FunTop98

ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»

From Alexey Ivanov To All 11 October 1997


Hi All!

The following document was scanned and translated into text using
FineReader 3.00 Pro.

The original contains signatures, the text is certified with the official seal.


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PROTOCOL OF INTENT

We, the undersigned, are the director of the Experimental Secondary School 91 Russian Academy of Education Lyuka-
rev Mikhail Aleksandrovich and an employee of school 91, also Coordinator of the Moscow Telecommunications Network ZXNet (095). Bulchukei Vladimir Vladimirovich - we inform you of the intention to hold the International Festival of Computer Art 1998
"PunTop98" in the school premises in August 1998.

The school administration provides an
school assembly hall for the day of the Festival.

Responsibility for public order, safety of property,
sanitary The condition of the premises provided for use during the Festival is taken upon by V.V. Bulchukei.

The exact date of the Festival will be determined later. The preliminary date is one of the weekends in the second half of August
1998.

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The administration of the Experimental Secondary School
91 RAO reserves the right to use the Festival for advertising the school, promoting the achievements of pedagogical science.

From the experimental sidesecondary school M.A. Lyukarev
(director)

On the part of the Organizing Committee of the Festival
"FunTop98" - V.V. Bulchukei
(Chairman of the Organizing Committee: Coordinator ZXNet (095) )

October 9, 1997

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This alternative E. I had to change the name. I think that it won’t be worse - we also have our own Web pages on the Internet.


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Alexey Ivanov To All 11 October 1997


(Director)

On the part of the Organizing Committee of the Festival
"FunTop98" - V.V. Bulchukei
(Chairman of the Organizing Committee: Coordinator ZXNet (095) )

October 9, 1997

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This is an alternative E. I had to change the name. I think that it won’t be worse - we also have our own Web pages on the Internet.


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Alex Mikhailov To All 12 October 1997


A big hello to you, dear Alexey!


Sat Oct 11, 1997, at 02:33, Alexey Ivanov wrote to All:

AI> The document below was scanned and converted into text via
AI> FineReader 3.00 Pro.

It seems that the ice has broken. It’s not in vain that I spoke here - I touched a nerve among Muscovites - this, in general, was my main goal, because it is already clear that P. Sobolev is unlikely to take up E98, and we (5030) probably have no one else to organize such an event.

You have started a great job, guys. All that remains is
to wish you good luck. Let's meet at the subject. ;)

Best wishes, Arno from Omega group.


From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 13 October 1997


Get Msg, Alexey!

11 Oct 97 02:33, Alexey Ivanov reported All about {FunTop98}:

AI> Administration of the Experimental Secondary School
AI> 91 RAO reserves the right to use the holding of the Festival-
AI> for advertising the school, promoting the achievements of pedagogical science.

All administrations of "educational institutions" on this one comes across: first
Korabelka, then Voenmekh, Ter 91st school in Moscow. They think it’s an advertisement, but what comes out is
only tears :((

Warm greetings, Slava!


From Evgeny Milun To All 13 October 1997


Hello Alexey !

Saturday October 11 1997 01:32, Alexey Ivanov ─── All:

AI> === Cut ===
AI> PROTOCOL OF INTENT
[.....]
AI> === Cut ===
AI> This is an alternative to E. I had to change the name. I think it won’t get any worse -
AI> We also have our own Web pages on the INTERNET.
That’s another conversation...

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.


From Vsevolod Potapov To All 13 October 1997

But I was wondering, did you do this on purpose so that people
would choose between Enlight or FunTop? It was humanly impossible to make it so that ppl could go to both? otherwise half will go to Enlight
- half to FunTop. nothing useful will come of it IMHO. there is a little there and
a little here. And it would be possible to do it like people do - two global
demo parties a year. (of course both in summer, although you can do it in winter too).

Regards,
Random,
Lord of Chaos.

e-mail: ran...@cybermail.net

Concern Chaos WWW HQ: http://www.cybermail.net/~random/
The Speccy Zone :
http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/motorola/134/index.html
Cha0s Files :
http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/motorola/146/index.html


From Alexey Ivanov To All 14 October 1997


Hi All!

Mon 13 Oct 1997 01:19, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Alexey Ivanov:

VM> All the administrations of “educational institutions” come across this
VM>: first Korabelka, then Voenmekh, Ter 91yashkola
VM> of Moscow. They think it’s advertising, but what they get is nothing but tears :((

It was possible to agree with the administration of some brewery about their
club, but almost all of our breweries are outside the city ;)


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Alexey Ivanov To All 14 October 1997


Hi Alex!

Mon 13 Oct 1997 00:31, Alex Mikhailov wrote to Alexey Ivanov:


AM> it seems the ice has broken. It’s not in vain that I spoke here - I touched a nerve
AM> among Muscovites - this, in general, was my main
AM> goal,

No, well, did you see the impudent guy?
Everything had been done for a long time and the equipment had been resolved, they just didn’t talk about it until they received the
official document. Maybe you will also become a member of the
organizing committee?


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov


From Alexey Ivanov To All 14 October 1997

VP> But I was wondering, did you arrange this on purpose so that
VP> people would choose between Enlight or FunTop? It was not possible to humanly make it possible for ppl to go to both? otherwise
VP> half will go to Enlight and half to FunTop. nothing
VP> useful IMHO will work. a little there and a little here. And so
VP> it would be possible to do it like people do - two global demo parties in
VP> a year. (of course, both in the summer, although it is possible in the winter too).

I really hope the organizers will answer this question.

An Amiga will not be in Moscow anyway ;)


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Sergei Novikov To All 14 October 1997

VP> But I was wondering, did you specially arrange this for the people
VP> to choose between Enlight or FunTop?

;)) You need to be aware of events... There will be no E98.


With God's blessing, Novikov Sergei AKA Spirit/STEP

... Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my Soul to keep.

From Vsevolod Potapov To All 15 October 1997

From Max Lanskih To All 15 October 1997

AI> It was possible to come to an agreement with the administration of some brewery about their
AI> club, but almost all of our breweries are outside the city ;)
So that’s just it. He left, and no one sees, no one hears this crowd of people.

Max.! __ __ ! __! __! __
LMS !( )(__ !(__!!__) ! (__( (_!_)
________) !___ !___

From Alex Kovrigin To All 15 October 1997

SN> ;)) You need to be aware of events... E98 will not be.

But in this, neither you nor I can be 100% sure.

__ With cre...@online.nsk.su
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\XX/ Regards 2:5000/28.19@fidonet


From Alexey Ivanov To All 15 October 1997


Hi All!

Here is what we have found out so far:

- beer _is not_ included in the category of alcoholic beverages prohibited at the Party.

- security and security service will be professional, with all the ensuing
consequences (private security).

- with rare exceptions (lack of email facilities and addresses in FIDO),
pre-registration of work will be carried out in compliance complete
confidentiality.

- end of the first day of the festival and the second day - official cultural ;)
program starting immediately after summing up.

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Max Romanoff To All 15 October 1997


Sergei is that you?
...why did you tell Vsevolod Potapov about FunTop98?

SN> ;)) You have to be aware of events... E98 will not be.

did you kill the codripper?

Good Luck...


... Windows Error 015: Unable to exit windows. Try the door.

From Alex Letaev To All 16 October 1997

AK> But in this, neither you nor I can be 100% sure.

Yes, but why did the organizers throw the message that next time we'll screw it.....??? To organize fortune-telling in the echo, or to act? If
the organizers wrote “no”, then read “no”, there will be other
organizers in 5030, this will not be called an inlight.

With respect, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.


From Alexey Ivanov To All 16 October 1997

AI>> brewery about their club, but almost all of our breweries are outside
AI>> outside the city ;)

ML> So that’s the same thing. He left, and no one sees, no one hears
ML> this crowd of people.

If the crowd does not go to the brewery, the brewery will go to the crowd ;)
These are already plans for 99.


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

From Alex Kovrigin To All 16 October 1997

AL> Yes, but what for then did the organizers throw out the message that next time we will well
AL> screw it.....??? To organize fortune-telling in an echo, or to act?

That’s right, you don’t need to guess and confirm something,
but you can act regardless of their answer.

From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 17 October 1997


Get Msg, Alexey!

15 Oct 97 19:50, Alexey Ivanov reported to All about {FunTop98}:

AI> - beer _is not included_ in the category of alcoholic
AI> drinks prohibited at the Party.
AI> - security and security service will be professional, with all
AI> ensuing consequences (private security).

Mutually exclusive points?

AI> - the end of the first day of the festival and the second day - the official cultural
AI> ;)
AI> program that begins immediately after summing up the results.

This is buzz, but I would like to clarify:

a) what will happen with housing (according to the St. Petersburg system? Or sleep right in the gym
mentioned school?)
b) is it true that you can eat in Is it twice as expensive in Moscow as, for example, in St. Petersburg?
c) what does the pleasure of riding St. Petersburg->Moscow and back cost? and by plane?
;)
d) it is believed that all components will be completed in less than a day?
e) the name is already final?
f) I hope the promised ship on the 2nd day FT98 has already been chartered? <-joke :)


By the way, I remembered an old presentation by F. Peters, held in one of the St. Petersburg schools. A distinctive feature was the presence of a large number of local schoolchildren. I have nothing against it, but the director should be warned about the possible corrupting influence of the party participants on his children ;))


Warm greetings, Slava!


From Alex Mikhailov To All 17 October 1997


Tue Oct 14 1997, at 07:35, Alexey Ivanov wrote to Alex Mikhailov:

AI> No, well, have you seen the impudent person?
AI> Everything has been done for a long time and the equipment has been decided, they just didn’t talk about it until they received
AI> the official document.
AI> Maybe you will also become a member of the organizing committee?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

here's more.

From Sergei Novikov To All 18 October 1997


Hiya Vyacheslav! Answering a message marked with the following:
From: Vyacheslav Mednonogov (2:5030/362.4); To: Alexey Ivanov;
Date: Friday, 10/17/97; Time: 03:58; Subj: "FunTop98"

VM> b) is it true that eating in Moscow costs twice as much as, for example, in
VM> St. Petersburg?

Lies. Although it depends where :) But the prices are almost the same (the difference is 10 percent,
IMHO).

VM> c) what is the pleasure of riding from St. Petersburg to Moscow and back? and
VM> by plane? ;)

By train, it seems, 60 pieces one way.

VM> d) it is believed that all the components will be completed in less than a day?

If you weed out DAFs, pictures in the style of “gouge out” and Mouzons a la WHAM, then yes.

VM> d) the name is already final?

Can someone come up with a better idea?


With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov AKA Spirit/STEP

From Oleg Bashtenko To All 18 October 1997


Hello Vladimir.

17 Oct 97 23:18, Vladimir Yudin wrote to Vyacheslav Mednonogov:
[...]
VY> It is unlikely that at the end of August you can drive a crowd of children to school. :)
So much the better, they won’t get in the way... ;)

Oleg

... We still have a long time to get out of one system - the solar one.

From Andrey Mihaylow To All 18 October 1997

AI> If the crowd doesn’t go to the brewery, the brewery will go to the crowd ;)
AI> These are already plans for ’99.
And we, potential participants, I hope, will still discuss what
competitions should be held and how, unless of course the organizers are against it.
____ ____ ____
Regards Andrey Mihaylow [ ___| | | |___ ] Local time: 15:02
Aka: &y \PoS\PCCC\Izhevsk [ |_____|Team|_____| ] Saturday October 18, 1997


From Vladimir Yudin To All 19 October 1997

SN> Can anyone come up with a better idea?

TopFun98? :))
Sincerely
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From Evgeny Milun To All 20 October 1997


Hello Alex !

Saturday October 18 1997 18:41, Alex Letaev ─── Vyacheslav Mednonogov:

VM>> By the way, I remembered the old presentation of F. Peters, held at
VM>> one of the St. Petersburg schools. A distinctive feature was the presence
VM>> of a large number of local schoolchildren. I have nothing against it, but the director
VM>> should be warned about the possible corrupting influence of party participants on
VM>> his children ;))
AL> But the children will be imbued with the spirit of a real party. :-)))))
I would even say: “plunge into the mysterious world of the computer.” And they will know the great computer god - Birr. :))) (Non-alcoholic, though. It’s still
early for them.)

From Alex Kovrigin To All 20 October 1997

AL>>> what the hell.....??? To organize fortune-telling in the echo, or
AL>>> to act?
AK>> Exactly, you don’t need to guess and confirm something,
AK>> but you can act regardless of their answer.
AL> Yeah, and the message was thrown in order to scare everyone. :-)))))

Exactly ;)

From Wladimir Bulchukey To All 21 October 1997


Hello, All!

This is Wlodek Black, Vladimir Bulchukei.

So I finally got to the echo conference to say for myself
about the upcoming Spectrum Festival in Moscow. I don't have
direct access to Fido; I exchange information through the gateway of
Alexey Ivanov, so I cannot promptly respond to
questions, opinions, suggestions, for which I apologize.
First, I want to say a huge thank you to all Muscovites who
supported the idea of ​​subja and long ago and significantly began to bring it
to life together with me. This is, of course, Alexey Ivanov; This is Sergey
Novikov, these are very, very many people from ZXNet (095). And for
just support, thanks to the same Alex Letaev, for example.

I have accumulated and continue to collect “Cuts” from each
day of the echo conference, but I simply cannot physically quote each question specifically and
answer it. Therefore, I will try
in a generalized, but as informative manner as possible to answer everyone at once.
The first cannon shot of the "Aurora" :-) with the word "FunTop"
sounded from the pages of Nicron-51. But since not everyone can read it (the newspaper does not reach everywhere), let me remind you what was discussed there.

And it was said there, or rather, it _cited_ a _document_,
signed and _sealed_, announcing the intentions
to hold in August1998 Festival of Spectrumists at Moscow School 91. And also the fact that I take full responsibility for order, safety of property and cleanliness. Therefore, it’s probably logical to explain here for those who don’t know me who
I am. I have been working at school 91 for 15 years; one of these days (24th)
I will celebrate my 34th birthday (I will not refuse to accept congratulations!
:-) ). So you are dealing with an adult, and with considerable teaching experience. During my student years I
organized discos; working at school - bike rides with
students, etc. In Moscow we have a monolithic team of like-minded people, in contrast to St. Petersburg, where only one person was responsible for each
platform. We started learning from other people's mistakes from the first days after returning from St. Petersburg, and we were silent in the echoes only because don't say anything until you jump.

We jumped. Notified. And we hope for your understanding and your
support. The work is ongoing, and the work is serious.

The equipment is absolutely complete, and it will not let you down.

Looking at past demos, where the authors conveyed greetings to the
Festival itself (“Enlight'97 - sensation of the year!”, etc.) and
considering that it makes sense for the authors to start working now
(let’s remember how many bright stars were late for E’97 - Ecstatic Dub,
Rage, TheCube!), I consider it necessary to close the issue of the name of the
Festival.

FunTop98 has been proclaimed. The name fits into 8
characters (an obvious requirement for naming files, directories,
archives, etc. on any platform), and is easy to pronounce
in English: [ fan-top ; no "y"s! ], easily abbreviated:
FT98 or even F98.


With respect -
Vladimir Bulchukey
ZXNet(095) Coordinator.
Chairman of the FunTop98 Organizing Committee.
ZXNet: 095/462

From Alexey Ivanov To All 21 October 1997


Hi Andrey!

Saturday 18 Oct 1997 14:01, Andrey Mihaylow wrote to Alexey Ivanov:

AM> And we, potential participants, I hope, will still discuss
AM> what competitions should be held and how, unless of course
AM> the organizers are not against it.

This is the normal approach to sabzhu.
During the organization, the main stereotype was broken. The organizers are virtually all
participants. As you wish, so it will be (within the limits of possibility). And your opinion
is taken into account and valued.


Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov