iS-DOS 5.0

With the permission of the moderator, I am posting the subject. For three times.

Yours truly, Vladimir Frunze AKA Hexman/BYTEX.
[Team ZX ASM] [Team Metallica] [Team Art Works]

14 Nov 97, 18:13, Vladimir Frunze wrote to All on the topic "iS-DOS 5.0":

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VF> With the permission of the moderator, I am posting a subject. In three times.

I wonder how Is-Dos 5.0 ended up in Chisinau when the latest
version 4.5 is in St. Petersburg????? 8-[]

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Pleasant connections.
Roman.

15 Nov 97, already 22:20

RA> I wonder how Is-Dos 5.0 ended up in Chisinau when in St. Petersburg
RA> the latest version is 4.5 ????? 8-[]

Sorry, 4.2.. Error.

Did anyone ask me?!! Well, to hell with it...
But in general, what is this 5.0 - is it something new or just a
Moscow number? If it’s from Moscow, then in fact it’s either 3.5 or early 4.0, I don’t really remember. Actually, it's glitchy and terrible.
It would be better if they threw a branded one, or something...

With best wishes,
Vadim

The version thrown as 5.0 is not that!!! This is v4.2 (10/11/93)

And I have version 5.0 (04/24/94), it has an is-dos disk formatter, a RAM copier and something else.
If, well, you really need a lot of things, you can throw it in the echo!? 300 kb !!!

2Yudin did you receive isdos on the fdi?

All the best. /──────────────────────\ [ Fantasy World - Rulez ]
Sincerely, │ Wanderer 'Sagacious' │ [ Getting up early - Must Die]
─────────────────── ────\──────────────────────/ [ Station 106.8 - Rulez ]
... Studying too hard one doctrine at the expense of others narrows one's horizons ...

Why is she the last one? In Taganrog, for example, we have had 5.0 for _more than a year_
! They've even forgotten about her. That's it.

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Now you can turn off the computer's power...

And this, IMHO, is what she is. I have one like this at home too. Who and why it was renamed is unclear to me.

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

So what kind of subject is this? 8-O
This is 4.2!!!
And I have a real one!!!
If there are people willing, and Mr. Moderator doesn’t mind, then quit.

Bye, Vladimir :)

VS> And I have version 5.0 (04/24/94), it has an is-dos
VS> disk formatter, a RAM copier and something else there.
VS> If, well, many people really need it, you can throw it in the echo!? 300 kb !!!

So, if you don’t throw it in the echo, then soap me plz...
I really love and respect this wealth...

With respect, Nickolay Zabrodotsky AKA ProfeSSor F0lken
■Unsubscribed at 01:48.
... There will be beer and there will be everything else.

VY> Did anyone ask me?!! Well, to hell with it...

So version 4.2, from 1994, I thought it was already out of sale..

VY> But in general, what is this 5.0 - is it something new or
VY> just a Moscow number? If it’s Moscow, then in fact it’s either
VY> 3.5, or early 4.0, I don’t really remember. Actually, glyukalovo
VY> is terrible. It would be better if they threw a branded one, or something...

4.2, people asked for an “IS-DOS disk image in FDI”, so I threw it. What, it was possible
to throw 5th? I have a branded installer..

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

VS>> is-dos disks, RAM-copier and something else there. If, well
VS>> a lot of people really need it, you can throw it into the echo!? 300 kb !!!

NZ> So, if you don’t throw it in the echo, then plz give me some soap...
NZ> I really love and respect this wealth...

And I too plz...

Konstantin

... UI120:NAFICJMAGATBIF^DIBFJFHHNJFUBLIMEQBBUVFGCIMG

EM> Branded formatter, or what? The one that I saw is a remade
EM> Doctor.

So it is a proprietary formatter. And before there was another one with a limited number of
formattings.

Regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

VK> Why is it the last one?

Because Iskrasoft hasn’t released anything else yet...

VK> We have, for example, 5.0 in Taganrog for _more
VK> a year_! They've even forgotten about it.

Let me go into the debugger and replace 4.5 with 6.0 or 9.9 - there will be an even
newer version...

VK> That's it.

That's it.

Happy connections.
Roman.

20 Nov 97, already 00:03

────────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────── ─────────────────────
In ancient times (19 November 97), Ser Konstantin wrote on a scroll Nickolay
Zabrodotsky,
Bequeathing "iS-DOS 5.0", and today (21 November 97) I decided intervene:
────────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────── ─────────────────────

Once on 21 Nov 97 at 10:48, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote to All...

...and here it’s skipped...
TV> by the way, does anyone by any chance have a defragmenter for is-dos???
Creepy brakes!
It’s faster to format a new disk and copy everything you need onto it.

It is quite possible that someone has already written, I started writing, but did not finish,
since there is no real spectrum and it is lazy, the defragmenter needs a RAM disk
larger, and a high-speed loader with a block saver!
A loader for defragmented files already exists, but it is demanding ROM TR-dos.

2All Yes, and is it needed - a defragmenter?

Hello Vadim!

19 Hbr 97 03:28, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Kacev:
...and here it’s a mess...
VY> The only IS-DOS that bore the number 5.0 is one of the early
VY> versions of the “four”, renumbered by our partners from “Slot” to
VY> 5th.
So it is visible and there, but the fact is that they differ not only in names.
Five, for example, differs for the better. There is less noise on the disk, again the formatter is built-in. So it’s logical to consider it a more recent version.

Bye, Vladimir :)

... ...Hey, if you’re in Taganrog, come in!...

Hello Roman!

20 Hbr 97 00:03, Roman Alexandrov wrote to Vladimir Kacev:

RA> Let me go into the debugger and replace 4.5 with 6.0 or 9.9 - there will be
RA> an even newer version...
That's understandable. But will you also replace the contents? There is a difference too.
And for the better.
RA> Like this.
“At least call it a pot, just don’t put it in the oven” (c)
VK>> Like this.

Bye , Vladimir :)

TV>> is-dosa???

There has been an endless formatter and defragmenter for a long time, but it’s easier to make a new
disk and copy everything back to it file by file than to use such a slow
defragmenter - it’s 3 times faster.

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

VY>> either 3.5, or early 4.0, I don’t really remember. Actually
VY>> it’s glitchy and scary. It would be better if they threw a branded one, or something...

VF> 4.2, people asked for an “IS-DOS disk image in FDI”, so I threw it. What,
VF> could you throw 5th? I have a branded installer..

I DON’T BELIEVE IT!!! (C) Stanislavsky K.S. :-) I remind you once again that
there is no 5th version of IS-DOS in nature! The version that
was sold in Moscow by Slot under © 5.0 is actually OLDER than
the latest branded version, which is sold under © 4.5!!!

With best wishes,
Vadim

suddenly, Tuesday November 18 1997 07:00
and Vladimir Kacev writes to Vladimir Frunze the following:

VK> So what kind of subject is this? 8-O
VK> This is 4.2!!!
VK> And I have a real one!!!
VK> If there are people who want it, and Mr. Moderator doesn’t mind, then quit.

Where did you get it, if it’s not a secret? And in general, where could SUBJ come from, if
it didn’t exist in nature, please explain to me, pls, the dull one, why
everyone has it, but I don’t have it at Iskrasoft and never have?
It’s even interesting to see for yourself :-)

With best wishes,
Vadim

EM>> remade Doctor.

AL> So it is a proprietary formatter.
What?!! Is the proprietary IS-DOS formatter a remade Doctor? Yes, this is
just nonsense, excuse the harshness.
As an official involved in the release of the infinite formatter
and in general in the removal of protection from the IS-DOS system, I declare:
The first OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE COMPANY endless formatter, supplied
on system floppy disks IS-DOS version 2.0, was created in my presence
Misha Kondratiev by hacking and editing (it seems MONS)
the original formatter with MASTER DISK IS-DOS. After that, IS-DOS 2.0 disks were sold by me by agreement with the Iskrasoft company for some time on the market in Avtovo, and by the time I went to work at Iskrasoft as the head of the IS-DOS Department, disks with this formatter began to be sold in the company.
Further support and improvement of the formatter, as well as
gradual removal "binding" of all main programs to the format number was
carried out by the chief system programmer of the Department - Alexey Leontiev.

AL> And before there was a limited
AL> number of formattings.

Yes, in versions 1.xx and early 2.0 there was a limit on the number
boot disks that could be created with one copy of the system.

With best regardsbest wishes,
Vadim

─────────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────── ────────────────────
In ancient times (21 November 97), Ser Vladimir wrote on a scroll Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich,
Bequeathing "iS-DOS 5.0", and today (23 November 97) I decided intervene:
────────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────── ─────────────────────

TV>> by the way, does anyone by any chance have a defragmenter for IS-DOS???

VK> Terrible slowdowns!
VK> It’s faster to format a new disk and copy everything you need onto it.

If you don’t mind throwing it to me, I’d like to look at it, and maybe speed it up!

VK> This is understandable. But will you also replace the contents? There is also a difference.
VK> And for the better.

There is also a difference between a branded update and kitchen creativity.

Good Luck...

... FILES=1 BUFFERS=0 FCBS=SAYWHAT BREAK=GIMME

Once on November 23, 97 at 03:27, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Kacev...

VY> Where did you get it, if it’s not a secret?
Yes, where? At the market, of course!
VY> And in general, where could SUBJ,
VY> come from if it didn’t exist in nature, please explain to me, pls, who don’t understand why
VY> everyone has it, but I don’t have it at Iskrasoft and never have?
Now I’m also interested!
VY> It’s even interesting to see for myself :-)
I can tell us what it looks like.
It means this:
When loading, a black window
appears against the background of the white Spectrum screen
with a scroll running from bottom to top. Brisk music plays. Against the background of the window there is an inscription in capital letters: IS-DOS the best! Slot Co.Ltd. telephones.......
scroll content:

__________________________
! IS-DOS !
! new version 5.0 !
! 04/24/94. !
! ________________________!

Finally, the long-awaited version of IS-DOS with a formatting program has been released....
........
Then the scroll lists new features and innovations. At the bottom right
to the left another scroll runs:
Slot Co.Ltd. is official disributor IS-DOS.
Then the inscription ...this is IS-DOS music by Mickael Helloween....
then it is offeredpress SS+a, after which a menu falls out, where again IS-DOS v.5.0 is written and in the “information” item you can read that
this is an installer for the IS-DOS v.5.0 system. (!!!) by M.H., K.S.& Slot Co.Ltd.

Fuhhh! I'm already tired of writing!
Well, I didn't come up with this myself!
Yes, probably many people have this version.
And I bought it at least a year and a half or two ago.

AI> There has long been an endless formatter and defragmenter, but it’s just easier to make
AI> a new disk and copy everything back to it file by file, than to use such a
AI> slow defragmenter - it turns out 3 times faster.

By the way, regarding the defragmenter - they say it’s good to use it on a
megabyte machine - the entire disk is in memory - it has a defragmenter. Y?

With all kinds of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... Those who have no illusions are especially insatiable.

We in St. Petersburg usually look at the creation date of edit+.com
In version isdos 4.5 this file has the date 06/05/96.
Give the creation date of your file edit+.com
And then we will see whether your version is better or worse.
By the way. Does your version have a calendar that, when launched,
displays two months on the screen in a standard calendar view
and a note for a given day.
And do you have a clock that runs correctly?
Maybe there is something else interesting in your version.

Goodbye, Boris.

-+- iS-EDIT 6.06+

RA> I wonder how Is-Dos 5.0 ended up in Chisinau when in St. Petersburg
RA> the latest version is 4.5 ????? 8-[]

Sun 23 Nov 1997 03:24, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Frunze:

VY> I DON’T BELIEVE!!! (C) Stanislavsky K.S. :-) Once again
VY> I remind you that no 5th version of IS-DOS exists in nature
VY>! The version that was sold in Moscow by Slot under
VY> © 5.0 is actually OLDER than the latest branded
VY> version, which is sold under © 4.5!!!

I officially declare to everyone that version numbers older than 4.5 in Moscow were given to versions
on the radio market in Mitino. Two options:

- one guy is fooling everyone (still) that the original is a virus ;) and
he has the latest ;) At the same time, he very coolly says that it cannot be hacked
(despite the book that was published) and is very difficult to break (an idiot, despite his 49
years). In this version, only the panel palette has been changed. He multiplied and changed version numbers, hiding behind I-Soft. The guy's name is Vladimir (he walks around the market with
a radio station and constantly complains about how hard it was for him to break the palette on the subject
and what a hard life he has, that he has to constantly "break" iS-DOS himself).
Difference: prices are 2-3 times higher than in SLOT.

- assigned a number to my kit (not version - I just _very optimized_ and
rewrote to a friend) - there is a complete set, including: a legitimate full formatter +
graphic printing + a useless optimizer, which SLOT sold ondifferent
disks. Everything, of course, on one floppy disk. The basic
disc-kit was very popular and was widely distributed.

The difference between the second option is the file describing the “hot” control keys from my
origin. If they sold it on the market, it was 2 times cheaper (I didn’t have anything from this and don’t want to have anything).

Personally, observing copyright, I didn’t assign any numbers to versions!!!
Numbers were assigned arbitrarily by sellers in Mitino. Specify the sources for obtaining the subject.

The layout of the base disk is a private matter for any _legitimate_ user. My basic disk has absolutely everything you need for work (except for free
space).

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

──────────────────────────────────── ─────────────────────── ────────────────────
In ancient times (23 November 97), Ser Alexey wrote on a scroll Vitaly Samoylov,
Bequeathing "iS-DOS 5.0", and today (24 November 97) I decided intervene:
──────────── ────────────────────────── ────────────────────────── ───────────────

VY> I DON’T BELIEVE!!! (C) Stanislavsky K.S. :-) I remind you once again that
VY> no 5th version of IS-DOS exists in nature! The version that
VY> was sold in Moscow by Slot under © 5.0 is actually OLDER than
VY> the latest branded version, which is sold under © 4.5!!!

Can you tell us in more detail why it is better than the others, what’s new?

VY> Best wishes,
VY> Vadim

TV>>> by the way, does anyone by chance have a defragmenter for is-DOS???
VK>> Terrible brakes!
VK>> It’s faster to format a new disk and copy everything you need onto it.

Well, in vain. There is a sticker on the disk, it seems, with the inscription “GOLD”, on another
sticker (where they sign) the seal of the Slot and the number, in the envelope there was a “postcard” (cardboard) with an advertisement/I don’t remember what else about the subject and the Slot..

VY> I remind you once again that no 5th version of IS-DOS exists in nature
VY>! The version that was sold in Moscow by Slot under © 5.0
VY> is actually OLDER than the latest branded version, which
VY> is sold under © 4.5!!!

Well, I don’t know how old it is, but it is much better than 4.2, faster and
more convenient. In my opinion, even the editors are different..

VY>> in the 5th.
VK> So it is visible and there, but the fact is that they differ not only
VK> in names. Five, for example, differs for the better. On disk
VK> there is less rustling, again the formatter is built-in. So it’s logical to consider
VK> its more recent version.

What does it mean “there’s less rustling on the disk...” I don’t understand how this is? And what does
"built-in formatter" mean? Where is built-in?
And in general, there is a good way to determine the newness of the system, regardless of
the left numbers - look at the creation date of the main files (just not
IS_DOS.SYS), but some frequently changed utilities, for example to_msdos.com or
filecopy.com and compare which system is implemented later.
IMHO some lamer will be smart enough to get into the text file of the start
menu and transfer 2.0, 3.0, etc. to 5.0, 6.0, 21.0, etc., but for sure no one can change the dates of most fileswill think of it.

Best wishes,
Vadim

The only WORKING program on this topic is arzt+.com, it is on any
IS-DOS basic disk, starting with version 3.0 (or 3.5). But it does not defragment
the disk, but simply fills “holes” in disk space, moving free
blocks to the end.
If we are talking about a program unfinished by Sasha Demidov at one time called speedisk.com (or speed.com I don’t remember what it was called), then it
is in the form in which was abandoned after Sasha left the Department
INWORKABLE and can cause the loss of information on your disks.
In short, whoever dares to run this program is to blame...
Although, maybe nothing will happen, we also didn’t notice right away and
we were able to sell five floppy disks before this program was taken off
from sale :-(
In general, writing a disk defragmenter is a problematic thing, especially for
working with large devices, e.g.with a screw (IMHO, but for floppy disks it is not needed at all) - the main problem is the lack of memory and a very large waste of machine time. It is unlikely that anyone will want to defragment the disk for
30-40 minutes; indeed, it is easier to rewrite it.

With best wishes,
Vadim

> TV> by the way, does anyone happen to have a defragmenter for IS-DOS???
> Terrible slowdowns!
what is a better way out?
> It’s faster to format a new disk and copy everything you need onto it.
it won’t work, if you have it, then please change it to 2:4621/2.777
>
> Bye, Vladimir :)
Eugene AKA Point777 of CrazyBrothers/Phantasy

VY> In general, writing a disk defragmenter is a problematic thing,
VY> especially for working with large devices, for example with a screw (IMHO a
VY> for floppy disks it not needed at all) - the main problem is

For disks you can simply do it, either with a large RAM DISK, or on
a 2nd flop. No problem. Starting from simply copying a file.

VY> lack of memory and a very large waste of machine time. It is unlikely that anyone
VY> will want to defragment the disk for 30-40 minutes, indeed,
VY> is easier to rewrite.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
;)

Good Luck...

... I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control!

VK> But where? At the market, of course!

/skip/

VK> I can tell you what it looks like.
VK> So:
VK> When loading, a black
VK> window appears against the background of the white Spectrum screen with a scroll running from bottom to top. Brisk music plays. Against the background of the window
VK> there is an inscription in large letters: IS-DOS the best! Slot Co.Ltd.
VK> phones........ scroll content:

VK> __________________________
VK> ! IS-DOS !
VK> ! new version 5.0 !
VK> ! 04/24/94. !
VK> ! ________________________!

/skip/

VK> Yes, probably many people have this version.
VK> And I bought it at least a year and a half or two ago.

I’m throwing this very version into the echo, I bought it at SLOT’s office !

Once on 24 Nov 97 at 08:45, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Kacev...
VY> What does it mean “there is less rustling on the disk...” I don’t understand how this is?
When entering and exiting the directory, it does not re-read directory.
When renaming files, rename does not load each time. Well, in other
cases the disk does not fit _extra_ times.
VY> And what
VY> does “built-in formatter” mean, where is built-in?
In the “work with disk” menu. And before that, either there was a whole disk, with only one
formatter(!), or they formatted it from Tp-Dos with the one that you load and go to drink
tea, sleep or something else.
VY> And in general, there is a good way to determine the novelty of the system, regardless
VY> of the left numbers - look at the creation date of the main files
The files, however, are all 1994
But _SLOT_ himself wrote that the fifth - how can you not believe it?

But in my opinion this is not connected in any way. Who said that a file with a later date is _better_ than an older one?

And this is not my version, but SLOTa!!! :))

VK>> available. And for the better.
MR>
MR> there is also a difference between a branded update and kitchen creativity.

Let the shoemaker do it, as long as it works well!

“Do you need checkers, or should you go?” (c)

Once on 24 Nov 97 at 08:53, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vitaly Samoylov...
...and here it’s skipped...
VY> If we are talking about a program unfinished at one time by Sasha Demidov
VY> called speedisk.com (or speed.com I don’t remember what it
VY> was called), then it is in the form in which it was left after Sasha's departure
VY> from the Department is NOT WORKABLE and may cause the loss
VY> of information on your disks. In short, whoever dares
VY> to launch this program is to blame...
Here is a help to this program: (just torn out)

============[ and here I inserted SPEEDHL.$C ]============

╔═════════════ ═════════════════════════╗
║ IskraSOFT corp., St. Petersburg, Russia ║
║ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ║
║ @ 1994 ║
╚══════════════════ ════════════════════ў
Program speedisk.com - intended
to change file structure of the device
(faster access to files (all files
are located on the device in sequential
pieces, all free pieces are collected at the end of the device
).
The program is executed in three stages:
- information about the device is collected;
- device blocks are rearranged;
- the device is reassembled.

After starting the program, appears menu:
╔═════════════════ ═════════════════════╗
║ Device - ║
║ compression method ║
║ with structure preservation ║
║ without structure preservation ║
╚══════════════════ ════════════════════ў
1 - with preservation of the structure
all files on the device remain in the same
form in which they were, i.e. Continuous
files are converted to continuous, segmented
to segmented.
2 - without saving the structure
all files on the device are converted
to continuous.

During the process of rearranging blocks, the following is indicated:
- how many blocks need to be processed;
- how many blocks have been transferred.

Features of the program:
- device being processedprogram,
must be assigned as system
- if the device has bad blocks
(with the bad extension), the program does not work
and displays the error "NO file name with
extension bad";
- the program works with devices up to
40,000 blocks;
- if the computer crashes during operation
the device gets damaged, so it is not recommended
to run the program on faulty devices and
poor technology;
- if the boot disk is compressed, then after
compression it remains bootable;
- the program can run for quite
a long time (information is collected block by block).

============[ but this is the end of SPEEDHL.$C ]============

VY> Hardly anyone
VY> wants to defragment the disk for 30-40 minutes,
That’s exactly how long it worked, but after that everything was fine.
VY> indeed,
VY> it’s easier to rewrite.
Uh-huh.

Once on November 25, 97 at 16:01, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote to All...
...and here it’s skipped...
TV> and more, if there is one, please post it!
TV> frame drive drivers for Pentagon 512!
Only pros, scorpio and atm.

VY> The only WORKING program on this topic is arzt+.com, it is on
VY> any
VY> basic IS-DOS disk, starting with version 3.0 (or 3.5). But it does not
VY> defragment the disk, but simply fills the “holes” in the disk
VY> space, moving free
VY> blocks to the end.

By the way, yes, Khelovinovsky (from Slot) SpeedDisk usually hangs at the end
of the operation, with the data on the disk completely nailed.

Regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

VF> Well, in vain. There is a sticker on the disk, it seems, with the inscription “GOLD”, on the other
VF> sticker (where they sign) the seal of the Slot and the number, in the envelope there was
VF> a “postcard” (cardboard) with an advertisement / I don’t remember what else about the subject and
VF>. Slot..

It’s interesting to watch how you argue with the _creators_ of this
product, proving that they know nothing about it ;))))

VF> Well, I don’t know how old it is, but it’s much better than 4.2, faster
VF> and more convenient. In my opinion, even the editors are different..

Think about it.

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 002: Operator fell asleep while waiting.

ak> In Khmelnytsky, I installed install 5.0 a year ago.

Probably, after all, is-dos was not born in our city, but in yours...

Good Luck...

... Viking Philoharmonic Orchestra: World's largest horn section!

VK> So this means:
VK> When loading, against the background of the white Spectrum screen, a black
VK> window appears with a scroll running from bottom to top. Brisk music plays. Against the background of the window
VK> there is an inscription in large letters: IS-DOS the best! Slot Co.Ltd.
VK> phones........ scroll content:

suddenly, Sunday November 23, 1997 21:03
and Igor Gruzdev writes to Alexey Ivanov the following:

IG> By the way, regarding the defragmenter - they say it’s good to use it on
IG> a megabyte machine - the entire disk is in memory - there’s a defragmenter on it. Y?

No, it’s turning out great, huh? In order to speed up defragmentation, first
rewrite the entire disk onto an electronic one, then run the defragmenter, then
rewrite it back - IMHO, even taking into account the track copier type a??a.com
during this time you can just as easily do without a defragmenter -
copying to another disk or to the same RAM. And there will be fewer operations, and the files
will be more intact, that’s for sure.

With best wishes,
Vadim

suddenly, Sunday November 23, 1997 20:25
and Boris Sokol writes to Vladimir Kacev the following:

BS> And do you have a clock that goes correctly.

In my opinion, the only clock that can go correctly on Speck is a
hardware clock with a battery (someone seems to be planning to make one, maybe
even it was Scorpion). I haven't come across any software for them yet.

With best wishes,
Vadim

VS> Can you go into more detail about why it is better than the rest, what’s new?

Here is an excerpt from my article published in one of the issues of ZX NEWS:

─── Here begins the file ZXNEWS.TXT ───

Eliseev V. A.
IskraSoft, IS-DOS Department

News in the world IS-DOS.
══════════════════════
(article for the ZX News newspaper)
7/24/1997

Hello, dear readers!
B In today's issue of the newspaper we will introduce you to some new programs written for the IS-DOS system, and also tell you a little about further prospects for its development.

To begin with, we would like to inform you that the newest version of the IS-DOS system today is the branded versions IS-DOS 4.5 Classic and IS-DOS 4.5 Chic
manufactured in the Software Department of the company
IskraSoft (St. Petersburg). In this version, a number of improvements were made to the system, which made it possible to expand its functionality compared to earlier versions, some programs were improved and new ones were added. Today we will tell you about these innovations.

The development of the IDE hard drive controller, carried out jointly with the Nemo company (St. Petersburg), revealed some inconveniences associated with the operation of the system with large disk devices. In particular, someProblems in older versions of the system were caused by large directories (16 blocks in size), therefore, in the new version, appropriate changes were made to the system core, as a result of which working with such directories became possible. This allows you to store up to 128
files or subdirectories in one directory.

Working with large directories has caused another serious, although
not noticeable at first glance, problem, namely: after deleting a large number of
files from the directory, the directory itself remains
the same size as it was, which causes unnecessary waste disk
space. Let's say that the directory contained 120 files (directory size
120/8=15 blocks), 90 of them were deleted, therefore, to store the remaining 30 files, a directory with a size of 4 blocks, not 15, would be sufficient.
New utility kit-kat.com (not to be confused with
Kitekat) allows you to “trim” unnecessary
part of the directory, freeing up this
“lost” disk space.

In addition, the arsenal of system utilities
IS-DOS 4.5has been replenished with two more useful programs - netto.com and
eradicat.com.
Program netto.com analyzes the current (currently open in the current panel) directory and prints the number of subdirectories in it, the total number of files and the total size of it all in blocks.
Program eradicat.com allows
correctly (unlike the utility
remote.com) delete the directory along with
all its contents - both files and and
subdirectories.

The program for printing texts has undergone major changes. The most important innovation is the ability to work with prn files, including those prepared on other computers.
What is a prn file? This is a file that results from redirecting codes arriving at the printer to a disk drive and contains all the codes that must be sent to the printer when printing - symbols, control codes, graphics, etc. This improvement to the system opens up new, truly inexhaustible possibilities for collaboration between the ZX Spectrum and the Spectrum. professional computers.
Now it has become possible on any computer (including IBM) to prepare
material for printing (picture, text using graphic fonts, typographical original layout, etc.), merge
it into a prn file, using the driver for
your printer, and print it later
on the ZX Spectrum WITHOUT LOSS QUALITY!

True, this system required some
changes in the IS-DOS print driver standard, so the version4.5 comes with new drivers, and drivers from older versions will not work in the new system.

In addition, the new system has significantly expanded the built-in USER menu.
Thanks to the serious work done by
Alexander Wolf, it almost completely replicates the Norton
Commander shell menu. In addition to these changes we have described, there are a number of innovations in the system, which we cannot talk about here due to the limited size of the article, so we refer you to the text files whatsnew.txt, update.txt and news*.txt, located in the directory
\ADVERTISING\ of the system disk of the new version of
IS-DOS. In these files, which can
also be seen by selecting the READ ME option in
the IS_DOS 4.5 boot menu, you will see
more complete information about changes in
the system.

Now let's move on to the description of new
programs for IS-DOS:
=====
skipped...
=====

3. PC KEYBOARD - driver for the IBM PC XT keyboard controller from Nemo (compatible with Profi) with the correct placement of large and small Russian letters b, zh, x, yu, e, ъ. This is made possible thanks to
the new tt_x+.key driver, which allows
to use the CS+SS key combination as
the third SHIFT. PC keyboard controller
Profi/Nemo transcodes scan codesPC keys into ZX keyboard codes and their combinations. Thus, small letters from the above list are defined as
combinations SS+?, and large letters - as CS+SS+?
with SS being inserted automatically by the controller. Thus, it is possible to place almost all “non-standard”
letters on the keys on which they
are depicted and provide additional
convenience when typing texts. The new driver, together with a code table called x+kay.tab, is included in the basic package of IS-DOS 4.5.

=========
skipped...
==========

We remind you of our address:
═════════════════════

for letters 190000, St. Petersburg,
and orders from the Main Post Office, on demand
Chapurina L.V.

telephone (812) 260-70-43 (evening)
ask Vadim

─── And here ZXNEWS.TXT ends ───

With best regards best wishes,
Vadim

VY>> is available on any basic IS-DOS disk starting from version 3.0 (or
VY>> 3.5). But it does not defragment the disk, but simply fills the “holes”
VY>> in the disk space, moving free blocks to the end.

AL> By the way, yes, Helovinovsky (from Slot) SpeedDisk usually hangs at
AL> the end of the operation, with the data completely jammed on the disk.
Exactly. As I remember, he processed the entire disk, but glitched when adjusting
system areas.

>>> Chulkov A.V. WWW: http://www.chat.ru/~avcc UIN: 3019547 <<<

/skip/

VY> In general, writing a disk defragmenter is problematic,
VY> especially for working with large devices, for example with a screw (IMHO and
VY> it is not needed at all for floppy disks) - the main problem is
VY> lack of memory and a very large waste of computer time. It is unlikely that anyone
VY> will want to defragment the disk for 30-40 minutes; indeed,
VY> is easier to rewrite.

There are three types of defragmentation:

1. Converting fragmented files into unfragmented ones.
2. Optimizing empty space.
3. Both and other.

Naturally the first one is the fastest, you can limit yourself to it, but somewhere around once
a month - the third method!
Now in practice: you need your own, very fast loader for any sectors
(128,256,512,1024), which in principle already exists, but There may be incompatibilities
with different versions of trdos. A certain amount of RAM, the more,
the better!
Using an intelligent analyzer for a defragmenter (This is for the third type)! Which is more difficult, but possible!
Then the time will be limited by the speed of writing to the disk. But
reliability will decrease! That is, dependence on power failures, the drive controller.

P.S. The third type is for speed, since the 1st then the 2nd is slower than
immediately together!

VY> Best wishes,
VY>Vadim

VF>> faster and more convenient. In my opinion, even the editors are different..

MR> Think about it.

But THERE IS!!! 8) I don’t know whose and where, but it exists, it works, and it works well!

Yours truly, Vladimir Frunze AKA Hexman/BYTEX.
[Team ZX ASM] [Team Metallica] [Team Art Works]

suddenly, Tuesday November 25, 1997 16:01
and Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich writes the following to All:

TV> well, I have a floppy disk - a system one,
TV> almost all full, but there is room for something else to be added there
TV> to add (for example, a terminal for chaos) what I need for this is a whole
TV> format the disk again, transfer everything, etc.???

In this case, the classic solution is to use the arzt+.com utility from any
basic disk (it seems starting from 4.0) SQUEESE option. It quite quickly
gathers all the free areas on the disk into one large area at the end.
And the defragmenter has absolutely nothing to do with it.

With best wishes,
Vadim

VY>> 5.0 is actually OLDER than the latest proprietary version,
VY>> which is sold under © 4.5!!!

VF> Well, I don’t know how old it is, but it is much better than 4.2,
VF> faster and more convenient. In my opinion, even the editors are different there..

^^^^^^^^ - but how can it be faster?

And 4.2 is also not ours... In general, it seems, 3.0 according to the numbering of the Slot.
HERE IS THE LIST OF BRAND NUMBERS:

1.0
1.1
1.5
2.0
3.0
3.5
4.0
4.5

ALL! Approximate correspondence to the “Slot” numbering: 4.2 = 3.0; 5.0 = 3.5
Latest version (4.5 according to branded numbering) The slot was never
sold at all (didn’t have time before it collapsed).
So let’s not confuse ours with not ours, branded with purchased
anywhere (i.e. at a flea market). According to my information, now in Mitino there is not a SINGLE person officially selling IS-DOS. So there’s nothing to talk about here!

And in general, IMHO it’s time to stop “measuring your pussies”, like “but my
IS-DOS is better.” There is a branded registered product and there is a lefty one, which is sold by pirates, and even after delving into it (I’m not talking about Slot,
but about those “craftsmen” selling on the market).
PS: This is not an attack, but a specific proposal.

With best wishes,
Vadim

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich to All Tue Nov 25, 1997 at 16:50...

>> it turns out 3 times faster. By the way, regarding the defragmenter - it
>> is good, they say, to use it on a megabyte machine - the entire disk is in memory -
>> there is a defragmenter on it. Y?
TV> uh-huh, just please throw in the drivers for the Pentagon 512, oh, I got all of you
TV>, but what can I do, it’s nice, I’m thinking of using a frame drive on 512 k
TV> :))) and a defragmenter, if possible, but why with a whole is-dos I don’t
TV> I don’t understand :-/

But no. I have. But here's what there is (from Misha Kondratyev, in a distributed
archive with compiled drivers):
I hope it won't be difficult to compile into what you need (for those who understand this). I don't. ;(

──────────────────────────bite─here──────(file: Ramd128_.M80)─────────────
.z80
.ideal
title ZX-128 RamDisk Driver

.comment `
Electronic disk driver for Zx Spectrum 128
(c) 1997 Michael Kondratyev `

; macro definitions (c) Moa

lofinit macro
.num defl 0
endm

loff macro ?l, ?o
.addr&?l& defl $ ?o
endm

.dw macro ?a
loff %.num, <- 1>
.num defl .num + 1
dw ?a
endm

.c macro ?a
loff %.num, <>
.num defl .num + 1
?a
endm

.0dwmacro ?o
dw .addr&?o&
endm

ltable macro
if .num eq 0
exitm
endif
dw 0ffffh
.numct defl 0
rept .num
.0dw %.numct
.numct defl .numct + 1
endm
endm

lofinit

dw 0
.dw Blk_Read
.dw Blk_Write
.dw Blk_Init
db 0xE0
db 4
dw 0
db 0
dw 0
db 0

Pages: db 0x51,0x53,0x54,0x56,0x57 ; size=320

Blk_Read: xor a
jr _common

Blk_Write: ld a, 0xEB

_common:
.c< ld (_xchg_1), a >
.c< ld (_xchg_2), a >
ld a, h
add a, b
jr c, too_high
add a, 40h
jr nz, too_high
dec a
add a, l
too_high: ld a, 7
ret c
jr bot

top: ld a, e
or 0xC0
push af
neg
ld c, b
cp b
jr nc, _enough
ld c, a
_enough: ld a, b
sub c
ld b, 0
ex de, hl
push hl
add hl, bc
ex (sp), hl
add hl, hl
add hl, hl
ld l, h
ld h, b
ld b, a
push bc
.c< ld bc, Pages >
add hl, bc
pop bc
ld a, (hl)
pop hl
ex (sp), hl
push bc
ld b, c
ld c, 0
ld l, c
di
out (0xFD), a
_xchg_1: ex de, hl
ldir
_xchg_2: ex de, hl
ld a, 0x50
out (0xFD), a
ei
ex de, hl
pop bc
pop de
bot: inc b
djnz top
Blk_Init: xor a
ret

ltable

end
──────────────────────────bite─here──────(file: Ramd128_.M80)─────────────

────────── ────────────────bite─here──────(file: Ramdsco_.M80)─────────────
.z80
.ideal
title ZS-256 RamDisk Driver

.comment `
Electronic disk driver for Scorpion ZS-256
(c) 1997 Michael Kondratyev

Some notes:
- recommended sizes for an electronic disk:
384 - only memory above 128k is used except for that reserved by the monitor
704 - + the so-called 80k buffer
832 - all possible memory

- will be work, of course, only in the is-dos/classic`

version; macro definitions (c) Moa

lofinit macro
.num defl 0
endm

loff macro ?l, ?o
.addr&?l& defl $ ?o
endm

.dw macro ?a
loff %.num, <- 1>
.num defl .num + 1
dw ?a
endm

.c macro ?a
loff %.num, <>
.num defl .num + 1
?a
endm

.0dw macro ?o
dw .addr&?o&
endm

ltable macro
if .num eq 0
exitm
endif
dw 0ffffh
.numct defl 0
rept .num
.0dw %.numct
.numct defl .numct + 1
endm
endm

lofinit

dw 0
.dw Blk_Read
.dw Blk_Write
.dw Blk_Init
db 0xE0
db 4
dw 0
db 0
dw 0
db 0

Pages: db 0x52.0x53.0x54.0x55.0x56.0x57 ; size=384
db 0x41.0x43.0x44.0x46.0x47 ; size=704
db 0x51 ; size=768
db0x50 ; size=832

Blk_Read: xor a
jr _common

Blk_Write: ld a, 0xEB

_common:
.c< ld (_xchg_1), a >
.c< ld (_xchg_2), a >
ld a, h
add a, b
jr c, too_high
add a, 40h
jr nz, too_high
dec a
add a, l
too_high: ld a, 7
ret c
jr bot

top: ld a, e
or 0xC0
push af
neg
ld c, b
cp b
jr nc, _enough
ld c, a
_enough: ld a, b
sub c
ld b, 0
ex de, hl
push hl
add hl, bc
ex (sp), hl
add hl, hl
add hl, hl
ld l, h
ld h, b
ld b, a
push bc
.c< ld bc, Pages >
add hl, bc
pop bc
ld a, (hl)
or 0x10
ex af, af'
ld a, (hl)
and 0x10
pop hl
ex (sp), hl
push bc
ld b, c
ld c, 0
ld l, c
di
out (0xFD), a
ex af, af'
out (0xFD), a
_xchg_1: ex de, hl
ldir
_xchg_2: ex de, hl
xor a
out (0xFD), a
ld a, 0x50
out (0xFD), a
ei
ex de, hl
pop bc
pop de
bot: inc b
djnz top
Blk_Init: xor a
ret

ltable

end
──────────────────────────кусать─здесь──────(file: Ramdsco_.M80)─────────────

well, I told you it was shit :)))

(c) green

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

VF> I’m not arguing, but saying that I have it (5.0).

looks like a dispute.

VF> But IT IS!!! 8) I don’t know whose and where it came from, but it exists, it works, and it works well
VF> it works!

It seems like everyone has already said that Slot version 5 is ancient
Iskrasoft, with kitchen-pantry creativity.

Good Luck...

... Best file compression around: 'DEL .' = 100% compression

VY>> (IMHO and for floppy disks it is not needed at all) - the main problem
VY>> is in

MR> For disks you can simply do it, either with a large RAM DISK, or on a
MR> 2nd flop. No problem. Starting from simply copying a file.

So that’s what we’re talking about. Write a bat file... :-)

Best wishes,
Vadim

That's it... ;-) It's high time to separate our Iskrasoft product from all kinds of market "crafts". And who would know about Slot's discs if not me, if I myself brought the originals to them in Moscow? So, there is nothing to prove
that the Moscow IS-DOS, released a year and a half ago, is newer than the branded one,
released when there was no trace of any Slot.

With best wishes,
Vadim

MR> Probably, after all, is-dos was not born in our city, but in yours...

Or maybe it was some other IS-DOS? ;-)))

Best wishes,
Vadim

VS> /skip/

VK>> On the background of the window there is an inscription in large letters: IS-DOS the best! Slot
VK>> Co.Ltd. telephones........scroll content:

VK>> __________________________
VK>> ! IS-DOS !
VK>> ! new version 5.0 !
VK>> ! 04/24/94. !
VK>> ! ________________________!
^^^^^^^^^

Yes, in 1994 it was probably the newest version... ;-)

Best wishes,
Vadim

VK> But in my opinion this is not connected in any way. Who said that a file with a later
VK> date is _better_ than an older one?

Better, its errors are corrected. ;-)

Best wishes,
Vadim

suddenly, Wednesday November 26, 1997 01:24
and Vladimir Kacev writes to Vadim Yeliseyev the following:

VK> Good afternoon (morning, evening, night), Vadim!

VK> Once on 24 Nov 97 at 08:45, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Kacev...
VY>> What does it mean “there is less rustling on the disk...” I don’t understand how this is?
VK> When entering and exiting a directory, it does not re-read the directory.
VK> When renaming files, it does not load rename every time. Well, in
VK> other cases the disk does not fit _extra_ time.

By all indications, such a “new IS-DOS” can be made from anyone with a simple command

cache.com /32 (or not 32, but more).

The cache size simply increases due to other memory and that's all. In proprietary
IS-DOS, the default size is 27 blocks. This value was considered optimal
after lengthy tests - and the programs all fit into memory, and the cache
was of sufficient size.

VY>> And what does “built-in formatter” mean, where is built-in?
VK> In the “work with disk” menu.

Ha-ha-ha!!! Well, you made me laugh... ;-) Was it difficult to write the menu yourself? That's what she's foris intended to be written by the users themselves.
And we once had FORMAT DISK there, too, but then we removed it ourselves
after several lamer clients in a row decided to try “how does it
work” on the system disk, and then went on with complaints for a long time.

VK> And before that, either there was a whole disk, with one
VK> only a formatter (!), or from Tr-dos formatted to those that you load and
VK> you go to drink tea, sleep or something else.

This is because he is a leftist. We didn't create a formatter in TR-DOS - why? And all sorts of pirate perversions are by no means a reason to consider the system
unsuccessful.
And about the Slotovsky separate formatter, I have already expressed my opinion here.
I was always against this idea and I regret that I could not prevent it (it was released just before my appointment at Iskrasoft).

VY>> And in general, there is a good way to determine the novelty of the system,
VY>> regardless of the left numbers - view the creation date of the main
VY>> files
VK> The files, however, are all from 1994.

So it’s definitely old... What are we talking about?

VK> But _SLOT himself wrote that the fifth one - how not to believe?

And who should be trusted more, the authors or the distributors?
For some reason, there is a funny opinion that IS-DOS wrote Slot, and
we - so, on the side... I wonder what's the matter - in the long-term Soviethabit
that all the main enterprises are located in Moscow, and only branches in St. Petersburg?

By the way, when I was still working at the market in Avtovo in the PENCRAFT group, we were
several told that “... yes, yes, we know, you have a head
enterprise in Moscow, but here there is only a branch...”, :-0

With best regards best wishes,
Vadim

VY>> it was called), then it in the form in which it was left after
VY>> Sasha’s departure from the Department is UNWORKABLE and can cause
VY>> loss of information on your disks. In short, whoever dares to run this program
VY>> is to blame...
VK> Here is a help to this program: (just tore it out)

VK> ============[ and here I inserted SPEEDHL.$C ]============

VK> ╔═════════════════════ ═════════════════╗
VK> ║ IskraSOFT corp., St. Petersburg, Russia ║
VK> ║ ║
VK> ║ @ 1994 ║
VK> ╚═════════════════════ ═════════════════ў
VK> Program speedisk.com - designed
VK> to change the file structure of the device

Yes, yes, this is exactly that the option I was talking about. It would have a very unpleasant effect - at random unpredictable moments it would corrupt files, and could even kill the disk. Although some discs could have been processed without
damage. Sasha Demidov never had time to correct it - he left the Department,
and no one could figure out its source code, that’s how they were written:-(
So, just in case, it’s better not to use it - there will be fewer problems
especially since for most situations arzt+.com is quite enough

With best wishes,
Vadim

suddenly, Wednesday November 26 1997 01:32
and Vladimir Kacev writes to Max Romanoff the following:

MR>> there is a difference between a branded update and kitchen creativity too
MR>> there is.

VK> Yes, at least let the shoemaker do it, as long as it works well!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IMHO, it doesn't happen that way. Writing an OS is not your job of herding hedgehogs. ;-)

Best wishes,
Vadim

VY>> The only WORKING program on this topic is arzt+.com, it
VY>> is available on any basic IS-DOS disk, starting with version 3.0 (or
VY>> 3.5). But it does not defragment the disk, but simply fills the “holes”
VY>> in disk space, moving free blocks to the end.

VY> ^^^^^^^^ - but how can it be faster?

I don’t know how, maybe not by much, but faster.

VY> And 4.2 is also not ours... In general, it seems, 3.0 in terms of numbering
VY> Slots. HERE IS THE LIST OF BRANDED NUMBERS:

....

VY> And in general, IMHO it’s time to stop “measuring ourselves with pussies”, like “and
VY> my IS-DOS is better.” There is a branded registered product and there is
VY> a lefty one, which is sold by pirates, and even after tinkering with it (I’m not
VY> talking about Slot, but about those “craftsmen” who sell on the push).

So I don’t have a “lefty one”, but a branded version, bought in “Slot”! How can it
be wrong? And what should I call it, if during loading it says “5.0” in CAPITAL letters
and the sticker is stamped “Slot”?! Why should I rack my brain about what version this is? Written 5 means 5.

11/25/97 Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich sent a letter to All:

TE> in order to add something else there (for example, a terminal for haes)

Well, there is - it’s very necessary, and even better, a mailer. And then I got tired of hammering buttons for two years on the primitive. And at night you want to sleep.

Goodbye, Boris.

-+- iS-EDIT 6.06+

────────────── ─────────────────────── ─────────────────────── ───────────────────
In ancient times (26 November 97), Ser Vadim wrote on a scroll Vladimir Frunze,
Bequeathing "iS-DOS 5.0", and today (28 November 97) I decided intervene:
──────────── ────────────────────────── ────────────────────────── ───────────────

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Vadim Yeliseyev to
Igor Gruzdev Wed Nov 26, 1997 at 01:55...

IG>> By the way, regarding the defragmenter - they say it’s good to use it on a
IG>> megabyte machine - the entire disk is in memory - there is a defragmenter on it. Y?
VY> No, it’s turning out great, huh? In order to speed up defragmentation, first
VY> rewrite the entire disk onto an electronic one, then run the defragmenter,
VY> then rewrite it back - IMHO, even taking into account the track copier type
VY> a??a.com during this time you can just as easily do without
VY> defragmenter - copying to another disk or on the same RAM. And
VY> there are fewer operations, and the files will be more intact, that’s for sure.

Well... The question was exactly where the defragmenter works faster. ;)
On a RAM disk, even with track-by-track copying from/to disk, this will take no less than 40-50 minutes.

VK>> ╔═════════════════════ ═════════════════╗
VK>> ║ IskraSOFT corp., St. Petersburg, Russia ║
VK>> ║ ║
VK>> ║ @ 1994 ║
VK>> ╚═════════════════════ ═════════════════ў
VK>> Program speedisk.com - designed
VK>> to change the file structure of the device

VY>> "and my IS-DOS is better." There is a branded registered product and
VY>> there is a lefty one, which is sold by pirates, and even after tinkering with it
VY>> (I’m not talking about Slot, but about those “craftsmen” who sell on the push).

VF> So I don’t have a “lefty one”, but a branded version, bought in “Slot”! How
VF> can it be wrong? And what should I call it, if when loading
VF> it says “5.0” in CAPITAL letters and the sticker bears the stamp
VF> “Slot”?! Why do I have to wonder what version this is? Written 5 -
VF> means 5.

People!!! Stop arguing which is better, which is less branded, better throw this “4.5 By IskraSoft” into the FAQ\echo
!

27 Nov 97 21:59, Vladimir Frunze reported to Vadim Yeliseyev about {iS-DOS 5.0}:

VY>> leftist, which is sold by pirates, and even having delved into it (I’m not
VY>> about the Slot, but about those “craftsmen” selling on push).

VF> “5.0” is written in CAPITAL letters and the sticker is stamped “Slot”?!
VF> Why should I puzzle over what version this is? Written 5 means 5.

Well... They can’t figure it out on their own :)

If the SLOT had the right to keep its own numbering, then there is the 5th version, and if it didn’t
have, then there’s nothing to excuse them from...

In general, this is a long-standing Moscow tradition - to increase the numbers. Thank you for
5th, otherwise they could have been 6th, 7th, etc. :)

Warm greetings, Slava!

VY> Ha ha ha!!! Well, you made me laugh... ;-) Was it difficult to write the menu
VY> yourself? After all, it is intended to be written by the users themselves.
This is also understandable, but in the slot manual for IS-DOS (:) it is written: in order
VY> to consider the system unsuccessful.
I didn’t say that it was unsuccessful.
VY> And about Slotov’s separate formatter, I have already expressed my opinion
VY> here. I was always against this idea and I regret that I could not prevent it
VY> (it was released just before my appointment at
VY> Iskrasoft).
Actually, at that time it was wildly popular. I remember now
how then, being a simple user :) I went to Rostov to get it. And not only me.
It is clear - what kind of system is this without the possibility of reproduction! And what to copy and how in our country at that time it was hidden by software sellers.

VY> For some reason, there is a funny opinion that IS-DOS was written by Slot, and
VY> we - so, on the side...
At that time the opinion was that it was one and the same thing. Because in any information
on IS-DOS there were always two inscriptions. And now there is a book in front of me, a user manual, on the cover it is written:

"IskraSoft" S-Pb
"SLOT" Moscow

VY> I wonder what's the matter - the long-term Soviet
VY> habit that all the main enterprises are located in Moscow, and in St. Petersburg -
VY> only branches?
The letters S-Pb are not as noticeable as Moscow. Moreover, one might think
that this is some kind of joint An enterprise, as it was fashionable then.
And on the first page of the book it says MOSCOW 1993.
What else is there to think about? :)

zy In general, you did a good job, but let us down with advertising...

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Now the computer can be powered disable...

Once on November 27, 97 at 18:55, Vadim Yeliseyev wrote to Vladimir Kacev...
...and then it was skipped...
VK>> Who said that a file with a more
VK>> later date is _better_ than an older one?

VY> Better, in errors have been corrected. ;-)
Not always. A bunch of new ones could be added. (I don't mean edit+ specifically).

VY> will be, especially since for most situations it is quite enough
VY> arzt+.com

Yes, it is more than sufficient, it works quickly and well, and for special
defragmentation you can simply copy it to an empty disk.

Regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

Hi, Vadim!

26 Nov 97, Vadim Yeliseyev writes to Vitaly Samoylov:

VY> Working with large directories
VY> caused another serious, although
VY> invisible at first glance, problem, and
VY> namely: after deleting a large number of
VY> files from the directory, the directory itself remains
VY> the same size, as it was, which causes unjustified consumption of disk
VY> space. Let's say that the directory contained 120 files (directory size
VY> 120/8=15 blocks), 90 of them were deleted, therefore, to store the remaining 30 files, a directory with a size of 4 blocks, not 15, would be sufficient.
VY> New utility kit-kat.com (not to be confused with
VY> Kitekat) allows “trim” the unnecessary
VY> part of the directory, freeing up this
VY> “lost” disk space.

Why shouldn’t the OS kernel do this?
It’s somehow strange: the file system is maintained by manually launching
a whole pack of tools.

But FreeBSD can handle defragmentation itself,without the operator's request...

With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)

[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team For Garage] [Team Khasansky border guards]

VF>> "Slots"?! Why should I rack my brain about what version this is?
VF>> Written 5 means 5.

VM> Well... They can’t figure it out on their own :)

VM> If the SLOT had the right to have its own numbering, then there is the 5th version, and
VM> if it didn’t, then there’s no point in making excuses for them...

The slot has been gone for a long time, and there won’t be any more. Let's forget this left numbering
and accept the branded one, which I wrote about here recently. And in general, I think that the topic of “which IS-DOS number is cooler” has exhausted itself and it’s time to move on to a more
constructive discussion of the system. I can’t answer the question whether Slot had or didn’t have the right to set its own numbering, it was decided before me,
but they screwed us big with these numbers, as well as with their formatter.
Let’s not make it even bigger and inflate the market because of nonsense.

Best wishes,
Vadim

VF> So I don’t have a “leftist”, but a branded version, bought in “Slot”! How
VF> can it be wrong? And what should I call it, if when loading
VF> it says “5.0” in CAPITAL letters and the sticker bears the stamp
VF> “Slot”?! Why do I have to wonder what version this is? It says 5 -
VF> means 5.

suddenly, Friday November 28 1997 02:01
and Vitaly Samoylov writes to Vadim Yeliseyev the following:

VS> Here, a _specific_ proposal, throw your vaunted 4.5 into the file, and
VS> we'll see there! Or tell me where in 5020 you can get it!

IS-DOS is sent by cash on delivery within Russia, outside of Russia - by parcel with prepayment. To order, you can call in the evening at t. 260-7043 and
ask me, or write by letter to 2:5030/299.11 or by paper mail
to the address:

190000, St. Petersburg,
Main Post Office,
post restante,
Chapurina L.V.

PS: But I don’t have a file. :-(

Best wishes,
Vadim

26-11-97 Vadim Yeliseyev sent a letter to Boris Sokol:

VY> In my opinion, the only clock that can go correctly on Speck is
this
VY> hardware clock with a battery (someone seems to be going to make one like this,
maybe
VY> it was even Scorpion). I haven't come across software for them yet
VY>

Everything is already there: both the clock and the programs. They also installed it in ed4+.
And the calendar works great with a clock, with a business record
for ANY date, even the year 2100.
One thing is bad - there is no soaper, I'm tired of calling the mail meter by hand and pulling on the spec.
Aw! Maybe someone will dare to write a soaper under haes on spec.
But strictly under isdos.

──────────────────────────────────── ─────────────────────── ───────────────────
In ancient times (29 November 97), Ser Vladimir wrote on a scroll Vadim Yeliseyev
Bequeathing "Re: iS-DOS 5.0", and so on 30 November 97 I decided intervene:
───────────────────────────────── ──────────────────────── ─────────────────────

VK> Actually, at that time he was wildly popular. Now
VK> I remember how then, being a simple user :) I went to Rostov to get it. And
VK> it’s not just me. It is clear - what kind of system is this without the ability to
VK> reproduction! And what to copy and how we were hiding
VK> by software sellers at that time.

Yes, it was like that, I remember I even wrote mine in trdos!

VM> In general, this is a long-standing Moscow tradition - to increase numbers.
VM> Thank you for 5th, otherwise they could have been 6th, 7th, etc. :)

Slotovskaya!

VY> is a hardware clock with a battery (someone seems to be planning to do something like this
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
VY>, maybe it was even Scorpion). I haven’t come across software
VY> for them yet.
were made a long time ago and provided with software in zx-next.

Best regards. Sergey Mukhachev.

Hi, Vladimir!

29 Nov 97, Vladimir Kacev writes to Vadim Yeliseyev:

VK> This is also understandable, but in the slot manual for IS-DOS (:) it is written:
VK> ...finally the long-awaited version with _built-in
VK> endless_ formatter...

All this is generally somewhat strange. I rolled the ISDOS disk through ADS and noticed the format. Then I formatted the disk using FFORM, built a sector-by-sector copier myself
and received a copy of the system disk.
Moreover, I threw out the final sector with a size of 512 bytes and a random number, and
the system did not lose its functionality...

Then abba.com and I made my life a lot easier.

Even then, when the “infinite formatter” came, I I still formatted
bootable disks via FFORM...

that would be nice
>
> Sorry, Boris.
Eugene AKA Point777 of CrazyBrothers/Phantsy 2:4621/2.777

29 Nov 97 08:45, Vadim Yeliseyev reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {iS-DOS
5.0}:

VY> The slot has not been there for a long time, and there won’t be any more. Let's forget this left
VY> numbering and accept the proprietary one, which I wrote about here recently.

Who's against :)

VY> And in general, I think that the topic of “which IS-DOS number is cooler” has exhausted itself
VY> and it’s time to move on to a more constructive discussion of the system.

I’m afraid to seem tactless, but there are no versions (branded) above 4.5 expected?

Warm greetings, Slava!

AL> Slotovskaya!

No, sorry, not only... Usually this was the sin of S.Star vs M.Soft - so that
the buyer would go to the one who had the “freshest” (for example, ULO1v2.0, ULO2.30, UFO2.40,
ULO2.46...)
Kano worked well in this direction (for example, Sound.Heritage1.3 (so?), UFO1.05)
Here comes iS-DOS 5.0
A bunch of other system programs...
I’m sure there are more examples... Everywhere where the authors installed N.versions ;)
And the famous:
Dizzi X -> Dizzy 10
Dizzi Y -> Dizzy 10x2

All of this is marked “(C) Moscow"

zy\ of course, FFC has nothing to do with it :)))

Warm greetings, Slava!

AL>> Slotovskaya!

VM> No, sorry, not only... Usually S.Star vs M.Soft were guilty of this -

[the harsh truth is missing...]

VM> I’m sure there are more examples... Everywhere where the authors put N. versions ;)

Was it only Moscow who sinned with this?

VM> All of this is marked “(C) Moscow"

;) It’s just that _mainly_ it was Moscow releases that ended up in St. Petersburg. And you
really didn’t see a UFO not from Moscow? ;) This is the tradition of each individual cracker/hacker and everyone together.

VM> Warm greetings,
VM> Slava!

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru

VM> so that the buyer goes to the one who has the “freshest” (for example, UFO1v2.0, UFO2.30,
VM> UFO2.40, UFO2.46...) Kano worked well in this direction (for example,
VM> Sv. Heritage1.3 (right?), UFO1.05)
By the way, Sv. Heritage 1.3 is proprietary. True, there is also version 1.3P, but
this one is “non-proprietary”.

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

suddenly, Saturday November 29, 1997 20:03
and Boris Sokol writes to Vadim Yeliseyev the following:

BS> One thing is bad - there is no soaper, I’m tired of calling by hand
BS> the mail meter to pull on the spec.
BS> Aw! Maybe someone will dare to write a soaper under haes on spec.
BS> But strictly under isdos.

It would be great, but there’s just no one... I have long tried to raise this issue
among the St. Petersburg Sinclairists, Misha Kondratyev even promised
to give the potential author the developments he has on Z-Modem,
but there was no one... :-(((

Best wishes,
Vadim