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Get Msg, All!
It seems that "Game World Novigator" #9 has been released with a large article by P. Davidov about
Spectrum. I'll buy it and tell you. Or who already has it?
Warm greetings, Slava!
Hello, Vyacheslav!
It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Vyacheslav
Mednonogov to All Mon Jan 12 1998 at 01:00...
VM> It seems that “Game World Novigator” #9 has been released with a large article by P. Davidov
VM> about Spectrum. I'll buy it and tell you. Or who already has it?
Can you scan it and use it in the FAQ? If there is an opportunity and if there is something interesting to read there?
With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.
... It has never happened that everything has happened.
VM>> P. Davidov about Spectrum. I'll buy it and tell you. Or who already has it?
IG> Can you scan it in the FAQ? If there is an opportunity and if there is something interesting to read
IG>?
He didn’t even make it to St. Petersburg :( I looked around the whole city - everywhere it’s 7th-8th, and in
Scorpio it’s generally 6th :)
With warm greetings, Slava!
Hello, hello my friend Vyacheslav!
Mon Jan 12 1998, at 01:00, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to All:
VM> It seems that “Game World Novigator” #9 has been released with a big article by P. Davidov
VM> about Spectrum. I'll buy it and tell you. Or who already has it?
P. Davidov is by any chance not the idiot who once showed off here?
Sincerely, CAPTAIN/56.
DM> P. Davidov is by any chance not the same idiot who once showed off here
DM>?
the same one, CGA still praised him a lot.
Nicolaus.
NM> the same one, he still praised CGA very much.
The man made such a cool article about the Spectrum! And not just anywhere, but in a magazine, on the cover of which there is always the motto “PC forever”. Now, if only in
"Amiga Guide" or "Amiga #1" there was something similar, except for "don't hit your head on the Spectrum" :(
In short, this means that "whoever remembers the old, look out" :))
Warm greetings, Slava!
VM> Man made such a cool article about the Spectrum! And not just anywhere, but in
VM> magazine, on the cover of which there is always the motto “PC forever”. Now, if only in
Where? 8-() I bought it on purpose (by the way, I’m not the only one, and finally, someone will owe me 25 rubles ;) The motto there is “+ a coupon for a free demo disc
from....."... no, this is not a motto, this is a “driving force”. A! This is probably - “we
believe - this world is real”... Can I blather? Okay, you can’t - you can’t do that...
VM> “Amiga Guide” or “Amiga #1” I came across something similar, except “don’t
VM> hit your head on the Spectrum” :(
Slav, measure the number of pissy magazines (there’s simply nowhere to spit) - thousands
of titles, with dozens of Amiga ones... And don’t forget about the Spectrum ones - this
Petka Davydov is surprised by their number, and in the world it’s nothing, and even in
a language incomprehensible to the world. And as for the Amizhniks, they should survive on their own, what kind of (emphasis
put it yourself) Spectrum...
VM> In short, this means that “whoever remembers the old will be out of sight” :))
Well, you know me... It’s hard to get me to call toilet paper a newspaper...
Even if it’s named after me ;)
VM> Warm greetings,
VM> Slava!
Slava, five bottles of Baltika from you are for HIM.You advertise well... Damn,
I exchanged five beers for a half-kilogram magazine, where there is 10kb of information, but no reading
at all - a typical pisish fallacy...
PPS: How about we discuss the “introductory article”? I just laughed ;(_) - “three sprites
on one line”, “TauCeti - tank simulator”... Well, whatever you want...
Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
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in the guide not a word was said to disparage Spectrum, and
it couldn’t be, and I didn’t even leaf through the Mikhailovsky book for you
, it was too thick and about other things, but there was no anti-Spectrum
propaganda there.
here Marat Faizullin has been speaking out for some time about this
notorious head, and someone else wrote at the time; “The big
joke is that the most difficult passages are first written in C on
the PC, and then transferred to ASM (by hand, of course). It turns out
faster and more reliable. Next time I’m thinking of preparing the entire thing first on IBM
, and only then transferring it to ZX :))”
Get Msg, Dmitry!
30 Jan 98 23:04, Dmitry Grigoryev reported Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {IM-9}:
DG> someone will owe me 25 rubles
Dima, I’ll buy you a ticket to FunTop :)
DG> Slav, five bottles of Baltika from you - for HIM. Well, you
DG> are advertising...
Actually, I somehow wanted to throw it into the echo box (the magazine says something like
"reprinting of materials is permitted with reference to the source"). But, since many here
have already bought... ;) [however, cuneiform may not understand scanned on color
paper]
DG> Damn, I traded five beers for a half-kilogram magazine, where there is 10kb of information in
DG>, but there is no reading at all - a typical pisish foltles...
There are a lot of pictures! I love color pictures :)
DG> PPS: How about we discuss the “introductory article”? I just laughed ;(_) - “three
DG> sprites on one line”, “TauCeti - tank simulator”... Well, whatever you want...
And there is a different author :) I just glanced at it.
Warm greetings, Slava!
Get Msg, Nicolaus!
31 Jan 98 18:04, Nicolaus Mezencef communicated Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {IM-9}:
NM> there were 4 pages about the Spectrum and only the last one was his work.
NM> as for coolness - I don’t know, I don’t know, ideologically it is of course
NM> it was maintained correctly, but it could have been better.
The fact itself is pleasant :) It’s unlikely that there were any other precedents (in decent magazines,
of course). Or am I wrong?
VM>> “don’t hit your head on the Spectrum” :(
NM> here Marat Faizullin has been speaking out about this
NM> notorious head for some time, and someone else wrote at one time;
Yes? 8-[ ] Damn, when will there be at least one Russifier in America? - it’s hard
his letters are read :(
NM> "The big joke is that the most difficult passages are written first
NM> in C on the PC, and then transferred to ASM (by hand, of course).
NM> It turns out faster and more reliable. Next time I’m thinking about preparing the whole thing
NM> first on IBM, and only then transferring it to ZX :))"
The big joke is that we’ll try to lose cook without transferring to
Spectrum. Already a gigantic idea was born in my head. Of course, it’s weird to somehow
get over, but someday you would still have to do it :( “It’s time to give
way to the young :)”
There’s a DG subzh scolding, but there’s a lot of stuff thereuseful information - for example,
how many "Confrontations" in different versions were sold by Doka last year. And
this is despite the chaos that has begun to happen with domestic PC-software/games recently (in terms of pirated distribution). Makes you think...
Hello Vyacheslav Mednonogov! In a message of 02 Feb 98 Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Nicolaus Mezencef:
VM> There DG subzh scolds, but there’s a lot of useful information -
VM> for example, how many “Confrontations” were sold last year by Doka in
VM> different versions. And this is despite the chaos that has begun to happen with
VM> domestic PC software/games recently (in terms of
VM> pirated distribution). Makes you think...
These things are not pirated, and if they are pirated, they are sold under the counter. But in the markets only a few pirates have them, and many don’t have them at all. The main thing is that none of the sellers have one, and then everyone will have a license, because
such things cannot be “hidden behind.” It’s the same story with the “Pilot Brothers.”
With respect, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.
>e-mail: as...@usa.net
NM> the notorious head, and someone else wrote at one time; “The big
NM> joke is that the most difficult parts are written first in C on
NM> PC, and then transferred to ASM (by hand, of course). It turns out
NM> faster and more reliable. Next time I think entirely first on IBM
NM> cook it up, and only then transfer it to ZX :))"
You are absolutely right, with c++ (or without the pluses) it is much easier
to do everything, the main thing is that it works, and the rest is a matter of
techniques.
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VM> Actually, I somehow wanted to throw it into the echo (the journal says
VM> something like “reprinting of materials is permitted with reference to
VM> source”). But, since many people here have already bought... ;) [however, cuneiform
VM> may not understand what is scanned on colored paper]
Come on in the echo or to me with soap, I haven’t read it.
VM> Warm greetings,
VM> Slava!
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Get Msg, Alex!
02 Feb 98 08:56, Alex Letaev reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {Re: HIM-9}:
AL> These things are not pirated, and if they are pirated, they are sold from
AL> underground. But in the markets only a few pirates have them, and many don’t have them at all.
AL> The main thing is that none of the sellers have them, and then everyone will have a license,
AL> because such things cannot be “hidden behind.” It's the same story with the "Pilot Brothers"
AL>.
Offtopic, of course, but in St. Petersburg this has definitely been
chaos for the last couple of months. "Pilots"/"Confrontation"/"Parkan"/etc. on every second tray in
open, moreover, they were losing not only on gold, but also on Bulgaria
they began to come :(((
It’s better on Speck with copyright :)
With warm greetings, Slava!
VM> Yes? 8-[ ] Damn, when will there be at least one Russifier in America? -
VM> it’s hard to read his letters :(
they say he doesn’t like Russifiers, but he’s about to write a converter from
translit into Russian, specialno dla chitatelej ZX.SPECTRUM :)
NM>> It turns out faster and more reliable. Next I'm thinking entirely
NM>> first to cook it up on IBM, and only then transfer it to ZX :))"
VM> The big joke is that we'll try to cook it up without transferring
VM> to the Spectrum. Already a gigantic idea was born in my head. Of course, it's weird
VM> to somehow move, but someday we would have to do it anyway :(
VM> “It’s time to give way to the young :)”
and you write portablely, as Marat advises, you look and... and for example
some bright mind will transfer HiSoft C to spec :)
Hello Vyacheslav Mednonogov! In a message of 03 Feb 98 Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to me:
VM> It’s better on Spec with copyright :)
That’s for sure.
PF> Mikhailov personally told me “stop banging your head on the Spectrum,
PF> go to...” this is his phrase.
But for example, I didn’t tell you this, although I also have ami. It's not about the platform, it's about the people, and there are different people on all platforms.
VM> Dima, I’ll buy you a ticket to FunTop :)
You know - I, as the organizer, don’t need it... I kind of already took care of it
;)
VM> Actually, I somehow wanted to throw it into the echo (the magazine says something
VM> like “reprinting of materials is permitted with reference to the source”). But, since
VM> here many have already bought... ;)
Well, not everyone can spend 25 on something incomprehensible :) Moreover, it is scolded... And
a negative example is the best ;)
VM> [however, cuneiform may not understand scanned on colored paper]
They did this on purpose :)
VM> There are a lot of pictures! I love color pictures :)
Yeah... Especially when in game reviews instead of snapshots they use frames from
movies based on or, at best, from the introductory film... That's how I
Pentium bought because of such idiots ;) And then someone bought Twigger - a beautiful
toy, if you don't show it yourself process...
NM> I haven’t seen them in ours, but all too often in the bourgeois ones
For example? I’d just like to take a look...
NM> they say he doesn’t like Russifiers, but he’s about to write a converter from
NM> translit into Russian, specialno dla chitatelej ZX.SPECTRUM :)
This is typical... Instead of meeting the standards yourself, try
to retrain “the whole world”.
VM> in different versions. And this despite the chaos that began to happen
How much? 21 thousand? In 2-3 years. A drop in the ocean! How many potential
buyers? It seems like the number 10 million slipped? 21/10000. Now, please, make public your successes. In numbers and relatively 1000-3000 spektrumists. Don't
feel great yet? ;)
VM> with domestic PC software/games recently (in terms of
NM>>> It turns out faster and more reliable. Next I'm thinking about the whole
NM>>> first on IBM, and only then transfer it to ZX :))"
VM>> The big joke is that we'll try to cook it up without transferring
VM>> to the Spectrum. A gigantic idea has already appeared in my head. Of course, it's weird
VM>> to somehow move, but someday we would have to do it anyway :(
EM> And how many disks will it occupy, and at what speed will it work?
The main obstacle to the transfer will most likely be the architecture of the Spectrum;
48 KB and pages with C000. And if you overcome this barrier, you will still have
to convert the graphics. Perhaps it will be easier to do this on Sprinter
and make the work much easier if you immediately write taking into account the transfer.
Nicolaus.
DG> How much? 21 thousand? In 2-3 years. A drop in the ocean! How many potential
DG> buyers? It seems that the figure of 10 million was missed?
Maybe, if not more... In the same sub-section the planned circulation
for StarCraft was given - 1,600,000.
DG> 21/10000.
21,000 is a very good figure. Which Russian project sells in large
circulations? Maybe just the notorious Parkan. I have two friends who work in two
different companies that write toys for the rotten West :) According to them - 50,000
is the limit for an average game. And this is considered normal.
DG> Now, please, make public your successes. In numbers and relatively
DG> 1000-3000 spektrumistov. Not feeling great yet? ;)
Like, is it better to be the first in the village than the last in the city? ;) No, I don’t
think so... Now... Previously, maybe (it was called “youthful maximalism”).
Warm greetings, Slava!
Get Msg, Dmitry!
06 Feb 98 08:12, Dmitry Grigoryev reported Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {IM-9}:
DG> And I first ;( Maybe I’m going broke in vain? Peter didn’t mean any harm
DG> (?)...
I propose to come to a consensus on this positive note :)
Warm greetings, Slava!
NM> the main obstacle to the transfer will most likely be the architecture of the Spectrum;
NM> 48 KB and pages from C000. And if you overcome this barrier, you will still have
NM> to convert the graphics. Perhaps on Sprinter it will be easier to do this
NM> and make the work much easier if you immediately write taking into account the transfer.
Well, I don’t know, maybe the “old school” is speaking in me. But, IMHO, for example
you can’t write anything in C that I couldn’t write in
Assembler...
And the problem of memory architecture is really key in this matter.
The only ways that I see now:
1) To access data, enter a three-byte address, and using
a special The driver procedure converts a three-byte address into a “two-byte + page No” and reads/writes a byte using it. I
used this method in the first versions of my ZX-WinWord. It is good for everyone, but only when large volumes of processed data (over 100-200 bytes) begin to slow down quite noticeably...
2) For procedures/functions:
a) similar to (1) - a call is made to a three-byte address;
b) in the main memory there is a resident who turns on the desired page and
jumps to a fixed two-byte address.
All methods have their advantages/disadvantages, but one drawback
is present in all of them - _SHARP_performance decreases...
By the way, Microsoft claims that it has sold 65 million copies of the office.
VM> Maybe, if not more... In the same sub they cited
VM> the planned
VM> circulation for StarCraft is 1,600,000.
Well, you can see the difference yourself. Moreover, no one is expecting a “special masterpiece.”
DG>> 21/10000.
VM> 21.000 is a very good number. Which Russian project sells
VM> in large quantities? Maybe just the notorious Parkan. I have two friends
And why should the Russian project be in such a mess? That is, why is this
considered normal and even gives rise to snobbery?
VM> work in two different companies that write toys for the rotten
VM> West :)
VM> According to them, 50,000 is the limit for an average game. And this
VM> is considered normal.
I see. They make another average game. As usual, they scramble for ideas and lick interfaces. That's what they, the artisans, need ;)
Dmitry is that you?
...why did you tell Vyacheslav Mednonogov about HIM-9?
DG> By the way, Microsoft claims that it has sold 65 million copies of the office.
to the whole world, including corporations that did not buy one copy per
100 machines Is the idea clear?
Good Luck...
... And there were plagues of locusts, and frogs, and MS-DOS, and MS Windows.
DG> And why should the Russian project be in such a mess? That is, why
DG> is this considered normal and even gives rise to snobbery?
the largest circulation was sold... wingames by Nikita, probably because of the price
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Monday February 23, 1998 21:28, Max Romanoff wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:
MR> to the whole world, including corporations that did not buy one copy for
MR> 100 machines. Is the idea clear?
And on each machine there are five users in shifts. Is the idea clear? Of course, not
all of them are potential game buyers, but a considerable part - tens of millions.
MR> Good Luck...