FunTop98

Wednesday November 12 1997 21:19, Wladimir Bulchukey (095/462) wrote to All:

WB> Hello, Andrey! I'm very glad to hear your powerful voice with
WB> specific suggestions and support! Why are we silent? Just
WB> we work without unnecessary conversations. It is unlikely that the reader
WB> will be interested in who buys the ribbon cable and how much, how and on what
WB> the software is written, etc. Nevertheless, I am throwing in a clipping from Nicron61,
WB> telling about the last meeting of the Organizing Committee. There you will see
WB> and the nearest (completely everyday and routine) action plans.

Hu-Hu...

WB> We will show the demos in full, 10 minutes per demo. Each deme will
WB> be asked to evaluate on a 10-point system, and the winners will be
WB> determined by a simple sum of points. In terms of graphics and music, apparently
WB> will have to retain the principle of selecting work numbers for first,
WB> second and third place, despite all the shortcomings of this technique; otherwise
WB> is hardly possible due to the large number of works, of which there is already
WB> now there is no doubt (!).

Enlight had a very convenient votelist (thx2maxi), so there is no need to reinvent
the wheel, evaluating each demo is stupid and impractical.

WB> The parameters of real-time effects in demos will need, as
WB> and before, to be adjusted to"Pentagon-128". This has already become a tradition
WB> and we see no reason to break it. Although there are plans to organize
WB> a “free nomination” at the Festival - at least for 14 MHz, at least for 1
WB> megabyte... Only then bring a computer with you, without
WB> emoticons! But we'll talk about this later...

All over the world it's called Wild compo...

WB> Here, people, read it more carefully; artists - try ideas
WB> about the logo!

The name is _super idiotic_ None of the major artists will want to
play this... Change the name.

WB> Work has already begun on the music player and graphics demonstrator
WB>, so that during rehearsals we can observe everything as it will
WB>.

Who makes it? Have you at least attracted really elite Muscovite spektrumists to create your “festival” (that word is so stupid...)?
Progress, Xtreme (Moscow HQ)??? How are you going to do a stage demo party
without the slightest idea of ​​the stage? Or engage in samizdat again?
Organize a drinking party on a Russian scale...

AM>> Paid entry is the way out ;)
AM>> 10-20 rubles will not be a hindrance.

WB> We are now thinking about paid entry. It will create a
WB> prize fund, and this is essential. IMHO, 20 new rubles is still
WB> expensive. Probably 5-10We will accept it as a working version. As for Muscovites, many take an active part in WB preparation and, in particular, spend money on it. And for
WB> viewers, of course, the conditions will be the same.

Paid admission is a mandatory condition (immediately after the name change).
In general, has anyone here declared the universality of the organization? And all decisions
are made behind the backs of potential participants.

AM>> It would not be bad if
AM>> beer was sold directly in the school cafe

WB> ...I remember somewhere in the PC press they wrote: “Beer blocked
WB> the path to Enlight'97.” Let's not step on these very
WB> painful and already passed rake. It will not be allowed to be at the party while
WB> drunk.

This is a big minus. Without beer it will be difficult to communicate. Damn, it's a blast Random
solved this problem in his information book.

WB> But outside the party - good luck. Alexey Ivanov, for example, without
WB> any emoticons, offers to book a group excursion on a
WB> motor ship along the Moscow River (this is not a sea cruise, so it is not
WB> expensive). And Muscovites will buy beer for this purpose at the wholesale market, then
WB> it is also inexpensive.

For someone to fall into the river while drunk? =)
Alex, we should put a life jacket on everyone=)

WB> I urge all future participants not to disturb the order in the
WB> Festival hall. Remember that beer will not leave you anywhere, just
WB> everything has its place and time. And we will take care of the usual buffet.

Beer and hot dogs.

AM>> Moderation of work, for those who have
AM>> access to fido/inet

WB> With all hands (with both hands, it seems... ;-) ) - for! We've been talking about this
WB> from the very beginning. I will repeat our reminder once again, for
WB> those who have newly subscribed to the echo: preliminary registration of works
WB> will allow you to find out the number of participants and guests, will give
WB> the opportunity to detect broken programs,

And if the work is ready 12 hours before the compo? This is normal, there is no need for shouts like
“it’s possible in advance.” Demo-making is an art, but in art it’s so bad... =)

WB> will give us time to assemble festival discs (imagine:
WB> you are offered on the same day to buy floppy disks with all
WB> works, with a special “branded” boot, etc. And then
WB> you don’t have to painfully surf through ftp in search of software).

Maybe immediately with the results? Do you ever think that a bunch of so-called party releases will arise? It is not recommended to distribute them, because... this is essentially a demo version... And such things will happen.

WB> Knowing in advancenumber of works in each genre, we will calmly and
WB> confidently calculate the time of their display, prepare questionnaires for
WB> voting in the optimal form; perhaps, with a large influx of
WB> graphics/music, you will have to sift out something :-( or at least
WB> sort...

You won’t even get half of it in advance, I’m telling you that for sure.

AM>> Demo 5 min

WB> Ten. 5 is not enough.

It’s funny. As long as it goes, so much goes, just write in the rules: style like da
trackmo. And whoever does the extended one will pay with fatigue and disgust
voters.

AM>> 4k intro

WB> Hardly a popular genre... We are not planning such a nomination yet. But
WB> if there are time reserves, then who knows, who knows...

Damn, the most progressive genre is being killed... We need 0 more bytes of intro and Wild compo.

AM>> Realtime coders 3 hours

WB> It will not be. There is no possibility.

Why not? Simultaneously with music & gfx compos.

AM>> Prizes: To give or not to give?
AM>> It is better to give, although it can be limited to diplomas...

WB> Certificates (or diplomas) will definitely be
WB> promised this, because he is an excellent computer scientist. designer of
WB> printed publications. Printing will be at the highest level. Plus
WB> fame in the world through WWW, online publications, echoes, etc.always.

You can't put fame in your pocket... Especially for those who already have it, and even
in moderation... =)
Prizes are the third most important item after changing the name, introducing beer with
paid entry.

RP>> Verbal Diarrhea - Demo on FunTop'98
RP>> the best coders, artists and musicians
RP>> will work on it!
RP>> it will be RULEZ-Z-z-z-z...

WB> Well, what can I say to this? Just two words:
WB> 1. Good luck!!!
WB> 2. Welcome!

WB> ...We wish the same to everyone else!

Sorry for being annoying =)

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

Exactly, they’ve already banned it once and what happened?
What happened is that the people at the party are “smart” and always ready
to show their “mind”, so sneaking another can of say “Pepsi” will not be a problem for them
and in general many will drink beer outside the party

WB> Being drunk at a party condition will not be allowed.
And how will you determine this very condition, what is the criterion?

WB> And we will take care of the usual buffet.
I’m actually a non-drinker and in theory I need to shout out louder than anyone
beer, but you guys are making a serious mistake by banning it, if you really want to
good, then sell beer on tap...

AH> Who makes it? Have you at least attracted really elite
AH> Muscovite spektrumists to create your “festival”
AH> (what a stupid word...)?
Kano? ;))).
it’s generally better to remain silent, well, at most, such a program will occupy 128 bytes.

AH> And how are you going to make a stage demo party without the slightest
AH> idea of the scene?
And what about the echo?
If I’m not mistaken, you have an idea of the scene, so help me...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Magicki ;) Ha-ha... If the elite are in
the past. They blamed it on the Amiga, selling it
at inflated prices to uninformed
Sinclairists, while claiming that
Spectrum is dead - it’s time to change the platform.

In general, almost every “non-lamer” can join the organizers. And even more so celebrities. From the PGS side, as I understand it, no one expressed a desire to join
the organizers, and the magicians don’t want to.

AH> How are you going to make a stage demo party without the slightest
AH> idea about the stage?

Nu-nu

AH> Or do you start doing samizdat again? Organize a drinking party on a Russian
AH> scale...

Already now the organizing committee includes 11 people (against one on Inlight), and
they are not sitting idly by. It is already clear that everything will be organized an order of magnitude better than on the E97. The traffic in LAN 689.FUNTOP, organized for this occasion, is
comparable to ZX.SPECTRUM's (up to 80 messages per day without yue).

VP> how do you imagine FUN TOP - what image does it bring to your
VP> head? now draw ;))))) the name of the party must have an original
VP> image in the mind. (2Arty :)) For example - Gathering, Enlight, etc.
VP> Beautiful images!

How do you imagine Chaos Constructions? ;) Whoops...

AM> Exactly, they’ve already banned it once and what happened?
AM> But it turned out that the people at the party are “smart” and always ready
AM> to show their “mind”, so sneaking another can of say “Pepsi”, for them
AM> it won’t be a problem, and in general many will drink beer outside the party

There are no plans to ban beer... Everyone can calm down ;)

WB>> Being drunk at a party will not be allowed.
AM> How will you determine this very state, what is the criterion?

Well, the questions are straight from 689.FUNTOP ;) There is a time for everything, what else can you say. Don't rush things. We'll tell you everything, we just need to come to a final
decision on each issue...

SN> To be honest, we haven’t decided anything specific on this issue yet.
SN> So don’t despair. Blessed is he who believes ;))
Well, decide, at least Realtime coders, I'm not talking about graphics and
music's, and I can only dream about realtime.hackers-crackers:

R E A L T I M E H A C K E R S - C R A C K E R S

C O M P O __ _ _
|___|_ |_||_|
| |____||_|

Each participant brings with him his own defense, which will be encrypted with some
cipher word.
After the referee's whistle, hackers begin to frantically break the opponent's defense,
Whoever breaks it first wins...
I’ll say right away that the picture is the same as the picture, I saw it myself how they break defenses,
it _simply_ in general_ sometimes even reaches the point of absurdity, like the usual command:
LD A, 199
LD (23455), A
and after it for some reason the sts is reset... :))
In general, I once brought a person to the point of absurdity, outwardly it looked like this
the person reaches this command, looks not point-blank for a minute presses shift+z
bang everything resets 8-|
, well, it’s the same story again 8-O
the same thing, but only with shift+t 8-{|}
the same, but with the new sts 8-[ ], too, but with the old sts %-|
the same, but on a different computer%-E
also, but on an emulator %-)
In general, after that he forgot what Spectrum assembly was =)

With respect, Andrey Mihaylow

:))) that's the only reason why I chose this name. I have a strong image of these
sort of constructions ;)))) Great name, great image, great future....

Regards,
Random
--
Lord of Chaos.
e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/

SN> 1 day. Enough. Moreover, we can finish it in half a day. There are no amigas here,

yeah, maybe you can finish it in an hour? Hehe, I'd like to see how you can't get it done in a
day... just for fun ;)

SN> not a piss... Not life, but honey... And no queues for registration for
SN> half a day.

ah, well, yes, if there is only one demo from Moscow, then there will definitely be no queues
. (no one will come).

SN> There are no plans to ban beer... Everyone can calm down ;)

Pogroms can be arranged, right?

Good Luck...

... 3.141592653589793238462643383279502883197116939937510... I forget the rest

AH> Uh-huh. Assembly, Intel Outside, Rage, Antiq, Bizzare, The Party, Amiganica,
AH> Center, Scenest, Xyear - so many wonderful and stylish names!

Well, what do you immediately associate with each name? What image is in your head?
Stupidity, IMHO.

PS: Well, The Party is a good name, but FT is a bad one ;)) Strange taste and
protection against caries ;) (c)

AH>> Amiganica, Center, Scenest, Xyear - how many beautiful and stylish
AH>> names!
SN> Well, what do you immediately associate with each name? What image is in
SN>'s head? Stupidity, IMHO.
SN> PS: Well, The Party is a good name, and FT is a bad one ;)) Strange
SN> taste and protection against caries ;) (c)
Let's try to combine them and what we get: PARTYFUN'98
The new party fan movement is calling to the computer jungle !
:)))))

With respect Andrey Mihaylow

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Artem Haritonov to
Vsevolod Potapov Fri Nov 14, 1997 at 22:35...

VP>> and now draw ;))))) the name of the party should have an original image
VP>> in the mind. (2Arty :)) For example - Gathering, Enlight, etc. Beautiful
VP>> images!
AH> Yep. Assembly, Intel Outside, Rage, Antiq, Bizzare, The Party, Amiganica,
AH> Center, Scenest, Xyear - so many wonderful and stylish names!

I especially liked the last one. :) I read it in Russian. F-)

2Moderator: sorry, I couldn’t restrain myself. :)

With all kinds of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... Sometimes nothing is so far from honor as the honor of the uniform.

[skip]

AS> We should have some fun ourselves and so that the Spectrum would benefit, i.e.
AS> of course the opposite :)

Yes, it seems to me that we should have some fun It was a great success both this year and last year. True, it all looked like a drinking party of a group
of youngsters who, left without the supervision of their parents, decided to become
'cool'...

And if they organize something like this at that school, I think they will not only complete everything in half a day
, but will also end up doing well. I mean - rows of drunken
*spectrumists* (well, maybe a couple of Amizhniks sleeping in
nightstands ;), vomited sartirs (after all, drinking, as I understand it -
no one wants to ban), a pile of garbage... You can also add
scribbled on the walls... (not what you thought, but just
painted...)

Good Luck...

... What has four legs and an arm? A happy pit bull.

15 Nov 97 04:09, Sergei Novikov reported by Artem Haritonov about {FunTop98}:

AH>> The name is _super idiotic_
SN> Quite normal. IMHO. When I asked in the echo if anyone could offer
SN> better, someone only named TopFun ;l, no proposals were received from you
SN>.

On the same day when you asked this, in the echo there was an answer from A. Ivanov (I have
all the moves written down :))

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─ ZX.SPECTRUM (2:5030/362.4) ───────────────────────────────────── ZX.SPECTRUM
From : Alexey Ivanov 2:5020/689.100 19 Oct 97 00:30:28
Subj : FunTop98
───────────────────────────────── ─────────────────────── ───────────────────────
/skip/

VM> d) is the name already final?

I don’t think that after the official document, anything will be changed.
I don’t know who came up with the name.

/skip/

=== Cut ===

That is. the name was approved long before this. And even who invented it -
is unknown :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

(further filled with spaces...)

Well, maybe it’s worth thinking about in all seriousness :))
Elements of the SHOW will not interfere with the subject...

>With respect, Andrey Mihaylow

With best wishes, Ars^FTL.
mailto:ars...@usa.net

... this It’s not for you to trace the Eldir

AM> Let's try to unite them and what will we get: PARTYFUN'98
AM> The new Partifan movement is calling to the computer jungle!
AM> :)))))

you can simply, and capture the reality of things:

1. fundrunk
2. drunktop
3. topdrunk
4. drunksuck

:)

Good Luck...

... Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue...

AM>> Let's try to unite them and what will we get: PARTYFUN'98 New
AM>> the Partyfan movement is calling to the computer jungle! :)))))

MR> you can simply, and showing the reality of things:

MR> 1. fundrunk
MR> 2. drunktop
MR> 3. topdrunk
MR> 4. drunksuck

MR> :)

These are the secret names of Enlight, why didn’t you disclose them before? :-)))

Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

SN> It’s a shame, yes, for the failure of the St. Petersburg party? Do you want to have a blast with others?

failure? It's a shame? What are you talking about?

SN> PS: Tweet. You don't have to write anymore.

great.

Good Luck...

... By the way, what does BTW mean?

AL> These are the secret names of Enlight, why didn’t you disclose them before?

net, these are the names of SINCLAIR’S demo parties. Why? Because:

1. Sinclair is the car of young people
2. Young people don’t know how to drink.
3. Despite point 2. - they try.

Good Luck...

... "If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good." - Bill Gates

AL>> disclosed?

MR> net, these are the names of the SINCLAIR demo parties. Why? Because:

MR> 1. Sinclair is the car of the young
MR> 2. The young don’t know how to drink.
MR> 3. Despite point 2. - they are trying.

4. They do it well.

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

MR> Alex ÂçR çê úçRÏ"?
MR> ... aúüË çê åaÁÁÖa êùaÏ Ë-ü -åR Re: FunTop98 ?
AL>> üçR ÁüÖåüç-êü -a ùa-"ì å-Ïacça, a úçR |ü çê "ö åa-Hëü -ü åaÁøÏaëaÏ?
MR> net, ÂçR -a ùa-"ì óéHëìåPï÷óëéè üËR--aç". ðRúüËa? ðRçRËa:
MR> 1. ó"-ÖÏüå - Ëaë"-a ËRÏR êö
MR> 2. íïÏR êü -"çH -ü aËüíç.
MR> 3. HüÁËRçåì -a -.2. - ÁçaåaíçÁì.
ôÙ ÎÅ ÍÏÇ ÂÙ ÎÁÓÔpÏÉÔØ ÎÁËÏÎÅà Golded ÉÌÉ ÞÔÏ y ÔÅÂÑ ÔÁÍ ÓÔÏÉÔ ÞÔÏÂÙ Ô×ÏÉ
ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÞÉÔÁÔØ ÎÏpÍÁÌØÎÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ...

Vi imho

... Zed's Dead,Baby,Zed's Dead ...

AI> 4. They do it well.

Yes, only because of point 2 - (no experience) it ends badly.

Good Luck...

... Reproduction is strictly prohibited.

MR>> Alex bGR GY ZGRo"?
MR>> ... aZEk GY Eaaaja YYao k-E -ER Re: FunTop98 ?
AL>>> EGR aEzheEEG-YE -a Ya-"L E-oacGa, a ZGR |E GY "ZH Ea-HKE -E EaaaaKao?
MR>> net, bGR -a Ya-"L SINKLER EkR--aG". akEMG.
MR>> 3. HEakRGEL -a -.2. - aGaEaMGaL.
VS> Could you finally set up Golded or whatever it is you have so that
VS> your letters can be read normally...

I don’t know what’s wrong with *you*, but I’ve had everything set up as
needed for more than a year now, and I DO NOT HAVE GOLD.

p.s. I will refrain from commenting about the pe=tse.

Good Luck...

... Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!

MR>> Alex ÂįR įę úįRÏ"?
MR>> ... aúüË įę åaÁÁÖa ęųaÏ Ë-ü -åR Re: FunTop98 ?
AL>>> üįR ÁüÖåüį-ęü -a ųa-"ė å-Ïacįa, a úįR |ü įę "ö åa-Hëü -ü åaÁøÏaëaÏ?
MR>> net, ÂįR -a ųa-"ė óéHëėåPïũóëéč üËR--aį". ðRúüËa? ðRįRËa:
MR>> 1. ó"-ÖÏüå - Ëaë"-a ËRÏR ęö
MR>> 2. íïÏR ęü -"įH -ü aËüíį.
MR>> 3. HüÁËRįåė -a -.2. - ÁįaåaíįÁė.
VS> ôŲ ÎÅ ÍÏĮ ÂŲ ÎÁÓÔpÏÉÔØ ÎÁËÏÎÅÃ Golded ÉĖÉ ÞÔÏ y ÔÅÂŅ ÔÁÍ ÓÔÏÉÔ ÞÔÏÂŲ
VS> ÔŨÏÉ
VS> ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÞÉÔÁÔØ ÎÏpÍÁĖØÎÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂŲĖÏ...

:-))))))))))))))))

ó ÕŨÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

MR>>> Alex bGR GY ZGRo"?
MR>>> ... aZEk GY Eaaaja YYao k-E -ER Re: FunTop98 ?
AL>>>> EGR aEzhEEG-YE -a Ya-"L E-oacGa, a ZGR |E GY "ZH Ea-HKE -E EaaaaKao?
MR>>> net, bGR -a Ya-"L SINKLER EkR--aG". akEMG.
MR>>> 3. HEakRGEL -a -.2. - aGaEaMGaL.
VS>> Could you finally set up Golded or whatever you have there so that
VS>> your letters can be read normally...

VS> see above

Look at least below, everyone except you could see it normally.

VS> Refrain...

But this is not in your favor.

Good Luck...

... Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice.