HTML on Spectrum?!

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From Andrew Savichev To All 20 February 1998


Hi, All!

Is it possible to use Subj on the Spectrum and, if so, where?
Currently, Hyper Text Markup Language is widely used in
WWW technology on the Internet.
But at the same time, in essence, it is a markup (formatting) language for documents.
Tags are used for these purposes - control codes enclosed in angular
brackets. A viewing program (usually a browser), using tags, converts
an ordinary text file with tags into a raster graphics file, in which various proportional (vector) fonts, links to
graphic, music and video files can be used, but in addition, such a file is converted
on the user's computer into forms, tables and frames.
Forms are electronic forms for filling out. The form allows you to enter text
and make a selection from a list or using buttons (i.e., the fields to
fill in can contain both suggested options, one of which
can be selected, and an option that is not available, but which can be entered
by the user. Forms are used to set search parameters on a search
server and as a dialog box. That is, the text file you receive, for example
electronic newspaper :) can simultaneously be a knowledge base (search for key
words) and a questionnaire (questionnaire) for the reader and simply a logically organized,
interactive shell. In ZX-NET, since in essence it is completean analogue of online
(Internet), it is possible to organize an analogue of WWW in relation to the capabilities of
Spectrum and then the form will begin to work “in full force”.
To view HTML-Z, let’s call it that, you need an analogue of a browser, and it can
exist in several versions: under TR-DOS, IS-DOS, MSDOS and WINDOWS.
With tables, everything is more or less clear, many people (especially clerical
bias) learn material from tables much better.
But frames are simply a way to display texts from
different documents on one screen, for example (in relation to an electronic newspaper) read and compare
articles that contain a description and source text of a program or several
similar commercial offers from different people, etc.
With proportional fonts, everything seems to be clear too, for example captions to block diagrams
can be made in a smaller font (invisible on the Spectrum) and do not distract attention during the first
reading. On the contrary, headings and highlighting of keywords in the text (hypertext) can be done not only with color, but also with a different font, and hypertext can also be underlined and the type of graphic cursor can be changed when “mouse-over”. Hypertext is capable of bringing up bundles of different texts on the screen and even leading to the execution of a program associated with it, playing a clip, etc. However, the latter is betterdo when you “hit the mouse” on
a conventional pictogram picture or even a full picture, although in the latter case
it is logical to start scrolling a video clip or launch a toy, the screensaver of which
is displayed in the screen field.
All this “goodness” can be oriented towards the Spectrum, throwing out unnecessary complications
designed for multi-platform (after all, computers with a different processor
and similar The Spectrum doesn't have a screen anyway).
This will give a big impetus to the development of the electronic press, reference and information
materials, will allow organizing individual pages in ZX-NET (oh, but
then give software for virtuals too ;)).
And it will reduce the amount of information sent across networks, and the quality of graphic
design of materials and shells will only improve.
In a word: who will develop a standard for HTML-Z and who will sculpt the browser?

With respect, Andrey Savichev/CGS


From Igor Gruzdev To All 20 February 1998


Hello, Andrew!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Andrew Savichev to
All Fri Feb 20 1998 at 10:40...

AS> Is it possible to use Subj on the Spectrum and if so, where?

Imho, it’s implemented in Domen Os (Pink Floyd). I haven’t checked it myself.

AS> In a word: who will develop a standard for HTML-Z and who will create a browser?

Who needs it... ;(


With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... What remains in a person when he becomes good?

From Max Lanskih To All 23 February 1998


Hello, Andrew!

20 Feb 98 at 10:40 Andrew Savichev drank a bottle of beer Wrote
for All the following:

[...skp...]
AS> All this “good” can be oriented towards the Spectrum, throwing out unnecessary
AS> complications designed for multi-platform (after all, computers with
AS> a different processor and a screen similar to the Spectrum anyway, no).
AS> This will give a big impetus to the development of the electronic press,
AS> reference and information materials, will allow organizing individual
AS> pages in ZX-NET (oh, but then give software for virtuals too ;)).
AS> And it will reduce the amount of information sent across networks, and the quality of the graphic
AS> design of materials and shells will only improve.

From Pavel Nikonov To All 25 February 1998

AS>> browser?
ML> That's what I think... It's not all that difficult to do. And there seems to be something like a
ML> browser on Spec, in Pink Floyd. But I haven’t dealt with it
ML>, maybe it’s not the same at all.
Pink Floyd is complete nonsense (may the authors forgive me) - not as software (there’s still some way
to cover up the shortcomings), but as an OS. Its huge drawback was that when it was first published, they did not put in the minimum amount of effort into promoting it (although there is nothing special to promote). All that was needed was to adapt
MASM/TASM/ART128/PRO_TRACKER - look - maybe people were interested.
PS. For a full-fledged OS you need immeasurable (according to SPECCY standards) resources, but they
are not there (and probably won’t be...).
<- With best regardz, Pavel ->

ZX - The Power of Shock (c) Pol Freeman


From Andrey Khristov To All 26 February 1998

Hi, Pavel!

25 Feb 98, Pavel Nikonov writes to Max Lanskih:

PN> PS. For a full-fledged OS
PN> you need immeasurable (according to SPECCY standards) resources, but they don’t exist (and probably
PN> there won’t be...).

In my opinion, the biggest problem is the TRDOS file system.
It needs to be jumped over. Softly, without loss of compatibility, but with Russian letters,
subdirectories, support for “long” media (screws, CDROM)...

I have some kind of mess in my head, if it takes shape, I’ll try to win and
do something...

With best wishes - Andrey Khristov (ha...@robin.alt.ru)

[Team Horse Aviation] [Team beer, girls & sofa]
[Team Electric Welding Must Die!] [Team Khasan Border Guards]

From Igor Gruzdev To All 1 March 1998


Hello, Andrey!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Andrey Khristov to
Pavel Nikonov Thu Feb 26 1998 at 22:26...

PN>> PS. For a full-fledged OS you need immeasurable (according to SPECCY standards) resources, and
PN>> there are none (and probably won’t be...).
AK> In my opinion, the biggest problem is the TRDOS file system.
AK> We need to jump over it. Softly, without loss of compatibility, but with Russian
AK> letters, subdirectories, support for “long” media (screws, CDROM)...
AK> I have some kind of mess in my head, if it takes shape, I’ll try
AK> to win and do something...

And how are things with Pavel Fedin? (I think so) - he wrote something similar, IMHO. Not long ago...

From Andrey Khristov To All 5 March 1998

AK>> in Russian letters, subdirectories, support for “long” media
AK>> (screws, CDROM)... I have some kind of mess in my head, if
AK>> takes shape, I’ll try to win and do something...

IG> How are things going with Pavel Fedin? (I think so) - he wrote something similar,
IG> IMHO. Not long ago...

So let him come out here and tell me where the party's gold went ;)))