FDD Index Impuls

VY> People, tell me at what frequency (IMHO 5 times per second), and most importantly
VY> what is the duration of the index pulse that comes to the controller from the
VY> disk drive.

IMHO it is not constant and depends on the speed of rotation of the motor.

bye, with all the best wishes, Pavel Fedin.

VY>> the main thing is what is the duration of the index pulse which
VY>> comes to the controller from the disk drive.

PF> IMHO it is not constant and depends on the rotation speed of the motor.

This is understandable, but at least the average value.
Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

VY>> People, tell me at what frequency (IMHO 5 times per second), and most importantly
VY>> what is the duration of the index pulse that comes to the controller
VY>> from the
VY>> disk drive.

AL> Constant, and ideally equal to 300 rpm.

Ideally. Don’t forget that a disk drive is still mechanical, and disks
can be different...

AL> I didn’t measure the duration of the index
AL>, and right now I don’t have an oscilloscope, but in my opinion it varies in
AL> some models, and sometimes floats in Soviet ones.

In theory, it even depends on the specific floppy disk, or rather on the size
of the index holes.

AL>> Index duration
AL>> I didn’t measure it, and right now I temporarily don’t have an oscilloscope, but I think it varies in
AL>> some models, and sometimes floats in Soviet ones.

AL> Soviet - mechanics, TEAC - electronics, and these are different things! :-))))))

The motor and engine heads are all mechanical. ;-)

AL> So the hole is standard.

Standard? What if I dug into it a little more with a knife? ;-) By the way, and
this is a thought - protection can be done this way!

AL> Hello Pavel Fedin! In a message of 20 Sep 97 Pavel Fedin wrote to me:

AL> Konstantin and I already two years ago tried to make a protection
AL> based on
AL> two index holes.

Spoke. So how?

VY>>> from the drive.

AL> Constant, and ideally equal to 300 rpm. I didn’t measure the duration of the index
AL>, and right now I temporarily don’t have an oscilloscope, but in my opinion it varies
AL> in some models, and sometimes floats in Soviet ones.

From the description of MS 5311:

Duration of the index pulse (ID L) 2-5.5 ms
Distance between pulses 200+-3 ms (i.e. rotation speed disk
300+-4.5 rpm)
This signal becomes reliable at least 400 ms after the start
of the magnetic disk drive

Warm greetings, Slava!

Sun 21-Sep-97 07:35, Alex Letaev (2:5020/659.53) wrote a letter to Pavel Fedin:

AL> Konstantin and I already two years ago tried to make protection based
AL> on two index holes.

When we had imports from Poland there: Exterminatror, Robocop3, DoubleDragonIII,
RodLand, etc. In 1993? Kopprov then sold this Varez on disks with two holes. The second, however, was not pierced, but scratched. Removed. ;)

With best wishes, Vladimir.

PF> Spoke. So how?

It worked, but was abandoned. They came up with another one.

VL> When we had imports from Poland there: Exterminatror, ​​Robocop3,
VL> DoubleDragonIII, RodLand, etc. In 1993? Kopprov then sold this Varez precisely
VL> on disks with two holes. The second, however, was not pierced, but
VL> scratched. Removed. ;)

You can take pictures of everything, but copying them is hard. We also abandoned it.

VM> Index pulse duration (ID L) 2-5.5 ms
VM> Distance between pulses 200+-3 ms (i.e. disk rotation speed
VM> 300+-4.5 rpm)

This is so in the description, but in nature it floats +-10.

EM> "All roads lead to Rome." ;))))
EM> or
EM> “Similar garbage” :))))
EM> We somehow thought about it, but for some reason we didn’t
EM> like this method very
EM>...

Similarly, we abandoned it.

One day Sun Sep 21 1997 07:35, Alex Letaev wrote a letter to Pavel Fedin:

AL> Konstantin and I already tried two years ago to make a defense based on

AL>> It worked, but was abandoned. They came up with another one.
PF> And which one?

Based on spindle speed.

AL> It’s like that in the description, but in nature it floats +-10.

Well, maybe it floats on Soviet drives (although on
almost all there are trimmers), but on the bourgeois ones - it doesn’t
float.... Because. quartz... The only thing is that on robotrons (on all the ones I've seen), the speed is for some reason 294 (in my opinion) revolutions)

Good Luck...

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)

24 Sep 97 03:42, Max Romanoff reported to Alex Letaev about {Re: FDD Index Impuls}:

MR> In fact, the most effective protection is checking for differences
MR> track lengths

Since you're done with the spec and Walker, share this secret of yours - everyone
will be interested ;)

Warm greetings, Slava!

But it’s interesting if we combine the idea of ​​protection used in the ZXF with
“two-hole”, i.e. calculate the distance between holes accurate to the byte?

The advantages are obvious: there is no need to tighten up the drive speed resistor, there is no need to
scratch the disks, if necessary, the second hole is sealed with tape and a
normal disk is obtained.
The disadvantages are the same: when using 3.5" floppy disks, you will have to glue in
a second magnet :(, the second hole will need to be positioned so that it is close
to the first one, or fell into the intersector space, otherwise such a disc cannot
be read or written down :(

However, from the point of view of non-copyability and manufacturability, such protection will give
100 points ahead of any other.
By the way, it is better to drill the second hole with a drill or punch it with a sharpened tube -
there will be no burrs or deformation.

ps\ I have already introduced everyone authors with drills in their hands :)))

Warm greetings, Slava!

AL> Based on the spindle speed.

I see. Or you can also do this: Position the head, then xorka
some kind of small thread, but such that you can’t just pass it SS+T.
Then after it read the sector. The meaning is this: while I trace the xork, the motor
will have time to stop, so there will be no reading,
since the reading command itself does not spin the motor.

MR>> The protection was successfully applied in The Turn at one time...

JS> ...and at one time it was successfully removed in a day...

Read my lips, son: The program protection WAS removed, but NOT DISK
PROTECTION. As always, you confuse different things. And as always, you try
to screw me up, but you screw yourself up, from head to toe... :)

'militant grayness' (C) Oleg Sergeev - this is about you.

(btw, of all the Kraks there were, yours was the worst. But I
liked the Moscow one, which had even inserted as if
branded... however, that version did not work on 48... although it should)...

Yes, and started boasting about your brainless cracks, of dubious
quality, made in a dubious time.

Yes, if you If you decide to respond to this letter, it would be better to send it to
NIL:... Because... You, as always, not understanding the topic of the conversation, decided
to show off a twist (one)... And I’m not interested (and not only me)
in reading your idle fictions, and inflamed fantasies on various
topics... and not on topic...

The conversation was about disk protection, and about what is copied, and what
no. So the option from a long track (first used by
me) is the most reliable in this case.

So: you did NOT copy it, and no one copied it. This
is unreal.True, having a piece of hardware for the Amiga, you can still make
a copy, but making this copy will take more than 10 minutes,
if not more...

P.S. learn to read letters, son, and think with your head, and not with the place
you are used to.

P.S.S. To pump up that gyrus, I recommend going through *all* chance
levels of THE Turn - honestly.

2ALL: by the way, there are such megabrains here, i.e. past ? (just
for fun)

Good Luck...

... Viking Philoharmonic Orchestra: World's largest horn section!

...and at one time it was successfully filmed in a day...

With best wishes, John.

===> #/FUCK/# *mUlTiMeDiA*, #/MAKE/# more $dEmOs$ ===>

PF> I see. Or you can also do this: Position the head, then Xorka
PF> some kind of small thread, but such that you can’t just pass it
PF> SS+T. Then after it read the sector. The meaning is this: while I trace
PF> the motor will have time to stop, so there will be no reading,
PF> since the reading command itself does not spin the motor.

This was done in the Phantom protector. It works out simply: in pure memory
you write push of all registers, then call 3d13 with positioning on the track we are on, then pop of all registers, etc. Two minutes of work in STS.

VM> Regarding the Amiga: it will copy -10 rpm, but not +10 rpm? Or in both cases, the length of the track will not be exactly repeated?

In short, I’ll explain:

Amiga can copy in 2 ways:

1. Read the entire track into memory, and then write. Because reading
of the track is at the lowest level (MFM), then it is possible to copy any
protections based on left formats...

This method is fast, but cannot copy tracks with a short
length... No, it copies them, but the length of the track becomes
standard for the speed at which the disk is spinning at which
is written...

why?

Explanation: When reading a track, the hardware is synchronized via MFM, and
reads the entire track. Because Hardware allows a variation in the speed
of the drive, THEN it, in principle, reads in a wide range of bitrates.

As a result, the memory contains an image of an MFM track of a certain
length (read). A because MFM recording occurs with a standard
birtrate, then during recording extra 'empty bits' will be written or
even a sector will be eaten (if the track has been stretched)...

As a result, we get an identical track, but its length
changes in the usual direction. Which is controlled by the program.

2. Use a small external piece of hardware that allows
to copy *DIRECTLY* from one drive to another (bypassing memory,a
means preserving *BCE* temporary recording characteristics)...

The role of the computer in this case is to track the indexes
synchronization of both drives (the circuit confuses 3 signals with each other:
RDDATA - WRDATA, SEL2 - WriteEnable, DiskChange - INDEX... On the left is a
computer connector, on the right is a disk drive...), and when they match (plus,
minus a few bytes) - writing on one is enabled, and reading on
another, and the track is written directly from one to another disk...

Disk drive speed comp. equalizes by short-term removal
of the MOTOR signal...

This copying method copies absolutely all protections (except
scratched ones)... Including non-standard MFM + multi-speed
recording...

disadvantage This method is terribly slow (after all
before copying a track (EACH) it is necessary to combine indexes...
and the greater the difference in speeds, the more time is needed)...

This can be improved by synchronizing both drives from one
quartz, but I have not tested this...

However, this method is still not suitable for duplicating
disks... perhaps for one or two copies of some major
prone to self-destruction, or for yourself...

It should be noted that theoretically, it is possible to make
copies of tracks with different lengths (even to master tracks with a length of
1kb or something like that, which is impossible anywhere except the Amiga)...

The essence of the method is the basis of the work of disk hardware on the Amiga.

For those who are not familiar, I will only say that the hardware writes to the disk
prepared MFM data... And if among this data there is only
a certain part encoded by MFM (a pair of sectors with fields), and
the rest will be 00, then VG93 will not be able to count such zero MFM
data, because they lack the synchronization required by VG93...

As a consequence, we can assume that the length of the track will be equal
to the length of useful information...

This theory has not been tested in practice, if anyone checks it, let
me know about the results...

p.s. turned it down, right? :)

Good Luck...

... Windows isn't CrippleWare - it's "Functionally Challenged".

MR> Read my lips, son: The program protection was removed, but NOT the DISK
MR> PROTECTION. As always, you confuse different things. And as always, you try
MR> to screw me over, but you screw yourself up, from head to toe... :)

There’s no need to screw you over - there’s no need, grandpa, understand.

MR> (btw, of all the Kraks that there were, yours was the worst. And I
MR> liked the Moscow one, in which was even inserted, as if
MR> was branded... however, that version didn’t work on 48... although it should)...

For such a Down toy to do a cool crack - it’s painfully fat.

MR> P.S.S. To pump up that gyrus, I recommend going through *all* chance
MR> levels of THE Turn - honestly.

Have you completed them yourself?

JS> For such a Daunov toy, making a cool crack is painfully fatty.

Oh, yes... Daunovskaya :)))) That's why half a year ago they made no less than Daunov's stripes... And finally, I can say that I was a pioneer
, in part brain-crash-logicgames + hires gfx... And only
recently a large number of similar (in
style) products began to appear...

You, a microcephalus, cannot pass such a thing in your life.

JS> Have you passed them yourself? take this opportunity to remove my ears."

MR> What else did you do? Apart from sabotage?

Enlight'96infos+report, at least...

MR> This is an excuse. The game is what you need. You just have to not be a microcephalic.

You didn’t beat this game either. Conclusion...

PF> the ksorka is some kind of small thread, but such that it cannot be easily
PF> SS+T. Then after it read the sector. The meaning is this: while I
PF> trace the xorka, the motor will have time to stop, so there will be no reading
PF>, since the reading command itself does not spin the motor.
This old feature is very simple, I move the xorka to another place,
put CALL 15635 in front of it, after which everything works and falls into STS,
if necessary (the presence of a second xor), the entire procedure is repeated.

With respect, Andrey Mihaylow

28 Sep 97 17:50, Max Romanoff reported to Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {FDD Index
Impuls}:

MR> 2. Use a small external piece of hardware that allows
MR> to copy *DIRECTLY* from one drive to another (bypassing memory, a
MR> means preserving *BCE* temporary characteristics of the recording)...

There is no need to talk about this.

MR> p.s. turned it down, right? :)

Yes, you’ll just reveal all the secrets.

Warm greetings, Slava!

AL>> This was done in the Phantom protector. It works out simply: in clean memory
AL>> write push of all registers, then call 3d13 with positioning on the
AL>> track we are on
AL>>, then pop of all registers, etc. Two minutes of work in
AL>> STS.

PF> What if there are no system variables? Or is there no clean memory?

So sts also works with the disk. Unload a memory fragment, do
the above, load a memory fragment.

MR> Well, maybe it floats on Sovdep drives (although on
MR> almost all of them have trimmers), but on bourgeois ones it is not

On bourgeois ones it is stable, but there are still a fifth of people left.

MR> it floats... Because quartz... The only thing is that on robotrons (on all the ones I've seen), the speed is for some reason 294 (in my opinion) revolutions)

I came across 306, but it was stable. And I have 301 on Specky, 303 on Ami,
I have never seen less than 300 on robotrons.

VM> There is no need to talk about this.

:-)))) By the time of the release of the ChV, several such things will be made in many cities!
:-))) By the way, there are branded such things, at some enterprises they still exist
probably still, but I don’t know for what format.

FA> Max, you won’t die of modesty.

I think you, like many, simply didn’t know such things...

Good Luck...

... Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for life.

JS> I always think about her, understand? You translated this game. You didn't come up with the idea

WHO, 'her'? :))))

JS> (you wouldn’t even have enough for that), you didn’t draw the pictures, not you

Why did you come up with something (why reinvent the wheel,
in other words), if there was a great idea - and what I needed
was exactly this type of toy - for promotional mouse.

JS> compiled the levels... You just wrote some very basic code and so on

I made a very sophisticated game in CHANCE.

JS> you praise it below.

The code there is really elementary (this is not a secret), but how
it is included, and what features it does - that’s what juice.

JS> So much? 3000 clock cycles per cursor? IM2? Even when it loads from the disk,

Did you fall? redrawing the cursor with restoration of the graphics under it +
creeping line + timer + situations when the chips are in
movement... IMHO - just right. And then, 3000 is when the clock
counts down a second, and so - ~1500. Music - more.

JS> yes?

No.

Good Luck...

... SWF, blonde, stacked, seeks appreciative gentlemen. No sysops.

JS> For such a Down toy, making a cool crack is painfully fat.
“Either do it or don’t do it. There’s no need to try.” (C) Master Yoda

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

AM> Oh, this old feature is very simple, I move the xor to another
AM> place, put CALL 15635 in front of it, after which everything works out and
AM> falls into STS,
AM> if necessary (available second xorka) the whole procedure is repeated.

Well... You can also do some tricks with the relocation machine. With a stack, for example.

PF>> And if there are no systemic measures? Or is there no clean memory?

AL> So sts also works with the disk. You unload a memory fragment, do
AL> the above, load a memory fragment.

You can... But at one time The Bird came up with a defense. And he came up with it.
It is based on xork, which goes through all the pages and shifts
memory. At the same time, there is nowhere to put a breakpoint. Naturally, this
wasn't tested in practice - he tried to clog something, but couldn't - the protection
works perfectly. ;-)))

JS> Yes, I fell. Why is there so much?

If you think that everything was done there through ()(), then you are mistaken. Everything
was done as it should be, and in that case it could not have been better. Just
think, or look at what’s going on there, and then speak.

JS> Then don’t say that the whole game is on them. Learn to be responsible for your words.

things never happen entirely on IM2. Bearing in mind that it is all on IM2 - I
mean that everything basic (including logic and graphics)
is on the Internet, and manages to do its job before the start
of the graphic screen.

the idea with RND in the rest - well, we need to bring it in element
of chance :))))

Good Luck...

... Ever notice how fast Windows 3.1 runs? Neither have I...

JS> There are. If you mean by things, not just toys.

Name a few.

JS> Draw an arrow, plus turn over the chips? Is it so difficult that the
JS> would fit into the frame? Are you so proud of this? Is this a huge achievement for you?

uncle, uncle, are you a fool? It seems like they explained to you what it does, and
what it does, what makes up ~1500 clock cycles. Maybe less - I
don’t remember anymore.

In short, I’m fed up. I wasn't making a racing car, and I'm not making it, but
a game in which speed is NOT ALL important.

Listen, go and do something useful for society. And then
show off.

I'm sick of my mediocre writing NOTHING ABOUT...

that's it, ignore u.

Good Luck...

... "Is fire supposed to shoot out of it like that?"

VM> “They haven’t grown up to my music yet” (c) Neznayka

I don’t understand, is this a hit? :)

VM> a) how is your protection implemented technologically? costs five or six
VM> spectra, each with its own track written at an individual speed?

You can do this, or you can build a small device that changes the speed.
The device can be controlled
1. By a button
2. from a computer (which is more interesting)

VM> or sits Sparker with with a screwdriver and constantly unscrews the speed limit?

:)

VM> b) why did you indicate the deviation of the track length as 20 bytes, and not 2 and not
VM> 200 - checked?

This is the nominal spread that I have seen on different types of
disk drives, and machines...

VM> c) how stable is she at work? (does not require rewriting during
VM> check - this is good)

Like a regular disk - no perversions or insecurities.

VM> d) is it compatible with 3.5"? (I don’t remember any TURNs or Formats on
VM> 3.5)

It’s friendly. The main thing is to write it down. (when the turn was made 3`5 no one
had :)))))

VM> It would be interesting to implement such a copier on a PC, but there
VM> the only way to change the data transfer rate (too discrete)
VM> :( And there is no “write track” command, I’m not even sure that there is "read
VM> track"

Why do you format it and then write it.

Good Luck...

... A flying saucerresults when a nudist spills his coffee.

^^^^^^^^^^
JS>> loading,

MR> Did you fall? redrawing the cursor with restoration of the graphics under it +
MR> creeping line + timer + situations when the chips are in
MR> movement... IMHO - just right. And then, 3000 is when the clock
MR> counts down a second, and so - ~1500. Music - more.

Yes, I fell. Why so many?

JS>> yes?
MR> No.

Then there is no need to say that the whole game is based on them2. Learn to be responsible for your words.

With the best wishes, John.

30 Sep 97 03:53, Max Romanoff reported to Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {FDD Index
Impuls}:

VM>> There is no need to talk about this.
MR> Not interested, or are you afraid? :). Does it cost five or six Spectrums, each with its own track written at individual speed? or is Sparker sitting with a screwdriver and constantly twisting the speed limit?
b) why did you indicate the deviation of the track length as 20 bytes, and not 2 or 200 -
checked?
c) how stable is it in operation? (does not require rewriting when checking -
this is good)
d) is it compatible with 3.5"? (I don’t remember any TURNs or Formats for 3.5)

It would be interesting to implement such a copier on a PC, but there the only
you can change the data transfer rate (too discretely) :( And there is no command
“write track”, I’m not even sure that there is a “read” track"

Warm greetings, Slava!

MR> Name a few.

EYEACHE2, UNREAL...

MR> In short, I'm sick of it. I didn’t make a racing car, and I’m not making it, but
MR> a game in which speed is NOT ALL important.

And then why are you so proud of it? I started saying that everything is on im2,
3000 cycles?

27 Sep 97 14:46, Ilya Katargin reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {Re: FDD Index
Impuls}:

IK> I am amazed: everyone is slowly forgetting about Specky, people are sitting on more
IK> 'smart' machines, there is no longer that widespread interest in the good old
IK> Speccy, and the authors of at least some useful software are trying to make such
IK> protection so that no one will copy or steal their new program.

This is still useful to know and be able to do. For example, the distribution kit of the most expensive domestic software product for the PC "1C Accounting 6" is the 4th
well-protected 3.5" floppy disk

IK> Judge for yourself, all the wheel encoders are at least on the Amiga.

On the Amiga are the "major people", as they call themselves :) There have never been any head
coders (in our country) (well, maybe a couple of
people)

/skip/

IK> This is how the Speccy consumer market is dying :'-{

You have to pay for everything :~(

With warm greetings, Slava!

AL> It’s stable among the bourgeois, but there are still a fifth of people left.

I don’t know which of the sellers writes programs for HA 05 drives, but where
is readable doesn’t have values. If only it could be read without errors... A
length does not change when reading speed changes. This is the whole
trick. :)

AL> I also came across 306, but consistently. And I have 301 on Speckies, 303 on Ami,
AL> I haven’t seen less than 300 on Robotrons.

Well, that means different parties. A tiki - rulez. 300 always.

Good Luck...

... Macintosh: A computer any fool can use, and only fools will use it...

JS>> EYEACHE2, UNREAL...
MR> We were not talking about demos, but about programs. Game&Soft.

Demes can also be called things :)

VM> a) you can copy a “scratched” protection if, when checking, it does not
VM> use data overwriting

Scratched protection is not considered if it does not use overwriting.

VM> b) you cannot copy a protection with two holes if it is checked
VM> distance between them in bytes

punch the 2nd hole after copying...

VM> c) the protection that checks the length of the track is hard to copy (need
VM> lotion)

Well... Several copies can be made :))))) And
lotion - 3 wires confused :))))

Good Luck...

... Overflow on null device; please empty the bit bucket.

JS> Why are you so proud of it then? He started saying that everything is on im2,
JS> 3000 ticks?

3000 - in those moments when the clock is ticking and the chips are spinning. :)

Good Luck...

... ///\oo/\\\ There are no more bugs. ///\oo/\\\ ///\oo/\\\

VM> is 4 well-protected 3.5" floppy disks

Let's start replicating? As it used to be with is-dos :)

VM> There are “major people” sitting on the Amiga, as they call themselves :)
VM> There have never been any head coders there (in our country) (well, maybe
VM> a couple of people)

Well, yes, maybe you’re the only one doing something. for
spec... I mean, you use it as a tool... The rest
just have everything they need...

Good Luck...

... I am Yoda of Borg, resistance is.

AH> Damn he was from Moscow... This was our crack... SOFTSHAR picked up his crooked
AH> picture, and our intro (by the way, it was the _FIRST_ plaasma on
AH> speccy in attributes)... True, he couldn’t find and fix the cheat...
AH> 'PSG' during the rotation of stones remained as the next level...
AH> Then I sold your game to Inforkom...

:-)))) When was this? Did we already work with SOFTSHIT or
not???

MR> Can’t you guess?

No. As Max Iwamoto wrote back in 1993 (or even in 1992) - the cooler the toy, the cooler the loader :) And I completely agree with him :)

AL> :-)))) When was this? We were already working with SOFTSHIT then or
AL> not???

In 1996... Yes, Softstar still did something worthwhile. For example, a remix of
Dizzy Y. Or Street Fighter 2...

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AH> Damn he was from Moscow... This was our crack... SOFTSHAP picked up his crooked picture
AH> picked up our intro (by the way, it was the _FIRST_ plane on
AH> speccy in the attributes)... True, he couldn’t find and fix the cheat...

Well, I didn’t see the plasma... Unfortunately... I should also take a look at Codebuster
crack :)

AH> 'PSG' during the rotation of stones as the next level and stayed...
AH> Then he sold your game to Inforkom...

Hmmm... Inforkom is buying up stolen goods... SHAME.

Good Luck...

... It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.

AL> Yeah, I messed up the decomposer, variables, stack (but the percent didn’t know about it!),

Stack - why is it needed? :-)

CM> ReRead God knows what’s going on. :(

Such protection in itself is NOT reliable. And over time it may
disappear...

P.S. Pervert the MFM data a little, and I think it will start to float in the wrong way...

VM> “Major people” are sitting on the Amiga, as they call themselves :) The helmsmen
Pus are sitting. Maybe they like it ;)
VM> there have never been any coders there (in our country) (well, maybe
Maybe there will be soon. And who are these two or three?
VM> two or three people)
I meant the driving Spectrum coders. I hope you won't deny the existence of such people? And about the Amizhniks, I can’t show off my knowledge :(
I remembered an old joke:

A conversation between two 'advanced' spektrumists:
1: Do you know the shortest joke?
2: Nope 8-/
1: Forty-eight! }8->

That's true, by the way ;)

AL>> or
AL>> no???

SN> Year in 96... Yes, Softstar still did something worthwhile. For example,
SN> Dizzy Y's remix. Or Street Fighter 2...

Dizzy's remix was his, but Titus did Street Fighter from start to finish.

CM>> Visual effect after the “short recording”. The first sixteen
CM>> (for example) bytes of the sector are fixed (constant value), in the rest
CM>> God knows what happens for every ReRead. :(
VM> This is just clear :) I’m talking about the method by which this
VM> effect is achieved. Interrupt during formatting?

Yes. When formatting and/or recording. "Short format" and "short recording" are implemented in Quad EXPLORER. A _Very_ ancient program for studying
and mocking flops. Apparently, it only works well on a kopeck piece
(or other slow car).

//Wicked Cyril

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■ Due to circumstances within our control, tomorrow will be cancelled.

AL>> Yes, without a special loader, controllers and copiers will fail,
AL>> including the Amiga.
MR> Amiga - it won’t. I will copy anything, except
MR> scratched protections. Ok.

I know that you will copy, but not in X-copy which will fail. On the PC the hardware will suck, on the standard programs. Otakot.

FA> Koprov did everything cool, but forgot to protect from the magician :)

:-)))))))

MR> Well, that means different parties. A tiki - rulez. 300 always.

Yeah.

PF> Stack - why is it needed? :-)

So to disgrace him. :-))))))))

CM>> d) “Floating sector” (short entry). You can copy it, but after
CM>> copying the data stops “floating” - that’s all love :)

VM> Wow! I thought so too. Then he came to the notorious M. Romanov, and
VM> he copied this file on the Amiga (however, one of the four
VM> copiers took this file, but the fact remains a fact) :((

The Amiga has the ability to see Spectrum bits on the disk as several. Therefore
copying a floating sector is sometimes possible.

Your version came to me first, but for some reason it showed the
pictures incorrectly, and all that is left of it now is the intro ;) And then
Softstar's version appeared a little later, in it he also mixed up something - it didn't work for Scorps
- I don't remember why, I corrected it and added another line with
the history of the origin of this product. That's how things are. :)

C u l8r,
Dmitry aka ZDW.

What does 'Dizzy-Y remix' mean?

With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... The greater the talent, the more difficult it is to bury it.

In a message of 29 Sep 97 Felix Arzumanian wrote to Alex Letaev:

AL>>>> Konstantin and I already two years ago tried to make protection
AL>>>> based on two index holes.

modestly

VL>>> When we had imports from Poland there: Exterminatror, Robocop3,
VL>>> DoubleDragonIII, RodLand, etc. In 1993? Kopprov then sold this Varez
VL>>> on disks with two holes. The second, however, was not
VL>>> broken, but scratched. Removed. ;)

JS> No. As Max Iwamoto wrote, back in 1993 (or even in 1992) - the cooler the
JS> toy, the cooler the loader :) And I completely agree with him :)
Well, if you consider that it was Code Busters who introduced the fashion for “stamped”
loaders... Don’t they have all the loaders They differ only in the set of grittings and infinites ?

Good luck ! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

EM> About the fact that either bring the crack to the full finale, or don’t take it on at all
EM> for your information, the crack of the tour had all the attributes inherent in crack, such as:
complete hacking of the program’s protection; translation of the program into trdos without any
restrictions on use (more precisely, only one thing - the files must follow each other in a strictly defined sequence); a small left-handed intro with
the ability to select cheats; built-in key combination for skipping levels;
efficiency (the crack with the intrusion was prepared in two or three days). What could be
missing here?

EM> Well, if you consider that it was Code Busters who introduced the fashion for
EM> “stamped” loaders... Don’t all their loaders differ only
EM> in the set of grittings and infinites ?

Intra is not a megademo/eurodemo. It serves to suggest
choose space and say a few greetings.

MR> Like all your cries, he was WORSE. look at others, and you
MR> you will understand what I mean :)

If you look at others, you can find even worse. If you are talking about the intra,
then I remember your intras in which there is an attribute string. What could be more
poor?

JS> Intra is not a megademo/eurodemo. It serves to suggest
JS> to choose infinite and say a few greetings.

Looking at the collision with me (just now).

DO YOU THINK WITH YOUR HEAD SOMETIMES? If yes, then you very often
contradict yourself, as at the moment.

Good Luck...

... WordPerfect Isn't, Excel doesn't and Works won't.

Tuesday October 07 1997 01:25, Dmitry Zubarev wrote to Artem Haritonov:

DZ> Your version was the first to reach me, but for some reason it showed pictures incorrectly
DZ> the pictures were shown incorrectly, and all that is left of it now is the intro

Everything there was shown normally... Only at 48 it didn’t worked.

cYa, aARTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

Thursday October 09 1997 22:18, Max Romanoff wrote to John Stunner:

MR> The main thing: the releases were QUALITY. :)
MR> A intra is not an indicator of anything.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You are mistaken and quite strongly.

cYa, aRTY/dR! · · ··· Email: Ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · ···

EM>> take hold of it...

JS> For your information, the turna crack had all the attributes inherent in a crack, such as:

Do you think he even saw it?

JS> a complete hack of the program’s security; translation of the program into trdos without any
JS> or restrictions in use (more precisely, only one thing - the files must
JS> follow each other in a strictly defined sequence);
JS> a small left-handed intro with the ability to select cheats; built-in
JS> key combination for skipping levels; efficiency (the crack with intrusion
JS> was prepared in two or three days). What could be missing here?

The lameness and the inscription "Restored by Stars of Keladan Creative-Hackers Group"...
:)

NM> Either you haven’t seen it, or you don’t know why WG93 is being reset.

As they wrote in one of the zx-reviews, you can do it by double-clicking on the Magick (?)

Warm greetings, Slava!

VM> As they wrote in one of the zx-reviews, you can do it by double-clicking on
VM> the magick (?)

First, the glued disk, when the magick hangs, is pressed a second time on the
normal disk, or you can simply subtract everything from zero with STS track.
It’s very good if, when the magic is triggered, something tricky hits the stack
that is specially placed there, then this method will not help. On firmware tr-dos 5.05 by RST#7, by holding down some buttons, the stack
is forcibly reinstalled during Magic, and this trick with the stack
is bypassed. Such a ROM is rare among people.

Monday September 29 1997 17:35, Max Romanoff wrote to John Stunner:

MR> All - no, but part - yes. Conclusion? The authors do not play their games.

The question arises - how do they know that the game will not crash somewhere at the very end?
The answer is expected - there are game testers for this. ;)
IMHO, you need to check everything yourself :)

/skip/

AK> I don’t know about others, but on my drive controller everything is exactly like this
AK> :)

Maybe it looks like the truth.

Here I also remembered about the protection against magic /in Turn/:
If anyone had the proprietary version, you noticed that the disk there spins
during the entire game (!). This was done to poll for the presence of a disk and
to prevent it from being replaced with a blank one (took out the disk - the game was reset). But here, too, there were smart people. They pressed the Magic button and, holding it, changed the disk, after which the game was safely reset. These are the cunning and resourceful hackers we have :)))))

Warm greetings, Slava!

October 15, 97 at 23:16 Vyacheslav Mednonogov fired a letter with a strange subject
like -} FDD Index Impuls {-, and hit Alex Kovrigin ;)

VM> Here I also remembered about protection from magic /in Turna/:
VM> If anyone had proprietary version, I noticed that the disk there
VM> was spinning throughout the entire game (!). This was done to poll the
VM> for the presence of a disk and prevent it from being replaced with a clean one (removed the disk - the game
VM> was reset). But here
VM> there were smart people. They pressed the Magic button and, holding it, changed the disk,
VM> after which the game was safely reset. These are the cunning and resourceful
VM hackers we have :)))))
Wow, what a trick! 8-) Isn’t it easier to put something opaque into the drive, for example, a 100 thousandth piece of paper lying on the table?
The main thing is to get between the optocoupler ;)) And the magician is a pervert. And hackers
are really cunning, outrageously X-)

Meet me in hell, with double-barreled guns drawn, Vyacheslav. :-E~~
Ilya Katargin, October 15, 97 AD, 23:26.
... This is the wrong beer. (c) Bogdan

Wed 08-Oct-97 07:48, Evgeny Milun (2:5057/18.73) wrote a letter to John
Stunner:

EM> Well, if you consider that it was Code Busters who introduced the fashion for “stamped”
EM> loaders...

"Disk version by Vasilyev Anton" of course you've never seen it?

With best wishes, Vladimir.

IK> Wow, what a gimmick! 8-) Isn’t it easier to put something opaque
IK> into the drive, for example, a 100 thousandth piece of paper lying on the table?
IK> The main thing is to get between the opto-coupler ;)) And the magician is a pervert. And the hackers
IK> are really cunning, outrageously X-)

Yes, there was another way - removing the drive connector...

btw, I wanted to monitor the rotation of the disk, but it failed :)

Good Luck...

... BREAKFAST.COM Halted...Cereal Port Not Responding

VL> "Disk version by Vasilyev Anton" of course you've never seen?
Mmmmm... Who is this? :)) Maybe (and most likely) I saw... But, for some reason
I associate “cliché” with Boosters.

AH> And for such constant rotations (I have the original The Turn/Xorem all)
AH> it is necessary... to rip off the dodgy programmers' cunning cerebellar brains

but-but! But it's a hit :)

AH> growths =) Glory! Don’t do this in CV... This is disgusting...

And he won’t do it. ;) As always, it will scratch :)

Good Luck...

... 24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?

Friday October 10 1997 12:12, Artem Haritonov wrote to Dmitry Zubarev:

AH> Everything there was displayed normally... Only at 48 it didn’t work.

Don’t be upset (although it’s not obvious from you) A glitch has arrived, someone may have
ignored a sector or two - anything can happen. :)

EM> Mmmmm... Who is this? :)) Maybe (and most likely) I saw... But
EM> for some reason, I associate “stampedness” with Boosters.

Vasiliev’s attributes always flickered differently. :-))))

AL>> Not all magic circuits will allow you to do this, there is a circuit where just by
AL>> pressing for any duration a short pulse is generated.
ML> So what, after pressing Magic, while the head is moving to the 0th track,
ML> raise your head, change the disk and that's it. I would do that.

You can do it this way, or you can hang...

MR> Yes, these are the Vasilievskys, or the plowed ones? :)

First Vasilyevsky, then plowed. :-)))

AH>> all) it is necessary... to rip off the dodgy programmers' cunning cerebellar

MR> but, but! But it's a hit :)

Well, no one here denies your innovation and know-how... I'm wondering what you could have done in Walker... Horrible. The disk (illegal) would fly out of the drive and
kill the loser hacker (VM's dream)... Then, after circling, it would fly out the window
and head towards the "daddy"... =)

AH> Well, no one here denies your innovation and know-how... I’m wondering what
AH> you would have pulled off in Walker... Creepy. The disk (illegal) would fly out of
AH> the drive and kill the loser hacker (VM's dream)... Then, after circling,
AH> would fly out the window and take a course towards the "daddy"... =)

like a boomerang :)))))))

AH> Perhaps you bought some new device? Automation... in their
AH> agricultural business the main thing is automation... So that the furrow goes smoothly
AH>. =)

:)

Good Luck...

... "Come on! It's a whole new life out there!"
"Oh, no. Not another one!"