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An idea appeared here about subj. Because subj is completely speckish, so
why don’t we say do something like Power Demo Compo. Those. demos in this compo
will be written for a computer with 512kb+turbo memory. You can even use GS (but that's another question). And how long can you sit in these 128kb, just like on the PC
it turns out (about 640kb). Moreover, 512 are quite common, and with the advent of demos (and subsequently games), people themselves will be interested in making them. Well, judge for yourself what an ordinary user has now with his 512kb, except for copying disks or listening to MODs, he has nothing else to do. And then
staying in 128kb imho is also not an option.
In general, I would like to hear the opinions of others on this matter, especially the organizers
subj.

With maximum respect, Andy Harchenko.

Tuesday February 10 1998 19:55, Andy Harchenko wrote to All:

AH> One idea appeared here about subj'a. Because subj is completely speckish, so why not do something like Power Demo Compo. That is,
AH> the demos in this component will be written for a computer with 512kb+turbo memory. You can
AH> even GS (but that's another question) to use. And how long can you sit in
AH> these 128kb, just like on the PC it turns out (about 640kb). Moreover, 512
AH> are quite common, and with the advent of demos (and subsequently games), people
AH> will be interested in making them themselves. Well, judge for yourself that
AH> now has an ordinary user with his 512kb, except for copying disks or
AH> listening to MODs, he has nothing else to do. And then staying at 128kb
AH> imho is also not an option. In general, I would like to hear the opinions of others on this
AH>, especially the organizers of the subj.

The idea is pure crap, don’t be offended - but that’s how it is.
Why are demos made on speccy? Not to compete with PC/Ammy...
But to implement hardcore things on the standard configuration of a regular 128
Spectrum.

For such demos a special compo is always made: wild demo compo.
You can represent anything you want there. I don’t know if it will be on FT, but the fact
is that standard competition should be on standardSubject:
128/~71000tpi/1fdd/AY.

cYes, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·

A bottle of papyrus floated to me, and on that papyrus it was written that Wednesday February
11 1998 at 09:46, Artem Haritonov wrote to Andy Harchenko:

AH> The idea is pure crap, don’t be offended - but it is so.
AH> Why are demos made on speccy? Not to compete with PC/Ammy...
Yes, you are of course right, but I’m more likely saying that it’s time to support Spec’s config software
otherwise why would we need all these bells and whistles if we still remain in the 1986 conference.

AH> but the fact is that the standard competishin should be on the standard
AH> conference: 128/~71000tpi/1fdd/AY.
^^^^ wow, wow, I feel better #7ffd :)

AH> That is. demos in this component will be written for a computer with 512kb+turbo memory.
And it is possible for 4MB x 21 MHz. The same Spectrum screen, 128th machine plus
RAM-Disk with a capacity of 640k, working like a regular TR-DOS disk through #3D13, but at
a much higher speed, without disk errors and without braking on
positioning.
Do you need to set AY ? I’ll put it specifically so that there won’t be any
questions.
And the first debugging can be done on any 128 Spectrum, with brakes, of course,
and then tested on a Sprinter. Imho, many people will have it before the summer.

How do you like this twist?

░▒▓██ Best regards, Ivan. ██▓▒░

TR-DOS 5.04Ei

AH> Yes, you’re right, of course, but I’m more likely saying that it’s time to support the Speck config
AH> with software, otherwise we don’t need all these bells and whistles if we still
AH> remain in the conf of ’86.

No, according to the general rules, the program should be written on a configuration 1.5/2
times larger than the one for which it is intended. In other words, you need to do it on
more powerful machines, so as not to “carve a cave in the rock with a file” (c)
Inforcom book.

A bottle of papyrus floated to me, and on that papyrus it was written that Saturday
February 14, 1998 at 19:48, Ivan Mak wrote to Andy Harchenko:
AH>> Compo. Those. demos in this component will be written for a computer with memory
AH>> 512kb + turbo.

IM> Or it can be for 4MB x 21 MHz. The same Spectrum screen, 128th machine
IM> plus RAM-Disk with a capacity of 640k, working like a regular TR-DOS disk through
IM> #3D13, but with a much higher speed, without disk errors and without
IM> positioning braking. Do I need to put AY? I'll put it,
IM> specifically so that there are no questions. And the first debugging
IM> can be done on any 128th Spectrum, with brakes, of course, and then
IM> can be tested on Sprinter. Imho, many people will have it before the summer.

IM> How do you like this twist?
Damn, this is cool, I wish I could code it! And if there is also a GS (512kb Ram), then finally everyone will fly away! This can be done...

IM> Or you can do it at 4MB x 21 MHz. The same Spectrum screen, 128th machine
IM> plus RAM-Disk with a capacity of 640k, working like a regular TR-DOS disk through
IM> #3D13, but with a much higher speed, without disk errors and without
IM> positioning braking. Do I need to put AY? I'll put it,
IM> specifically so that there are no questions. And the first debugging
IM> can be done on any 128th Spectrum, with brakes, of course, and then
IM> can be tested on Sprinter. Imho, many people will have it before the summer.
IM> How do you like this twist?

February 14, 1998 at 09:51, Artem Haritonov wrote to Andy Harchenko:

AH> No, according to the general rules, the program should be written on a configuration
AH> 1.5/2 times larger than the one for which it is intended. In other words
AH> you need to do it on more powerful machines so as not to “carve a cave in the rock with a file
AH>” (c) Inforcom book.
I give up :)

AH> =) By the way, about #7ffd... This should still become a standard someday.
OFCOZ, though sometimes in a demo it’s difficult to do without OUT (#FD),A, although rarely.

AH>>> standard candy: 128/~71000tpi/1fdd/AY.
AH>> ^^^^ wow, wow, it’s better for me #7ffd :)

Tue Feb 17 1998 22:51, Andy Harchenko wrote to Ivan Mak:

[...]
IM>> And the first debugging can be done on any 128th Spectrum, with brakes,
IM>> of course, and then tested on the Sprinter. Imho, before the summer it
IM>> many will have it.

AH>> That is. demos in this component will be written for a computer with 512kb+turbo memory.

IM> Or you can use 4MB x 21 MHz. The same Spectrum screen, 128th machine plus
IM> RAM-Disk with a capacity of 640k, working like a regular TR-DOS disk through #3D13, but
IM> with a significantly higher speed, without disk errors and without braking on
IM> positioning. Do I need to put AY? I will put it specifically so that
IM> there would be no questions. And the first debugging can be done on any 128
IM> Spectrum, with brakes, of course, and then tested on the Sprinter
IM>. Imho, many people will have it before the summer.

AH>>>> but the fact is that the standard competishin should be on
AH>>>> standard conf: 128/~71000tpi/1fdd/AY.
AH>>> ^^^^ wow, wow, for me it’s better than #7ffd :)
AH>> =) By the way, about #7ffd... This should still become one day standard.

IM> How do you like this turn?

Wild Compo, like others not previously announced, was decided not to be carried out this time. Next year will be more fun if everything goes well this year :)

IM> ░▒▓██ Best regards, Ivan. ██▓▒░

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
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old...@i-connect.ru

IM> I think you can install GS on Sprinter. And even better, write music for
IM> Sprinter's 8-voice card.
^^^^^^^^^^^
what? disk by doctor? ;)

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AH> What's the point? So you can immediately write on Ammy/PC...
AH> Speccy 128 should remain the demo computer, the rest should be in
AH> WildCompo.
I agree. Spectrum must remain Spectrum.

Ivan