channel sound card for the Sprinter, as
de facto! something like DMA or DDP (call it as
hosh), or again does everything fall on the shoulders of the guy?
PS And it’s clear to a fool that Sprinter without software will die like hell,
therefore the question is: what software is already there, who writes/has written/will
write it?
[SCOOTER TEAM] Good luck!!!
[KASTANEDA TEAM] Sincerely, Eugene!
... Eh, and with the sound you drove away all the noise, guys...:(
Alex is that you?
...why were you telling me about Re: Computer?
AL> In principle, you are right, but these registers are not just registers, but
AL> are specialized, that is, not for user data, but for service
AL> processor data. And on a scooter they are for user data and for
why? I can use them. For example, SP has been used very well
lately, in addition, mat
actions are done with it. Why not a register? Moreover, not from halves, but whole ->
Z80 - 16bit :)
AL> user operations. Stack printing will not work as an example, because it is perverted.
AL> :-))))
No.....! Netushki! Show me the literature where it is stated that 68000
is 32x size? Everywhere max. write 16/32 with an explanation why. Well yes
lana.
Good Luck...
... Windows Error 004: Multitasking attempted. System dying.
Paul is that you?
...why were you telling me about the Computer?
PF> I was here in Logros the other day, dangerous wants the sources
PF> of the black crow so they can put the sounds there - do it separately according to
PF> the procedure for the sound does not want in any way.
late woke up... late...
PF> IMHO, Slava (Mednonogov) is doing it, well, he doesn’t want to and doesn’t need to,
PF> He won’t sell Voronov any more from this...
Basically, in this case, roughly speaking, Dangerous crap himself,
procrastinating on support and not giving it out on time. Although, you can listen
CopperHoof's excuse about the fact that there is not enough memory :)
PF> pps. (not to be confused with PowerPC :) the sprinter is a chance to earn
PF> a little bit of Russian money...
...To its authors, having sold 10 cars...
Good Luck...
... 8088 = model T Ford. Pentium = supercharged 400 horsepower model T Ford.
Iliya is that you?
...why did you tell Evgeny Onishko about the Computer?
IK> By the way, does anyone sell sprinters in 5020?
Do you think they will ever start trading?
Good Luck...
... KlingonDOS error: Command or filename without honor
AK> Yeah. And 16-bit mathematics is an emulation for lamers who do not
AK> cut through
AK> the primacy of the core and the secondary nature of the bus...
For those who are into tanks by spelling: a register pair is a pair consisting of
two registers, with all of them ticking out! Now quickly find a 16-bit
register in 68000, if not, then better be silent.
AK> PS: will there really be a branch of RU.AMIGA here soon?
Notice that you were the first to say about ami, but we talked about atari, for example. No, here
soon there will be a party of raving people like you, who imagine Amiga
in everything. :-))))))))))))
AK> It’s a pity that so many literate people will leave...
Where? Where? Why? If you stop coming out with left mesags, then no.
Hello Max Romanoff! In a message of 01 Dec 97 Max Romanoff wrote to me:
MR> No.....! Netushki! Show me the literature where it is stated that 68000
MR> is 32x size? Everywhere max. write 16/32 with an explanation why. Well yes
MR> lana.
OK. We passed.
JS> IX, IY, PC, SP.
~~~~~~
Pairs - ld lx,10, ld hx,15. :-)))) The rest are for service information inside the processor, and not for the user. OK, let's move on, imho it's an eternal debate. :-))))
IX, IY. These are not LX/LY and HX/XY pairs. At least in no other dock have I heard of dividing them into eight-bit registers. Although, IMHO, internally the z80 processes them
as a pair of 8-bit bits.
In short, forget about this topic. Manufacturers of processors, I think, know better with what capacity they produce processors.
VK> So throw it here!!! :)))
Wait...
However, I cut out one level and made another demo version out of it :)
Only for emulator players! I’ll post it after the release of the ChV...
Warm greetings, Slava!
MR> Do you think they will ever start trading?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think 1-2 pieces will probably appear on Mitka. What seems most interesting to me now
is the sale compact with programs for specs. I'll take it as soon as it appears.
WBR Iliya
... I didn’t know how to love, but I wanted to be loved -= Russian Team GUS =-
Alex is that you?
...why were you telling Andrey Khristov about Re: Computer?
AL> bit register, if not, then better be silent.
Can I finish with FLAME? CCR - 16 bits :)
Good Luck...
... If at first you don't succeed, work for Microsoft.
:))) just yesterday I was talking about the .999 beta demo :)) hee hee - it looks like a prophet. We are waiting,
Slava, we are waiting! and my congratulations on another success!
Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net
Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/
Hello John Stunner! In a message of 02 Dec 97 John Stunner wrote to me:
JS> In short, forget about this topic. Manufacturers of processors, I think, know better with
JS> what bit capacity they produce processors with.
OK.
AL> In principle, you are right, but these registers are not just registers, but
AL> specialized, that is, not for user data, but for service
AL> processor data. And in a scooter they are for user data and for user
AL> operations. Stack printing will not work as an example, because it is perverted. :-))))
You've been absorbing this topic for six months in RU.AMIGA... In fact, this is nothing
other than self-soothing :)
Warm greetings, Slava!
Get Msg, Paul!
24 Nov 97 00:00, Paul Falcon reported to Max Romanoff about {Comp}:
MR>> But somehow I don’t see you as an innovator advocating for new
MR>> hardware, due to the lack of sound in the new GS toy... What can
MR>> say about a completely new computer?
PF> I was here in Logros the other day, dangerous wants the sources
PF> black raven to put sounds there - do it separately according to
PF> the procedure for the sound does not want in any way.
Thank you for warning - I will deliberately “bomb” GS by sending to the port
left values :)
PF> IMHO it’s correct Slava (Mednonogov) does it, well, he doesn’t want and doesn’t it’s necessary, Voronov
PF> this won’t make him sell any more...
Yes, I just didn’t mind for a whole year. At first Stinger balked - he was too cool to give out a few lines of calling the GS effects. Okay, I
wouldn’t fall apart, I’d go to Raster five times and test it. But Dangerous itself did not deliver the promised effects. And only when I had already made the AY effects myself, and had thrown out all the menus about GS, he remembered. And I also told Logros a slander :))) Horseradish, out of
principle I won’t put it back (and there’s nowhere else to do it)
(However, he received permission to voice the enloks :)
PF> ps. Slava (Mednonogov) take the xreversy disk from Raster - present
PF> damn it from me (although you would have received it anyway) :)
Oh,thanks. It's the same for me. Possibly the 6th. It seems like everything was put together and tested
under TR-DOS (except for protection) - no worse than your xReversi :) The size is immeasurable - ~900
kil in compression (without duplicates)!
And you won’t be able to get beer from Tolik - he really intends to release the
7th format of the 6th!
PF> ps. (not to be confused with PowerPC :) sprinter is a chance to earn
Get Msg, Iliya!
28 Nov 97 20:16, Iliya Kaledin reported to Evgeny Onishko about {Comp}:
IK> By the way, does anyone sell sprinters in 5020?
Nobody sells them yet, because... release is scheduled for December
Warm greetings, Slava!
Get Msg, Max!
01 Dec 97 21:13, Max Romanoff reported to Paul Falcon about {Comp}:
MR> Basically, in this case, roughly speaking, Dangerous crap himself,
MR> by procrastinating on support and not issuing it on time. Although, you can listen
MR> Copper Hoof’s excuse about not having enough memory :)
Come on, come on, make friends :)
Warm greetings, Slava!
Good afternoon (morning, evening, night), Vyacheslav!
Once 02 Dec 97 at 00:34, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Vladimir Kacev...
VM> However, I cut out one level and made another
VM> demo version out of it :) Only for emulator players! I'll post it after the release of the movie...
How's that? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is not possible, or what? Or will it not work on the original? 8-O
Iliya is that you?
...why were you telling me about the Computer?
IK> I think 1-2 pieces will probably appear on Mitka.
yeah, museum pieces...
IK> The most interesting thing right now seems to me to be for sale compact
IK> with programs for the spec. As soon as it appears, I'll take it right away.
This would be most interesting if the Spectrum had the ability
to easily connect a CD. And so - several emulators need this.
I still don’t understand why they haven’t done it yet. Burn the compact -
up to 40 thousand.
Good Luck...
... Contents may settle during shipment.
* Crossposted in ZX.SPECTRUM
* Crossposted in NETMAIL_FROM_ME
I greet you from the bottom of my heart, Vyacheslav!
Tuesday December 02 1997 00:34, Vyacheslav Mednonogov squeezed the keyboard, hoping that
the following words would reach Vladimir Kacev:
VM> Wait...
Hello Iliya.
02 Dec 97 19:37, Iliya Kaledin wrote to Max Romanoff:
IK> I think 1-2 pieces will probably appear on Mitka. The most interesting
IK> now seems to me to be the sale of a compact with programs for the spec. As soon as it appears
IK> I’ll take it right away.
How will appear!
Would you like to take part?
Evgeny
VK> How is this? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
VK> This is not possible, or what? Or will it not work on the original? 8-O
Well, I mean, you can’t just throw it through magic (like before); first of all
for those who do not have spec (after all, the game itself will not work under emulsions... until
they hack it :))
Warm greetings, Slava!
EM> Then it wouldn’t hurt to attach an intro and demo to it for traders -
EM> For us, for example, it’s more convenient to play it on a PC in an emulator (so as not to carry the spec with
EM> CGA).
Well, you can’t spin it - you have to play it :)
And for traders in the game itself There are as many as _three_ options for what you can play:
initial demo (waving flag), intro (loop 12-minute video) and
game demo (endless defense of the fortress). It is enough to copy the first disk
to .FDI...
By the way, the first disk itself is not protected by anything (only sectors of non-standard
length). It will be recommended to make a backup copy using track-by-track copiers on
ZX, because... there are no duplicate copies on it :(
Of course, this does not mean that it is not protected by the Law of the Russian Federation
"On Copyright" :))
With warm greetings, Slava!