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In a message of 10 Nov 97 Max Romanoff wrote to Sergei Novikov:

SN>> Doesn’t work with Scorpov’s screw.
MR> this is a problem with the screw. No, let's do it right away and make loaders on
MR> BASIC
MR> - it's easy to convert to tape: what if someone
MR> doesn't have a floppy drive?!
MR> p.s. insanity, however.

Insanity is a bootloader!!! I don't have a disk drive! Broke!

There is only a screw!!!! And a tape recorder :) I once had the opportunity to live for a month without a disk drive at all. Even when he was alive, I
used it extremely rarely - only to launch “masterpieces”
written by individuals who like to call completely sane people senile.

Imagine this situation: you launch a certain program from screw
C, and it tries to load itself from drive A...

Then your teeth begin to grind, and your hands reach for a huge It’s time, in a sacred impulse, to eradicate this disgusting thing! Turboloaders
- chop with huge axes! After all, this is idiocy - a turboloader for as many as two tracks! A dubious gain of half a second turns into
a bunch of glitches and incompatibilities! By the way, about the speed: subj works faster _only_ on fast disks, that is, with striping
=1, formatted in DCU, FUT and similar utilities. If you format the command format "diskname" then the speed turboloader_NOT
ADDS_, and usually such a disk kills! The loader in KINETIK is exactly like this, after each start the floppy disk must be reformatted.

On normal disks, I personally tried to copy 1000 sectors
through #3d13 and through the turbo, and trdos did it for four seconds
_FASTER_! What’s interesting is that half of the turboloaders are turbo in name only; they hardly work faster than trdos. I don’t know, but the fact
remains a fact, take the same Nicron. Compatibility is generally a problem. After all, not everyone has 5.03! There are also 5.01, 5.02, 5.04, 5.05,
5.06! Can you guarantee compatibility? After all, a living computer is not a sweaty emulsion; you cannot replace the firmware. And starting from 5.05 and partially
5.04 all the brakes were removed there! On disks with head skew and
cilinder skew, trdos itself works almost twice as fast as your
"turbo" bootloader! If the system works slowly, you need to change it, and not do its work yourself. When a more advanced version (5.06 IMHO) spreads, I wonder what people will think about turboloaders then?

Today I tore the hard drive away from my scorpion. I wanted to
chop it into small pieces with a huge ax, but changed my mind.
What if it comes in handy? Дисковода-то нет... :(

Потом полдня гpузил pазные пpоги с чудом уцелевших кассет, и
pадовался: pаботают! И не глючат!!! Потом одумался, поставил на
место винт, залез в Zed, подумал и гpомко заоpал: Лллллллллллюди!
Кто учил вас кодиpовать!!??? Where do you come from??? -
even worse...

Why is all the software tailored to a buggy Pentagon with one disk drive, a dirty bus and crooked ports?

The list can be quite impressive, who knows, he will understand.

2SN: Got it?

Almost all the latest releases are loaded from a screw with glitches, and
this is all to blame a terrible plague called MSPACK!
This masterpiece by default places its unpacker at address
23296 (#5b00), and in this situation, at address #5b5c it turns out to be
#28 = %00101000, the third bit in one!
This has become my curse. you observe a dirty screen accompanied by music, or a complete discrepancysome kind of thing.

You press magic and oh damn! MSPACK again! At #5b5c again
#28! And again scr7! I command the shadow literally the following: mem
#5b5c
.0
scr5
exit
After that everything is fine.

People! I've been patient for a long time! If you use mspack, then give it the address of the unpacker 23297! In this situation, #04 will fall into #5b5c and there will be no glitches! And in general, keep an eye on #5b5c.

12 Dec 97 21:14, Valerij Kozhewnik (095/462.18) wrote to All:
[...]
VK> Why is all the software tailored to a buggy Pentagon with one disk drive, a dirty bus and crooked ports?
My friend, through your mouth, Yes, I should drink honey! ;)))
I, too, have already raised the question a thousand times about the specialization of the software for pEntagon 8-E~~~
I completely agree with you, there is a standard all over the world ZX Spectrum 128,
by the way by Clive Sinclair, and only in a single region everyone
focuses on the monstrous glitched, citing the fact that it is widespread.
But no one wants to admit that the purchased (assembled) child turned out to be a paralytic.

IMHO: pEntagon-MD! (I saw it, worked on it, thank you, no more)
PS: Let's hope that Sprinter turns out to be normal wheelbarrow.
PPS: And once again let's hope that after the official announcement of the release of
Sprinters, the history of the Pentagon will not repeat itself -
developers - Oh, we've got a hardware glitch here, so we recommend that you
cut the tracks nn and throw jumpers ..., and replace the xx
chip with yy.

I repeat, this is my IMHO, but I agree to listen to other opinions, maybe you
convince me of the viability of the Pentagon ;)))

Oleg AKA Olav

... Only the dead can be resurrected. It's harder for the living.

Saturday 13 Dec 1997 00:06, Oleg Bashtenko wrote to Valerij Kozhewnik (095/462.18):

OB> IMHO: pEntagon-MD! (I saw it, worked on it, thank you,
OB> no more) PS: Let's hope that Sprinter will be
OB> a normal car.

The more bells and whistles, the greater the incompatibility with the original. And to cut down
excess hardware with a compatibility switch with the “native” Spectrum... it’s easier to buy another
computer. Personally, I don’t need the bells and whistles, I need the NATIVE SPECTRUM, and not the fancy Horseradish Knows How It Works.

And the Sprinter won’t turn around here, it didn’t appear in modern times and its bells and whistles are not worth the money. It’s easier to buy something else.

As VK says: - chop with an axe!

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

VK> The list can be quite impressive, whoever knows will understand-
VK> met.

VK> 2SN: Got it?

So it was fixed right away. After Kinetik'a-

I can’t - it’s impossible. only that there are a little more bars and some
people just can’t fit their work into the int :))) and cartoons
(Kolorovsky) are sharpening the standard for it. from so from - and we have to
use rubbish because of this. (but not for me :)
a good indicator - yesterday (and today) at my party people played the scorpion with all their hearts, played demos, listened to music (the steering wheel is in the condom!). only the bastard
was reset after titty twister :(

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OB> IMHO: pEntagon-MD! (I saw it, worked on it, thank you, more not necessary)

Your IMHO is of course very interesting, but apparently you are not aware that the Pentagon, oddly enough, is closer to the original than any other computer. God be with him,
with the #FF ports, God be with her, with the bus (by the way, if you dug branded toys, then
more than once you probably noticed the interrupt tables written in them >> what is the thread
talking about?). So, what does it all come down to? To drawing one line in 224
tacts. Just like in the original. True, the Pentagon has more lines. 320 versus 312. For example, adjusting all multicolor/border themes comes down to changing the delay at the beginning of the raster, and that’s all. With all sorts of plague scorpions, everything will be so hemorrhagic...

In terms of hardware, IMHO most amateur developments are oriented specifically towards the Pentagon. It's easy to expand memory. Easy to hang the turbo. My Pentagon is absolutely lovely. Four screens. You can go through NMI to STS, which sits on a specific page with its own screen. And comparing STS with the shadow scorpion
is simply ridiculous. There is one more cool thing: from the total 48 mode (by
setting the appropriate bit in #7FFD), you can programmatically return to the extended mode.

With best wishes,John.

===> #/FUCK/# *mUlTiMeDiA*, #/MAKE/# more $dEmOs$ ===>

12 Dec 97 21:14, Valerij Kozhewnik (095/462.18) informed All about {HDD}:

VK> People! I've been patient for a long time! If you use mspack, then give it the address
VK> of the unpacker 23297! In this situation, #04 will fall into #5b5c and there will be no glitches! And in general, follow #5b5c.

To support someone's buggy hard drive connection scheme? :))
You don't know, but some major programs contain code from address #4000 to
#FFFF, and the output leads to SCR-7? So in #5B5C there may be something worse than one in the third digit :) For example, in one in the fifth! З8-[ ]

Warm greetings, Slava!

OB> I, too, have already raised the question a thousand times about the specialization of software for pEntagon

Where did you raise it so many times? :)

OB> I completely agree with you, there is a standard all over the world ZX Spectrum
OB> 128,

No one is interested in the whole world. Or do you suggest sharpening the software for
microdrive?

OB> IMHO: pEntagon-MD! (I saw it, worked on it, thank you, no more)

Pentagon - Rulez %)

OB> I repeat, this is my IMHO, but I agree to listen to other opinions, maybe you
OB> will convince me of the viability of the Pentagon ;)))

Convinced?

Warm greetings, Slava!

14 Dec 97 00:06, John Stunner wrote to Oleg Bashtenko:
[...]
JS> God be with him, with the #FF port, God be with her, with the bus
And yet...
JS> True, the Pentagon has more lines. 320 versus 312.
Such a small difference ;)
JS> For example, adjusting all multicolor/border themes comes down to
JS> changing the delay at the beginning of the raster, and that’s all. With all sorts of plague scorpions, everything
JS> will be so hemorrhagic...
So we're talking about compatibility!!!
JS> In terms of hardware, IMHO most amateur developments are focused
JS> specifically on the Pentagon
Due to its high prevalence.
JS> A comparison STS with shadow scorpion is just funny. There is one more
JS> cool thing, from the total 48 mode (by installing
JS> the corresponding bit in #7FFD), you can programmatically return to the extended one.
Yes, you also need to hack with the service, getting pleasure from the process;)
there is nothing to argue here. But the question was about compatibility...

Oleg AKA Olav

... Insert disk 5 of 4 and press any key to continue

JS> Yours IMHO is of course very interesting, but apparently you are not aware that
JS> the pentagon, oddly enough, is closer to the original than any

Original is a flexible concept, it is far from spectrum128, but perhaps closer to +2 &
+3.

JS> another computer. God be with him, with the #FF ports, God be with her, with the bus (by the way, if you
JS> were digging branded toys, then more than once you probably noticed in them
JS> written interrupt tables >> what is the thread talking about?). So here's the thing

On a 128 branded machine, interrupt tables are an absolute rarity, the bus
is completely stable, and the main joke is that you can't place the interrupt table above 32768. If it is higher, the operation of games is accompanied by glitches on
the screen, without disrupting the program, this is the case with branded machines.

JS> does it all come down? To drawing one line in 224 clock cycles. As in
JS> original. True, the Pentagon has more lines. 320 versus 312. For example
JS> adjusting all multicolor/border themes comes down to changing
JS> the delay at the beginning of the raster, and that’s all. For all sorts of plague scorpions, everything will be
JS> so crap...

More cycles - easier to code. I suspect that +2 & +3 did not slow down access to
memory, and had a temporary Pentagon, or very similar.

14 Dec 97 18:24, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Oleg Bashtenko:
[...]
OB>> I, too, have already raised the question a thousand times about the software being tailored to
OB>> pEntagon
VM> Where did you raise it so many times? :)
And here in the echo I raised... ;)
VM> The whole world is of no interest to anyone. Or do you suggest sharpening the software for
VM> microdrive?
Well, what did I say! Immediately extremes such as microdrive begin,
fencing immediately begins...
VM> Pentagon - Rulez %)
Yes? 8()
AFAIK in the Enlight_rules there was a point about throwing
a sophisticated version with all sorts of IM_loaders on the domestic market, and sending it overseas
with a VASIC loader.
So! I pose the question point blank - where are the programs with VASIC loaders??? ;))))
And in general, the issue of the Pentagon is much more complicated than many people imagine.

1. SPECTRUM IS DISTRIBUTED NOT ONLY IN RUSSIA!
2. PENTAGON IS NOT THE ONLY SPECTRUM-COMPATIBLE COMPUTER!!!!!!

Oleg AKA Olav

... Populating the world is easy. Emptying is easy. So, what's the difficulty?

14 Dec 97 00:06, John Stunner wrote to Oleg Bashtenko:

JS> There is another cool thing, from the total 48
JS> mode (by setting the appropriate bit in #7FFD), you can
JS> programmatically return to the extended one.

And this how? :O

Sincerely
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In a message of 12 Dec 97 Valerij Kozhewnik (095/462.18) wrote to Max
Romanoff:

VK0> Insanity is a bootloader!!! I don't have a disk drive! It's broken!

You found money for a screw, but can't find it for a disk drive?
Original.

Nicolaus.

VP>
VP> I can’t - it’s impossible. only that there are a little more bars and some
VP> people just can’t fit their work into the int :)))
Standard, AdnAkA!
Almost everything that doesn’t run on other machines runs on my Pentagon.

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Now the computer’s power can be turned off...

JS>> comes down to changing the delay at the beginning of the raster, and that’s all. Ha
JS>> all sorts of plague scorpions, everything will be so hemorrhagic...
OB> So we're talking about compatibility!!!

Are you saying that the number of clock cycles per line and pentagon
is not standard? The only difference between the Pentagon and the standard Speccy
is the extra eight lines per frame. In Scorpio, the timing of a line is something.

Sincerely
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VY> Are you saying that the number of clock cycles per line and pentagon
VY> is not standard? The only difference between the Pentagon and the standard Speccy
VY> is the extra eight lines per frame. On Scorpio, the timing of a line is
VY> something.
Until the Pentagon appeared, I had never encountered such a glitch as
slowing down AY music! Doesn't it really give rise to some thoughts...;)))

Oleg AKA Olav

... Beautiful lie? Attention! This is already creativity.

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18 Dec 97 15:58, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote to All:
[...]
TV> it was not the Pentagon!!!
That’s it..., everything is ok at the Pentagon.
TV> or have you heard crooked music before!!!
Yes, what I heard before was good music you can’t name it, but I heard something
better than what is now on AY...
TV> and having heard the normal one I decided that this was not it!!!
Normal for what, for the Pentagon?
TV> and good to run into!!!!! :-E~~
I'll stop attacking, but stop writing programs to the beat - to the beat, tailored
to the Pentagon! Think logically, having launched this somewhere other than the Pentagon, and
seeing the graphics and music slowing down, someone will look at it once and erase this
software :(
TV> or damn it’s impossible to talk about anything anymore?
Suggest your topic...

Oleg AKA Olav

... DEVICE=LIFE LOCKED@AGE25 HEALTH=PERFECT

>> OB>> That's what compatibility is all about!!!
>> VY> Are you saying that the number of clock cycles per line and pentagon
>> VY> is not standard? The only difference between the Pentagon and the standard Speccy
>> VY> is the extra eight lines per frame. On Scorpio, the timing of a line is
>> VY> something.
>> Until the Pentagon appeared, I had never encountered such a glitch as
>> slowdown of AY music! Doesn't it really give you some ideas...;)))

> TV> and good to run into!!!!! :-E~~
> I’ll stop attacking, but stop writing time-to-beat programs tailored
> to the Pentagon! Think logically, having launched this somewhere other than the Pentagon, and
> seeing the graphics and music slow down, someone will look once and erase this
> software :(

15 Dec 97 20:43, Oleg Bashtenko reported Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {HDD}:

OB> 1. SPECTRUM IS NOT ONLY DISTRIBUTED IN RUSSIA!

IMHO, as a “live” computer - only in Russia.

With warm regards, Glory!

JS>> cool thing, from the total 48 mode (when setting
JS>> the corresponding bit in #7FFD), you can programmatically return to the extended one.

AL> Pentagon is not bad for improvements, but arguing about the correct bus and
AL> the number of cycles in the interruption is useless, since branded cars in
this
AL> sense also had a lot of differences, so there is no friend to the taste and color.
(c)...

the Pentagon is turbocharged crap...

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TE> I didn’t see well, I didn’t work well, or it wasn’t the Pentagon!

I have, for example, 512k brains, IDE screw+IBM keyboard, HoneyComnder
resident (it crashes after a reset), now that’s work, but pent
is MD.

TE> coding for the Pentagon has become a tradition !

about demos again?

TE> go to Kharkov - they will convince you there ;-)))

and nothing good has come from there for a very long time...

>> in fact, the howling music arose BECAUSE of pentanone, and not HA
>> the Pentagon :) you need to know the history.

Once on December 18, 97 at 03:38, Vsevolod Potapov wrote to All...
...and here it’s skipped...
VK> Standard, AdnAkA!

VP> so such standards need to be cut. just like that.
You are wrong (c) .

JS> NMI

and on a scorp with GMX there are 128 screens.
Do these screens bring you any benefit? I wonder if the SMUC with a screw is more than
me, or the same amount?
Listen, here we are talking about _standard_ configurations, compare
the standard Pentagon and Scorpio, and you will understand what I mean.
So I can solder a video card to the scorpion svga, an accelerator on
ppc 603e, two mymics on the side and gravis ultrasound, cover the whole thing from above with a fan, and say: this is a scorpio. :)))
But seriously, the scorpion has much more reserves for development than the Pentagon. Here you have a free mounting field and a system
bus, and a lot of already existing peripherals that have nowhere to connect to the Pentagon - there is no connector.
The Scorpion has a full-fledged IDE interface, give me the specification,
I'll write you a CDROM driver for isdos, but what about the Pentagon?

VM> To support someone's buggy hard drive connection scheme? :). they are sharpening
new ROMs for old boards.
By the way, do you have an alternative to this screw connection scheme?
Today it is the best, and it is also quite well supported by software
in all Spectrum operating systems. Moreover, it can simply
be glued to the Pentagon, or to anything in general, that's what
it was made for. Small capacity screws now cost pennies, so
the time of hard drives has already come for us too.
Or do you think the Spectrum should be fdd_only forever? After all, even
the screw is connected to the BC.

VM>You don’t know, but some major programs contain code from address #4000
VM>to
^^^^^^^^^
There are also those that disable the ROM and contain code from address #0000, but
there are only a few such programs, and as a rule they also overwrite trdos
variables and with The disk drive works through the VG, so the screw is on the drum. Most of the memory below #6000 is not touched at all
and is loaded through #3d13, so they could take careabout
safety #5b5c. By the way, this is still a system variable,
you can’t get away from it, and writing a random value into it,
to put it mildly, is incorrect.
Such an example: even the ancient lexicon works on a stump, and the old lady
art studio works with a screw on Scorpio, but between the XT and the stump there is much
less in common than between the then Spectrum 128 and Scorpio.
But Lexicon and art studio have a very important feature in common: both of these programs are written correctly and _professionally_, and are not strictly tied to hardware from 1986. ^^^^^^^^^

VM>#FFFF, and the output goes to SCR-7? So in #5B5C there may be something worse than
VM>one in the third digit :) For example, in one in the fifth! Z8-[ ]

Shadow is not so stupid, and polls _only_ the third bit,
although on new boards (1996 and later) it was possible not to do this and poll the entire configuration hardware.
2All:
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PEOPLE!!! NOT FOR THE SAKE OF INTEREST, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ALL OF US!!! THINK
WHEN EVERYONE HAS A WINCHESTER WHAT PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT US!!! IF
WE DO NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT, THINK HOW MANY GLITCHES THIS WILL GENERATE! GLITCHES
MUST BE FIXED BEFORE THEY APPEAR!!! THINK SOMETHING Do you know how? ════════════════════════ ══════════════════
Ha thisвсе.
Jason

For “more clock cycles” the turbo can be turned on.
RST 8
DEFB #87 ;ON
......
RST 8
DEFB #88 ;OFF
If flag C=1 is returned, then the board is non-turbocharged.
As far as I know, the Scorpov makeshift exactly matches
it seems to be +2, and something else, angstrem it seems. But it wasn't taken out of thin air, that's for sure. Those. wait comes in one clock cycle when
memory accesses to the processor and ULA coincide. And +3 is generally two-field, and
in pages 1,3,5,7 there are no more than 55,000 clock cycles/int at all,
something like chip memory on the Amiga.
I really don’t remember exactly, correct me if anyone remembers.
And on +2 there is even port #1ffd, and from the Pentagon
OUT (#FD), A and +2 and all other branded machines freeze.
Try to run insult on a branded machine, you will see for yourself.
By the way, not a single branded machine has a transparent bus.
The transparent bus is on:
Pentagon
Profi (later versions)
ZX-next.
All other Spectrum-compatible to one degree or another
wait, and branded too.
There is a book ZX-FORUM 3, it's all written there.

Hello Max! In a message of Mon 13 Dec 10 17:44 Max Romanoff wrote to me:

VK(>> Insanity is a turboloader!!! I don’t have a disk drive! It’s broken!

MR> so, for the sake of people like you, we will make bootloaders in BASIC. A
MR> also, we will make programs for 16kb - you never know, who doesn't have memory
MR>...

why go to extremes? Like a little guy, honestly.
Only Microsoft writes its Windows in BASIC.
IMHO, #3d13 is optimal both in terms of compatibility and speed.
Besides, turboloaders often spoil floppy disks.
And you won’t understand, it’s tough. binding to hardware is very
bad! This is a lifetime 5.25 DS/DD drive and trdos 5.03 and nothing else! You can't install either 3.5, or SS/SD, or a hard drive, or a CDROM, and you can't even change the trdos version to a more advanced one. This is a brake on progress! one dubious plus: increased speed.

VK(>> written by individuals who like to call completely sane-
VK(>> general
VK(>> people senile.
MR> and will. for the sake of the 1st person (with a propeller) will suffer from the brakes -
MR> 20. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And if for 20 people with screws there is 1 person without a screw? Will we suffer together?
What a horror it is to suffer?- wait half a second more.
How did we live before? suffered it turns out...
2All:
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Hey 20 people! Who wants to flash trdos 5.06 for free?
And install hard drives for yourself! 40M - 15 USD ; 240M - 30 USD
What's next? Now 21 people will suffer from the brakes.
IMHO, 5.06 with a turbocharger is not compare.
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If 5.03 works slowly, then you need to install 5.06, and not do the work yourself.

VY>> Pentagon is not standard? The only difference between the Pentagon and the
VY>> standard Speccy is the extra eight lines per frame. On
VY>> Scorpio, the timing of a line is something.
OB> Until the Pentagon appeared, I had never encountered such a
OB> glitch as the slowdown of AY music! Doesn't it really give
OB> some thoughts...;)))

Firstly, I wrote about this (see above about 8 lines).
And secondly, find at least one branded game in which AY slows down on
the Pentagon.

Sincerely
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VY> Do you want to say that the number of clock cycles per line and pentagon
VY> is not standard? The only difference between the Pentagon and the standard Speccy is
VY> the extra eight lines per frame. In Scorpio, the timing of a line is something.

Damn, the Pentagon is not just the only one, it has differences from the company
- a lot. It’s not the same at all... the Pentagon is a wait-free machine, and
the real spec was slowed down when working with memory, in addition, the memory
was separate.

So, there’s no need to talk about the fact that the Pentagon is the most similar to the spec.
Everyone is alike. But no, those who have the ONLY difference...

the Pentagon has simply spread widely among us, that’s all. this is where his +
ends.

Good Luck...

... Windows working. Do you want (w)aiting or (s)leeping

VK0> tracing? And STS 6.0 knows.
~~~~~~~
What, is it already out?

Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

VK0> If the flag returns C=1, then the board is not turbocharged. As far as I know,
VK0> Scorpov's makeshift, it seems to exactly coincide with +2, and something else,
VK0> angstrem it seems. But it
VK0> was not taken out of thin air, that’s for sure. Those. wait comes in one clock cycle when there is a match

For most proprietary machines, wait was generated.

VK0> accesses to the processor memory and ULA. And +3 is generally two-field, and
VK0> in pages 1,3,5,7 there are no more than 55000 cycles/int at all, something
VK0> like a memory chip on the Amiga.
VK0> I really don’t remember exactly, please correct me if anyone remembers.

I didn’t know this, interesting information.

VK0> And on +2 there is even port #1ffd, and from the Pentagon OUT (#FD), A and +2 and
VK0> all other branded machines freeze.

+3 in my opinion the same port has additional addressing.

VK0> Try to run insult on a branded machine, you will see for yourself.

I imagine, it was enough to run the Codemaster games disketted by Titus
on the former Laptev machine (Spectrum128). It was just in vain that the controller was connected.
:-))))

VK0> By the way, not a single branded car has a transparent bus.

Perhaps (I can’t say for sure) there were cars with a transparent bus and
no waits. The Poles wrote demos on branded machines, and heShock,
imho, requires more clock cycles than Scorpio and Leningrad have. Although such
cars were very rare.

VK0> Transparent tire is on:
VK0> Pentagon
VK0> Profi (later versions)

All

>>> Until the Pentagon appeared, I had never encountered such a glitch
>>> as the slowdown of AY music! Doesn't it really lead to some
>>> thoughts...;)))

VP> in fact, the howling music arose BECAUSE of the pentanon, and not HA
VP> the pentagon :) you need to know the history.

yeah. everyone was trying to fill ints to the end, as a result, interruptions were skipped... and the music floated... it would kill...

Yes, it could have been bypassed. Putting music only on the int, and the rest
- outside. so no...

Good Luck...

... DOS = HIGH - Hmm. I knew it was on something ...

VM> IMHO, as a “live” computer - only in Russia.
I would not say so categorically... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oleg

... Mercenaries most faithfully support the myths.

AL> ~~~~~~~
AL> So, is it already out?
As I understand it, it’s out, but not for everyone yet... ;)))

Oleg

... “Are your thoughts free of duty?” - Yes, if they do not cross the boundaries.

> >>> Until the Pentagon appeared, I had never encountered such a glitch
> >>> as the slowdown of AY music! Doesn't it really make some people think
> >>> thoughts...;)))
>
> VP> in fact, the howling music arose BECAUSE of the pentanon, and not HA
> VP> the pentagon :) you need to know the history.
>
> yes. everyone was trying to fill ints to the end, as a result, interruptions were skipped... and the music floated... it would kill...

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

20 Dec 97 01:19, Max Romanoff wrote to Vladimir Yudin:
[...]
MR> Damn, the Pentagon is not only the only one, it has differences from the company
MR> - a lot. It's not the same at all... the Pentagon is a wait-free machine, and
MR> the real spec was slowed down when working with memory, in addition, the memory
MR> was separate.
^^^^^^^^^^
This is exactly what it is like on my computer...
MR> just a Pentagon It has spread widely among us, and that’s all. this is where his +
MR> ends.
And we have many other versions widely distributed, but not the Pentagon.
For example, I give a list of versions distributed among us -
"Lvov" "Orizon-micro" "Positron" "Orel"...
The penultimate one is a 100% copy of the branded one (at the hardware level), the last one
is rumored to be compatible with both the branded one and the Pentagon, but is extremely scarce.

Oleg AKA Olav

... The inscription on the monument sometimes sounds like a wanted notice.

VK(> in the extreme, why bother? How little, honestly.

no, this is your insanity. Damn, without a drive, but with a screw. Reminds me of
like: without pants, but with a jersey and a raspberry jacket.

VK(> IMHO, #3d13 is optimal both in terms of compatibility and speed.

for some, this doesn’t suit me.

VK(> Besides, turboloaders often ruin floppy disks.

No need to drive, please, yes?

VK(> And don’t you understand, being tightly tied to hardware is very
VK(> bad! This is a lifetime drive 5.25 DS/DD and trdos 5.03 and nothing
VK(> more! You can’t install neither 3.5, nor SS/SD, nor a hard drive, nor a CDROM, and

3`5 can be installed, and it will work. (if the drive is normal).
As for SS, you forgot about 40tracksSS disks.

This is insanity. There are even fewer people with non-standard drives than
people with hard drives. sorry,
I should have used normal DOS from the very beginning, then everything
was ok.

VK(> you can’t even change the version of trdos to a more advanced one. It

IS POSSIBLE!!! :EEEEE

VK(> a brake on progress! Turbo loaders have too many disadvantages and

a brake on progress is when tr-dos was chosen as a disk medium.

VK(> there is only one dubious plus: increased speed.

The plus is not dubious, but real, for people with disks,which
are the majority. And the loads are usually quite large.

VK(> And if for 20 people with screws there is 1 person without a screw? Will we
VK(> suffer together?

this will not happen. I would say, even - never.

VK(> That’s what everything is going for - the prices for screws are falling straight before our eyes, a
VK(> if <100M you can find it for nothing.

yes, but for this you need to have a scorpion and a controller, which together
cost money that the people don’t have, otherwise why wouldn’t they just buy it right away?

VK(> Suffer? To suffer? What a horror - wait half a second more.

sorry, you probably haven’t seen toys with numerous regular
downloads... hmm... I repeat once again that turbo loaders
for the majority of people with screws will pay money for versions
adapted, as they once did for floppy disks. are not capable.

VK(> How did we live before? We suffered, it turns out...

no, read above.

VK(> IMHO, 5.06 cannot be compared with a turboloader.

what can’t be compared?

VK(> put 5.06, and not do its job yourself.

damn, you just understand the principles of data transfer, which is why
why you don’t understand that turboloaders are invincible.

VK(> WE NEED TO FIX BEFORE THEY ARISE!!!

wow, why do we need a buggy screw?

VK(> What if it’s corrupted and well protected, then how? Should I devote the rest of my life to redoing buggy software?

if it’s for meIf it’s necessary for 10 more people, then yes. That's what I used to
do.

VK(> You, as an Amigaist yourself, know too well what it means “doesn’t
VK(> work with a screw.” But copy protection is one thing, and completely

I know about it... but I also understand why it was done this way. often
on the Spectrum and on the Amiga such things use non-system downloads
only because they were written in those days when there was little
memory and it was necessary to work without the system, i.e. indirectly
this applies to the ZX, because tr-dos places. very well
its variables...

VK(> another thing is an incorrect loader. How would you feel about the fact that
VK(> Mail manager would have to be loaded from a floppy disk and God forbid mail
VK(> to also be loaded from floppy disks? This cup has passed me by, Zed with the screw is OK,

I can do it. So what? It’s just worth it NORMAL DOS and program
SYSTEM, not a DEMO/TOY.

VK(> But the lexicon with art studio has a very important feature in common: both of these
VK(> programs are written correctly and _nprofessionally_, and do not have a rigid
VK(> connection to the hardware model from 1986. ^^^^^^^^^

yes? They work from tape, or what?!

VK(> And our would-be programmers think: it works for me, and so does my neighbor
VK(>, so it will work for everyone.

that’s exactly what it is.

VK(> It seems like your words: “there will always be people,who work with
VK(> hardware not as it should be, but as it turns out." And now you are indirectly supporting these people
VK(>.

I support the fact that if a person bought a screw, this person should have
BRAINS in order to deal with the difficulties about which he was
warned. If you can’t, pay money. Others will do it for you.

You understand, when the need arises for screw versions, they will
begin to be sold in the same way as disc versions now. Demand creates
supply.

VK(> There is no standard for turbochargers, everyone writes
VK(> for their own hardware, but everyone’s hardware is different! About the fact that our coders
VK(> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
VK(> we haven’t studied anywhere, and they often code “by touch”. most are the same: trdos.

VK(> the average size of the program is exactly this - 2-3 tracks, maybe a little
VK(> more, in general about 100-200 sectors. The time savings are scanty. No
VK(> you need to save on this.

yes, you haven’t seen life at all....

VK(> A in more global programs, for example in the zasm assembler, this
VK(> property is configurable. This is how it should be done. The user should not
VK(> be a slave to the bad habits of the programmer.

come on, write configurators for each program - suddenly
who has something different?

VK(> That is, inmenu in the Fast load item, put a checkmark - it works
VK(> VG driver, put a cross - it works through #3d13.
VK(> And if someone has a non-standard trdos, then this cross will save him.

and if there is no tr-dos? Then where is the checkbox put?

VK(> Then the echo came broken, (someone’s turboloader crashed) duplicate
VK(> your message, there seemed to be something significant there.

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Good Luck...

... Backups? We don' NEED no steenking backups.

VM> IMHO, as a “live” computer - only in Russia.

An absolutely wrong point of view. For that matter, there is no Spectrum in Russia
at all, there are only clones.

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

VM>> To support someone's buggy hard drive connection scheme? :). For example: I produce commercial software and want to protect it from being viewed by shadow users. Naturally, I read the 8th
page. Then I remember your words that programs should use
standard entry points and try to work with the disk through #3d13.
Unfortunately, I don’t have Scorpio, but, according to Raster, without system
variables the shadow monitor #3d13 will not work - that’s what MOA intended (?)

And what is the way out in this situation?

With warm regards, Glory!

PF> the Pentagon is turbocharged badly...

Due to the throttles working too fast?

VM> system variables of the shadow monitor #3d13 will not work - so
VM> conceived MOA (?)

without system variables tr-dos will not work work, even ordinary ones.

Good Luck...

... Has anything done more than MS-DOS to hold back progress?

I’ll say one thing about this: I had an old zone, expanded, and
with a weighted int on frame synchronization, as a result, multicolor
stripes coincided from top to bottom on many games, in particular in
some game, it was even visible border scroll. This says something
, if under Pent, our cool releasers, always multicolors
fixed...

PF> the Pentagon turbocharges sucks...

because it is a glitch from birth.

Good Luck...

... Will the information superhighway have any rest stops?

Sunday December 21, 1997 03:10, Max Romanoff wrote to Vsevolod Potapov:

MR> yes. everyone was trying to fill ints to the end, as a result, interruptions were skipped... and the music floated... it would kill...

MR> Yes, it could have been bypassed. Putting music only on the int, and the rest
MR> - outside. no...

There would be problems with synchronization to the screen... After all, the int will be
processed first, in this case, music? Or not?

MR> Good Luck...

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru

VM> Although new problems came with this board. For example: I release
VM> commercial software

It’s either, or.

VM> Unfortunately, I don’t have Scorpio, but, according to Raster, without
VM> system variables shadow monitor #3d13 will not work - so
VM> conceived MOA (?)

If you “emulate” TR-DOS on your hard drive, then how can you do it to another?
Give it to me, I'll do it.

VM> And what is the way out in this situation?

Actually, we are almost done - in GMX there is a mode in which only the standard four banks remain in memory (in
ROM): 128, 48, , tr-dos.

Andrew

VK> And you can determine the configuration on Scorpa with one command - pro-
VK> by reading the value from a special port.
VK> Question: why doesn’t the subroutine for entering the shadowbox do this -
VK> this should be asked from MOA, or I don’t know who else.

Well, you yourself answered:

VK> It’s just that this port was not on the old boards, so they are sharpening
VK> new ROMs for the old boards.

This configuration byte must be put on the stack, and then further processed
(is it available), then it simply tracks changes, and not, say,
remembers them.

Andrew

P.S. The word MOA must be written in capital _English_ letters, otherwise programs, and
then me, don’t see them.

Now, if someone did a fact on ZX NET, Otherwise it turns out:
There are Spectrums, there is a desire, Fido (for some), money for a modem, 'their own'
radio electronics.

It all comes down to the fact that there is no information :( And this is with a living FIDO :((( !

We don’t know how to approach this, what kind of modems, connection diagrams are needed, in
in general you need a FAQ!

And if you throw it into this echo, the spectrum will become a subject! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You are on the right road, comrades!

Long life and an easy death to you, Vyacheslav.
Uncombed from birth Holy BEECH
* Crossposted in ZX.SPECTRUM
* Crossposted in BAZIS.PVT

23 Dec 97 19:26, Max Romanoff wrote to Paul Falcon:
[...]
MR> because he is a glitch from birth.
And on this glitch they played demos on Inlights, and on FanTop they are going...:(

Oleg

... Remember: if a position cannot be defended, it can borrow.

TEV> probably because of the left-handed alterations ;( in replacing the buffer with IR22

No, I have never seen such an alteration, but the controls sometimes glitch. And what
do you achieve with this alteration?

MR> I will say one thing about this: I had an old zone, expanded, and
MR> with a weighted int on frame synchronization, as a result, multicolor
MR> stripes coincided from top to bottom on many In games, in particular in some kind of game, the border scroll was even visible. This says something
MR>, if under pent, our cool releasers, always multicolors
MR> fixed...

By the way, YES! I have all branded multicalories. The makeshift is normal, the scheme
works more stable than the others and can only be compared with Scorp and
Profi.

VM> is commercial software and I want to protect it from being viewed by shadow users. Naturally,
VM> I’m reading page 8.
Wow. The most reliable way, no matter what they say about using
RST #8.
VM> Then I remember your words that programs should
VM> use standard entry points and try to work with the disk through
VM> #3d13. Unfortunately, I don't have a Scorpio, but according to Raster, without

OB> And on this glitch they played demos on Inlights, and on FanTop
OB> they are going to...:(

nothing can be done, the Pentagon was the first disk machine to receive
mass distribution due to the fact that no one tried to protect
the scheme in any way...

Good Luck...

... Klingons do NOT sweat!

DG> There would be problems with synchronization to the screen... After all, first
DG> the int, in this case, music, will be processed? Or not?

no, the theme here is that on the internet there is only music and nothing
more. True, then you need to use the second buffering, or
fast players. as a last resort, do not stretch the procedures in the inte
more than 63000 cycles.

Good Luck...

... DATA to Picard: "No, Captain, I do NOT run WINDOWS."

AL> Board layout, you can’t think of anything worse. He is critical of things like rubbish. :-))))))

screw it... Big and ridiculous...

Good Luck...

... Windows Error 2.23x10^56: Program Too Cool.

OB> And on this glitch they played demos on Inlights, and on FanTop
OB> they are going...:(

For those who are especially persistent, I inform you that on FT there will be a Scorpio with a screw.
But according to the conditions, the author's program must work on a standard Spectrum.

Yours sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

VM> use standard entry points and try to work with the disk through
VM> #3d13. Unfortunately, I don't have Scorpio, but according to Raster, without
VM> system variables shadow monitor #3d13 will not work - that's how
VM> intended MOA (?)

Sat Dec 20 1997 20:00, Valerij Kozhevnik (095/462.18) wrote to Max Romanoff:

VK>                                                                       
VK> לאהי !!! Hו כןעשףפי עבהי, ב עבהי קףוט Hבף !!! נןהץםבךפו,
VK> כןחהב קיH‏וףפוע גץהופ ץ כבצהןחן ‏פן לאהי גץהץפ חןקןעיפר ן Hבף !!! וףלי
VK> םש Hו נעיהום כ ףןחלבףיא נןהץםבךפו ףכןלרכן חלאכןק פן נןעןהיפ! חלאכי
VK> Hבהן זיכףיפר ו‎ו הן פןחן כבכ ןHי קןתHיכHץפ !!!
VK>                                                                       
נֱׂ׳ֹּ״־ֿ !
ףױ׀ֵׂ-׳ִָֿ #3D13 - װֿ ּױֹֺ ׳ֱֱֹׂ־װ.
ף #3D13 ֱֲֿׂװְֱװ ֹ RAM-Disk-ֹ ־ֱ ף׀ֹׂ־װֵֵׂ, ֱ װֿ ׃ֻֿֿׂ׃װ״ ־ֱ ֽ־ַֿֿ ׳ֵ.
כ׃װֱװֹ, ֵ׃װ״ TR-DOS 5.04Em. י׃׀ּֿ״ױֵװ ִֿ׀ּֿ־ֹװֵּ״־ױְ ׀ֱֽׁװ״ Scorpion ֱֻֻ
RAM-Disk. פֿײֵ ֵֵׂ #3D13.

ף ױ׳ֱײֵ־ֵֹֽ, Ivan

Wednesday December 24, 1997 21:31, Max Romanoff wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

MR> no, the topic here is that only music hangs on the Internet and nothing else
MR> wait.

Wait. A simple test: suppose IM mode 2, the vector leads to address #F000, JP #0000 is there, interrupts are disabled. Let's execute the program:

EI
HALT
DI
JR $

What will happen? Will the machine hang or reset?

MR> True, then you need to use the second buffering, or
MR> fast players. As a last resort, do not stretch the procedures in the inte
MR> more than 63,000 cycles.

A regular player takes up to 2000-5000 cycles. If output to the screen is carried out
after playback, the problem will be due to the fact that the number of ticks of the player is not
constant.

VM>> without system variables the shadow monitor #3d13 will not work -
VM>> this is what MOA intended (?) And what is the way out in such a situation?
EM> Hang yourself. :)))

Hey. But it’s easier to use RST 8.

EM> MOA once told me that, for example, in Smukeo, interruptions from
EM> IBM peripherals can be caught only if you push very hard
EM> (I asked him about hayes)...

Smooth transition from monitor-debugger to modem...(.)

Yours truly, Vladimir Frunze AKA Hexman/BYTEX.
[Team ZX ASM] [Team Metallica] [Team Art Works]

24 Dec 97 10:21, Alexey Ivanov wrote to Oleg Bashtenko:
[...]
AI> But according to the conditions, the author's program must work on the standard
AI> Spectrum.
That is, on the Firm-version?

With the best...
Oleg AKA Olav

... Make toothless tyrants laugh prohibited.

DG> EI
DG> HALT
DG> DI
DG> JR $

DG> What will happen? Will the machine hang or reset?

hm... an interesting question... but I don’t understand which way.

The machine should hang.

DG> A regular player takes up to 2000-5000 cycles. If the output to the screen
DG> is carried out after playing, the problem will be that the number of
DG> clock cycles of the player is not constant.

the problem can be solved by using 2 screens.

Good Luck...

... (A)bort (R)etry (T)hreaten with Windows?

AH> Absolutely wrong point of view.

Anti-arguments, please...

AH> For that matter, there is no Spectrum in Russia at all, there are only
AH> clones.

These are the details.

Warm greetings, Slava!

TEV> and this was written in the turbocharger diagram, in case anyone forgot ;) in general
TEV> the further the letter is, the worse the controls will work when
TEV> turbocharged, as I understand it.

This is because in the Pentagon they are already at the limit. I don't have a turbocharger diagram. :-(((

VM> These are already details.

net, these are not details at all. This is the same as if you called a Cossack a Mercedes, but what? both are cars with wheels.

similar misconceptions existed not so long ago (now there are almost none) with
XEROXs. Those. everything that copies is a copier, regardless of
the manufacturer. Nowadays (and even then to a greater extent) they like
to say IBM, although what this refers to is not IBM in any
case, because not assembled at IBM factories.

The same applies to the Spectrum. What we have is a Spectrum
compatible computer. Clone. The same clone as any
PC-compatible computer.

the idea is clear?

Good Luck...

... Windows 3.1 - The best $129 solitaire game you can buy.

DG>> the number of clock cycles of the player is not constant.

MR> the problem is solved by using 2 screens.

Meaning? If interruptions are disabled in the main loop, then until it is executed, the situation will reach the “suspended” music in the same way, at the second interruption, that is, the music and
effects slow down. If you don't disable it in the main loop... well, I don't even want
to imagine what will happen if an interruption comes when the stack is on
the screen... just like in Sprinter (if they haven't fixed it) ;) In general, the most
beautiful solution to this problem seems to me to be the following: at the beginning of the demo we measure
the speed of the machine and, if there are not enough clock cycles, we slightly moderate our appetites - turn off
the music call (- 2000-5000 bars!), a couple of special effects... etc.

MR> Good Luck...

OB> That is, on Firm-version?

══════════╡ImportBegin FUNTOP╞════════════════════════════════
┌─────────────────────────┐
│ International Festival │
│ Computer Art │
│ "FunTop98" │
└─────────────────────────┘

Official information
about the festival, v1.0

[missed...]

Requirements for works submitted to the competition
───────────────────────── ──────────────────────

┌────────────┐
──── ─────────────────────┤ Demo compo ├─────────────────────────
└────────────┘

The works will be demonstrated on a computer with the following
configuration: Pentagon 128 (3.5 Mhz, 128K, TR-DOS 5.03/5.04T,
AY-3-8910/12, 5'25 DS/DD FDD)

[missing...]

══════════╡ImportEnd FUNTOP╞════════════════════════════════

There was also a phrase like: “Not required compatibility with other models or other
OS", but it was removed - they thought it was already clear ;)

Our opinion: such compatibility is, of course, a good thing, kind... But
its absence is not a violation of the requirements for the work.

OB> With the best...
OB> Oleg AKA Olav

AI>> standard Spectrum.

OB> That is, on Firm-version?

It should work on Pentagone ;)

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

VM> Anti-arguments, please...

Ukraine, Belarus, etc. ;)

__ With cre...@online.nsk.su
__/// Best 39:245/1.0@amiganet
\XX/ Regards 2:5000/28.19@fidonet

VM> Антиаргументы, плиз...

irc.stealth.net, /join #z80
comp.sys.sinclair
check "ZX" on da www.yahoo.com or any search site

26 Dec 97 01:26, Max Romanoff reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {HDD}:

MR> the same applies to the Spectrum. What we have is a Spectrum
MR> compatible computer. Clone. The same clone as any
MR> PC-compatible computer.

MR> the idea is clear?

Clear, clear - you’ve been pushing it for two years now :)

That is. You can’t talk about the Pentagon - Spectrum, about the hard drive - Winchester, about the modem - Hayes, about the copy machine - copier, etc. etc.
In fact, whoever wants to say so!

Warm greetings, Slava!

VM> Anti-arguments, please...

AH>> For that matter, there is no Spectrum in Russia at all, there are only
AH>> clones.

VM> These are already details.
But I know that in England many good sirs are ready
to part with twenty pounds for this noble device. ZX-48.

VM> Warm greetings,
VM> Slava!

VM> -+- MS GENS'98 beta v2.51.A0901++
VM> + Origin: -= Made by Copper Feet =- (2:5030/362.4)

Evgeny

They say you write Subj. When will the beta version be released? Here in Krasnoyarsk
spectrumists-Amizhniki can't wait. And many Amizhniks are probably
interested.

Happy New Year to all Spectrumists and Amizhniks!
(flopinet, you know, I may not make it later)

Vladimir Bogdanovitch.

VF> Monsieur, have you seen Scorpio? Why are you not satisfied with RST 8:DB #85h? Can
VF> give reasons for your statements regarding unreliability?
Hey, what are you doing? Have you forgotten that I am a Scorpio? :))) RST #8 is very
easy to bite out of the program... And if you don’t “bite it”, then somewhere I
had a program that “sits” in the shadow and ignores this very thing RST #8
: DB #85... This is firstly, and secondly - on some versions of the monitor
some "RST #8" lead to freezing...
Do you even know what kind of "tricks" you can do with the shadow? We, for example, did it in such a way that the shadow font was mixed up all the time.
Imagine, you press the “A” key, and any
characters fly out, and each time it’s different...

[.....]

VF>> Can you give reasons for your statements regarding
VF>> unreliability?
EM> Hey, what are you doing? Have you forgotten that I am a Scorpio? :))) RST #8 is very
EM> easy to snatch from the program...

Well, yes.. Is it more difficult to spoil a page?

EM> And if not “bite”, then somewhere I had a program that
EM> “sits” in the shadow and ignores this very thing RST #8 : DB #85...

Can it be.. in the echo?

EM> This is firstly, and secondly - on some versions of the monitor some
EM> "RST #8" lead to freezing...

On which ones? I think this is easy to find out. And what will the page you ruined
the good, kind Smakovites will tell you..

EM> Do you even know what kind of “tricks” you can do with the shadow?

Well, approximately..

EM> We, for example, did it in such a way that the font
EM> of the shadow was mixed all the time. Can you imagine, you press the “A” key, and all sorts of symbols fly out, and each time they are different...

Well.. there are no words.. Just emotions.. Teach, eh? Can you do anything useful? Or
at least protect yourself from it? And what you described as a defense, alas, does not look like...

DG> It’s interesting, after all, what will actually happen ;)

I can check. But laziness. So what SHOULD be?

DG> Meaning? If interruptions are prohibited in the main loop, then while it is not

the point is that as long as one screen is on the screen and the other is being drawn,
problems with torn graphics disappear. Those. the player hangs on the Internet, and
does not bother anyone else with its 5t. bars.

DG> will be executed, it will come to the “suspended” music in the same way, at the second
DG> interruption, that is, the music and effects slow down. If in the main loop there is no

no! watch your lips: the music is on the Internet, the code is outside the Internet. Music plays
always. The code generates graphics in a hidden screen, after finishing
work (let it skip at least 10 frames) - the screens change roles.

DG> prohibit... well, I don’t even want to imagine what will happen if
DG> the interruption comes when the stack is in the screen... just like in Sprinter

in, with a stack it’s already more interesting. This is where hemorrhoids begin. We need to
try to make code that can keep up with INT, or do some tricky math,
as Coopperfeet wrote. Those. data stack, with interruptions...

DG> (if they haven't fixed it) ;) In general, the most beautiful solution to this
DG> problem seems to me to be the following: at the beginning of the demo we measure the speed of the machine
DG> and, if there are not enough clock cycles, we slightly moderate our appetites - turn off the call
DG> music (- 2000-5000 bars!), a couplespecial effects... etc.

oh... the most beautiful solution is not to make dangerous movements...

Good Luck...

... C:\dos C:\DOS\RUN C:\DOS\RUN\WINDOWS C:\DOS\RUN\SLOW

VM> Clear, clear - you've been pushing it for two years now :)

so new people have appeared - they still say 'scanned
graphics from IBM' :))))

VM> That is. You can’t talk about the Pentagon - Spectrum, about the drive on the
VM> hard drive - a hard drive, about the modem - Hayes, about the copy machine
VM> - copier, etc. etc.

yes. everything has names. As for modems, no one really calls them hacks anymore. As for the screw, it has caught on...

$Winchester$

Informal generic term for sealed-enclosure magnetic-disk drives
in which the read-write head planes over the disk surface on an
air cushion. There is a legend that the name arose because the
original 1973 engineering prototype for what later became the IBM
3340 featured two 30-megabyte volumes; 30--30 became `Winchester'
when somebody noticed the similarity to the common term for a
famous Winchester rifle (in the latter, the first 30 referred to
caliber and the second to the grain weight of the charge). Others
claim, however, that Winchester was simply the laboratory in
which the technology was developed.

VM> In fact, whoever wants, says so!

yeah, only today it already looks like elementary illiteracy

Good Luck...

... If debugging is the process of removing bugs,
then programming must be the process of putting them in.

It’s easy (may MOA forgive me for underfilling :) - IT’S NECESSARY to determine whether you have Scorpio
or not. What if tomorrow Uncle Zonov changes the firmware???? Everyone hang themselves, and
in a minute!!

Warm greetings, Slava!

24 Dec 97 01:15, Ivan Mak reported by Valerij Kozhevnik (095/462.18) about {HDD}:

VK>> ═════════════════════════════════════
VK>> PEOPLE!!! NOT FOR THE SAKE OF INTEREST, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ALL OF US!!! THINK,
VK>> WHEN EVERYONE HAS A WINCHESTER WHAT PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT US!!! IF
VK>> WE DO NOT COME TO AGREEMENT, THINK HOW MANY GLITCHES THIS WILL GENERATE! GLITCHES
VK>> MUST BE FIXED BEFORE THEY APPEAR!!!
VK>> ════════════════════════════════════

Ivan, that's not what I'm talking about. and to the fact that Happy New Year to you (Peters company)!

And most importantly, Happy New Year to Sergei Zonov and the entire SCORPIO company! Evgeniy
Yuryevich (Velcome), Mikhail Akimov (LOGROS), the city of DOETSK, the city of EKATERIBURG, the city of KIROV, the city of KHARKOV, the city of MISK, the city of MOSCOW, the city of Kyiv too, the city of ROSTOV-O-DO, the city of MURMASK, the city of BARAUL, the city of YUSHKAR-OLA, the city LVOV, the city of
OVGOROD (as well as IZHIY OVGOROD), well, and all the other cities that exist except
St. Petersburg.
And, also the Australian kengoo-roo :))

With warm greetings, Slava!

or not. What if tomorrow Uncle Zonov changes the firmware???? Everyone hang themselves, and
in a minute!!

Warm greetings, Slava!

28 Dec 97 13:26, Evgeny Onishko reported Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {HDD}:

VM>> These are already details.

EO> But I know that in England many kind sirs are ready to part with twenty pounds for this noble device
EO> ZX-48.

Fat burghers with their fat sausages and wads of pounds sterling
idutt en north.

Warm greetings, Slava!

VF> Well.. no words.. Just emotions.. Teach, huh? Is it possible to do anything useful?
VF> Or at least protect yourself from it? And what you described for protection, alas, doesn’t look like
VF>..
Well then, try to hack the program that inserts a font-mixing block into the monitor... :)))
Protections, after all, they come in different forms... It’s possible, and not allowed to enter the shadow network, but
it’s possible not to be allowed to work normally with him. I once wrote a program that, when entering a shadowbox, clogs a bunch of bytes under the PC register. By the way, it's also a very good defense.
And in general, didn't I tell you that about two to a year and a half ago, we specialized in defenses? Both disk and “against hacking” (including
and against hacking with the help of a shadow server).

TEV> it’s possible, but sorry I can’t help with this diagram, it’s on paper,
TEV> and the scanner is a thing of the past ;(

They might get it for me in a day. Then I’ll throw it in if it’s it.

At 01:31, Wednesday December 31, 1997, it was such a thing that
Vyacheslav Mednonogov dashed off a letter from Ivan Mak:

VM> And most importantly, happy New Year to Sergei Zonov and the entire SCORPIO company!
VM> Evgeniy Yuryevich (Velcome), Mikhail Akimov (LOGROS), DOETSK city,
VM> EKATERIBURG city, KIROV city, KHARKOV city, MISK city, city
VM> MOSCOW, Kyiv city too, ROSTOV-O-DO city, MURMASC city, city
VM> BARAUL, YUSHKAR-OLA city, city LVOV, the city of OVGOROD (as well as IZHIY
VM> OVGOROD), well, and all the other cities that exist besides St. Petersburg.
God, Slava, what is your New Year's joke - to fucking demolish the support of the
Russian letter H and congratulate everyone?
VM> Oh, also the Australian kangoo-roo :). Megus of Brain Wave corp.

[Team ZX-Spectrum] [Team Agatha Christie] [Team Metallica] [Team Iron Maiden]

... Or are you unforgiven too?

Mr. Mednonogov doesn’t like our Western comrades ;)

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

> And most importantly, happy New Year to Sergei Zonov and the entire company SCORPIO! Evgeniy
Yuryevich (Velcome), Mikhail Akimov (LOGROS), the city of DOETSK, the city of EKATERIBURG,
>the city of KIROV, the city of KHARKOV, the city of MISK, the city of MOSCOW, the city of KIEV too, the city of
ROSTOV-O-DO, the city of MURMASC, the city of BARAUL, the city of YUSHKAR-OLA, the city LVOV, the city of
OVGOROD (as well as IZHIY OVGOROD), well, and all the other cities that exist except
>St. Petersburg.

this is all good, but for