Com.soft. (answer from V.M.) and about relcom.comp.speccy
ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»
From Andrew Savichev → To All 30 October 1997
Hi, All!
Hello, Vyacheslav!
> AS> Do you want to be content with demo versions, old toys and FREE software?
> Yes. Still, you are “not a real” Sinclairist (virtual :))
More like a teapot, BUT NOT A LAMER!!!...you can despise “virtuals” as much as you like,
but isn’t it more productive to treat everyone with respect? Who knows, maybe in time they will show “what they are capable of” ;-)
I, like all of us (here I won’t divide anyone by preferences), respect you
for your talent and your great work for the benefit of the Spectrum! It was closed...o'k?
>
> Key word (as MOA used to say): “we” - who is this? (RA explained everything on this topic in detail)
why do you think that RA is right and I’m wrong...I probably don’t argue “for the sake of argument” either, and behind my statements there are not only my personal thoughts...you personally are
pleased when the network, after your morning coffee, “dumps” the necessary and interesting information for which you don’t have to choke in transport and drive to "Petrogradskaya" (the Logros store is well known to me, I've been working in that area for more than 12 years),
or across the whole city to Kazakova. But still, you haven't answered the main question.
What should people who live not in Moscow, not in St. Petersburg or Kharkov do? In a word
in a small town where Spectrum is the only "light in the window"
fora creative person who does not want to vegetate in modern life (to which he is inevitably doomed by the “powers of this world”)? And we must cherish
EVERY TEAPOT, because sometimes dummies become cool hackers ;-)
>
> AS> And the author gets rid of 1) intermediaries;
>
> If all the “real” Sinclairists had access to the network...
There are a lot of networks and a lot of “networkers”... no one has accurate information... so I proposed to arrange for you census...that's what he called his nascent group
CENSUS GROUP (2All: forgive me generously for self-promotion ;-) )
>
> AS> 2) pirates.
>
> You can get rid of them only with the help of a Kalashnikov assault rifle ;(
oh Slava, you shouldn’t say that... they are more efficient than you and other authors (or rather
those to whom you entrusted your affairs on dissemination of what you created)... that's why I proposed the "volley" method... you should receive a reward for your hard work immediately, "lightning fast", so that the pirates do not have time to warm up their computer... if you like - this is a "blitzkrieg"... All spektrumists who have "more than one gyrus" understand that if it is good for the authors, then it will be good also them!
>
> Why? You probably take 1st place in terms of the volume of text produced ;)
>
You know, this is a strong exaggeration. Yes, I’m writing.a lot, but rarely...so
if there is, as it seems to me, WHAT to say...even if the majority do not agree with me,
but even in this disagreement they do mental work, and this is
my main goal ;-)...spektrumists are already an order of magnitude smarter than IBM PC users,
so let them continue to improve in the same direction, because in order
to achieve great success with small means you need a lot of intelligence :). will never happen!
>
> What kind of “this”? And by the way, how will a simple fidoshnik get there? And where
>the promised rules?
There are joint echoes of RELCOM-FIDO, there are a whole lot of them, the mechanism of such a “merger” is
unknown to me, answer those who understand this or ask the coordinators
FIDO. In this case, there is NO PROBLEM at all.
The statute will be posted here today or tomorrow, we could not post it
earlier than two days before the official RFD in relcom.talk - these are the “rules
of the game”. And as for “this” - this will be clear from the Charter.
Have a good hunt everyone! Andrey AKA m@s/CENSUS GROUP
From Vyacheslav Mednonogov → To All 31 October 1997
AS> More like a teapot, BUT NOT A LAMER!!!...
I didn’t mean either one or the other.
AS> you can despise “virtuals” as much as you like,
It’s just that this topic was discussed in the echo chamber six months ago. The point is that you shouldn’t
count on virtuals commercially (not a single case has been registered of a “virtual” sinclairist buying Spekov’s software for his
emulator ;))
AS> why do you think that RA is right and I’m wrong... I probably don’t argue “for the sake of
AS> the argument either” and my statements are not just my personal ones thoughts...
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just completely agree with RA. But maybe
you’re right.
AS> you personally are pleased when, on the grid, after morning coffee, you
AS> needful and interesting information “drops off”,
Note that nothing commercial has ever fallen on the grid (except for SPF :)
AS> But still, you did not answer the main question. What should people who live
AS> not live in Moscow, St. Petersburg or Kharkov do?
a) use the services of IFC, etc.
b) shake their traders for connection with the author
c) use broken software
AS> we must cherish EVERY TEAPOT, because sometimes cool
AS> hackers grow out of dummies ;-)
How many cool hackers are we, and for one normal Sinclairist there are already 10
tough hackers:(
From Nickolay Zabrodotsky → To All 3 November 1997
Long life and prosperity to you Vyacheslav!
VM> It’s just that this topic was discussed six months ago in the echo. The point is that
VM> should not count on virtuals in a commercial sense (not a single case was registered
VM> of a “virtual” sinclairist buying
VM> Speck software for his emulator ;))
Lies!!!!!!!!
Until I bought myself a Pentagon in September, I bought disks for emulator!!!!
(Sorry for the intrusion)...
Sincerely, Nickolay.
■Unsubscribed at 17:53.
... There will be beer and there will be everything else.
From Vyacheslav Mednonogov → To All 6 November 1997
VM>> (not a single case has been registered in which a “virtual”
VM>> sinclairist bought Speck software for his emulator ;))
NZ> Lies!!!!!!!!
NZ> Until I bought myself a Pentagon in September, I bought disks for the
NZ> emulator!!!! (Sorry for the intrusion)...
Sorry, I didn’t know :)
Warm greetings, Slava!
one case has been registered...