Eye Ache 2 - bravo CBS?

A bottle of papyrus floated to me, and on that papyrus it was written that Sunday
February 01 1998 at 06:14, Andrew Pyatcoff wrote All:

AP> they did not give first place. To be honest, demos with E97 are so boring that
AP> you could die. But this one! Just fun and not a demo. BRAVO CODEBUSTERS!!!
AP> Continue in the same spirit!
But don’t keep up the same spirit, although the demo is not bad (in terms of FX), but
impressions of it are not entirely good. There is a very big problem with the loader, I have the same problem on the penta when loading parts for the music, the music itself is terribly slow.
Well, okay, I’m the only one, so everyone I saw it in 5061 has the same problem.
In general, either I don’t understand something or one of two things :)
And to be honest IMHO it’s rather weak for CBS, especially me epilogue killed.
Apparently Rst7 was not in the mood :) or the Amiga was too late.
And, by the way, about the boring dems, let me disagree with you. Take the same
"Shit 4 Brain", IMHO, when watching it, especially for the first time, you won't really get bored.
Or take "Power Up", imho EXPLORER stuck many somewhere deep in FX.
Although, as a trackmo it is of course weaker.
Ofcoz about our "Psychosonic", I finally keep quiet, because We wrote it in just .... 9
days!!! Everything that was at hand or at hand was shoved in there :) In general, the tracks didn’t work out. Yes, and on the E'97 itself it neverI got it (maybe it’s for the better :))
In short, if anyone is interested, I can throw it into the echo.
But never mind, soon “FUNTOP”, I hope we’ll win back! :)

With utmost respect, Jocker/OHG/Mfa

me on penta when loading parts for the muse, the enta music itself is terribly slow.
Well, okay, I’m the only one, so everyone I saw it in 5061 has the same jamb.
In general, either I don’t understand something or one of two things :)
And to be honest IMHO for CBS it’s rather weak, especially the epilogue killed me.
Apparently Rst7 was not in the mood :) or the Amiga was too late.
And, by the way, about the boring dems, let me disagree with you. Take the same
"Shit 4 Brain", IMHO, when watching it, especially for the first time, you won't really get bored.
Or take "Power Up", imho EXPLORER stuck many somewhere deep in FX.
Although, as a trackmo it is of course weaker.
Ofcoz about our "Psychosonic", I finally keep quiet, because We wrote it in just .... 9
days!!! Everything that was at hand or at hand was shoved in there :) In general, the tracks didn’t work out. And he never made it to E'97 itself (maybe it's for the best :))
In short, if anyone is interested, I can throw it into the echo.
But never mind, "FUNTOP" will soon, I hope we'll win back! :)

With utmost respect, Jocker/OHG/Mfa

AH> Well, don’t go in the same spirit, although the demo is not bad (in the
AH> sense of FX), but
AH> impressions of it are not entirely good. A very big jamb with
AH> IM2 loader,
AH> I'm on penta when loading parts for the music, the music itself
AH> the music itself is terribly slow.
AH> Well, okay, I'm the only one, so everyone I saw it in
AH> 5061 has the same jamb.
AH> In general, or I'm not doing something I understand, or one of the two :)
Yeah, the second ;)
It was a normal load, the disk should be a _not_fast_ format!

With the best, Denis.

>> that you can even die. But this one! Just fun and not a demo. BRAVO
>> CODEBUSTERS!!! Keep up the good work!
TV> have you seen the Infarct demo?
Can you throw it into the echo? The deme is certainly weak, but necessary for the collection.
It seems like they couldn’t find it anywhere on the Internet. And nowhere else are there
Burdensom Dream, Amigo and Ray - all with E97.

>> Well, don’t go in the same spirit, although the demo is not bad (in terms of FX), but
>> the impressions about it are not entirely good. There is a very big problem with the
>> loader, on my penta when loading parts for the music, the enta itself
>> the music is terribly slow.
TV> format the floppy disk in low format
I tried it - the same jamb. Although I'll try again just in case.

Sincerely yours.

09 Feb 98 at 12:37 Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich drank a bottle of beer and, starting
to slow down, wrote
for All the following:
>
> AP> was not given first place. To be honest, demos with E97 are so boring that
> AP> you could die. But this one! Just fun and not a demo. BRAVO CODEBUSTERS!!!
> AP> Keep up the good work!
TEV> have you seen the Infarct demo?
:))) INSULT? Or am I misunderstanding something?
TEV> multicolor - great!!!
On Pente - yes, but on others - crap.

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich to All Mon Feb 09 1998 at 12:37...

>> first place. To be honest, demos with E97 are so boring that you could die
>>. But this one! Just fun and not a demo. BRAVO CODEBUSTERS!!! Continue in
>> in the same spirit!
TV> have you seen the Infarct demo?
TV> multicolor - it's amazing!!!

By the way, of all the Inlight demos I've seen, Infarct is perhaps the most
beautiful. Exactly beautiful. Not cool, not fancy, but simply beautiful. If there had been such a clause in the rules of the inlight - for the audience's sympathy - she definitely could have been given. ;) The music there is _very_ pleasant. (for me). Just pleasant, not cool.
It seems that the demo was made from the heart, and not for the sake of prizes. It's a pity that she somehow passed by on the inlay, overshadowed by big names... However, that's how it should be, probably...

With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.

P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig). Released. :-P
P.P.S. I won't give it to anyone. Kick Larkov. :)

... Not every fall is down.

Fri 13 Feb 1998 15:19, Igor Gruzdev (2:5030/287.32) wrote to Tyukaev Eugene...
~~~~~~~~~~

IG> P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig) available.

"Already" ;)

>
>
> With all kinds of regards and wishes.
> Igor.
>
> P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig). Released. :-P
> P.P.S. I won't give it to anyone. Kick Larkov. :)

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Sergei Novikov to
Igor Gruzdev Sun Feb 15, 1998 at 7:51 pm...

SN> Fri Feb 13, 1998 3:19 pm, Igor Gruzdev (2:5030/287.32) wrote to Tyukaev
SN> Eugene... ~~~~~~~~~~
IG>> P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig) available.
SN> "Already" ;)

Not even six months have passed. ;) Or has it already passed?

TV> why is this?

Well, after all, coders, programmers, everyone needs the coolest effects, a new
word... It seems to me more that demos evaluate (when an in-light takes place,
let's say online) by first impression. Plus a bunch of coders shouting that you are putting the demo in first place, there are lame effects that any schoolchild can code... I exaggerate, of course. Coderipper was right when he wrote that the ideal comp appraisers are the people who come, make themselves comfortable, and carefully consider their decision. I told it a little chaotically, but the point is that, despite the coolness and well-deserved first place of Binarilov, I’m unlikely to watch it often. Like eyash2. Most likely,
when I want to watch something in-light, I will put power up, heart attack,
x_taz... But this is just my opinion.
And digital reality - they found a really cunning move in the demo, betting on
stunning the viewer. And the viewer bought it.
I’m not saying anything about the internals of the dem, I’m not a coder, I don’t dare to judge the coolness of the code. I reason as a spectator. And, hand on heart, being present at the launch, after the demonstration of binarilov, I already guessed that she would be among the winners. At least based on the reaction of the audience.

A bottle of papyrus floated to me, and on that papyrus it said that Tuesday
February 17, 1998 at 03:19, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote All:

TV> not weak at all, I liked it, although there is no arguing about tastes

Hmm, how would you evaluate it, because it is not known how the effect was made, maybe it was all rendered with sprites on the PC, or maybe it was installed in real time. Or let's say the codes are just
super, but the effect doesn't look very good, or vice versa IMHO you can offend people.
Although you can put a team of hackers in, let them break it and evaluate it :))

TV> artistry (I don't know how to put this here
TV> :) well, something like ratings in figure skating :))) huh?
TV> organizers! what's the idea? or is it already there?
IMHO a standard assessment is enough.

Once Igor Gruzdev 13 Feb 98 at 15:19 wrote, addressing Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich:

IG> P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig). Released. :-P
IG> P.P.S. I won't give it to anyone. Kick Larkov. :)

What is this, huh? It’s not going well...

All the best, Alexey.

> February 17, 1998 at 03:19, Tyukaev Eugene Vladimirovich wrote All:
>
> TV> not weak at all, I liked it, although there is no arguing about tastes
> >> It seems they couldn’t find it anywhere on the Internet. And nowhere else at all
> >> Burdensom Dream, Amigo and Ray - all from E97.
> TV> they didn’t bring this from Kharkov.
> I can throw Amigo, because... Our demo was made from Novocherkassk.

> you
> why are you putting the demo in first place, there are also lame effects that any schoolchild can
> code... I’m exaggerating, of course. Coderipper was right when
> he wrote that ideal comp appraisers are people who come, get comfortable
> and carefully consider their decision. I told it a little chaotically,
> but
> the point is that, despite the coolness and well-deserved first place
> of binarilov, I’m unlikely to watch it often. Like eyash2. Most likely,
> when you want to look at something in-light, I’ll put powerup, heart attack,
> x_taz... But that’s just my opinion.

AH> I can throw Amigo, because... Our demo was made from Novocherkassk.
We're waiting...Send it quickly...
<- With best regardz,Pavel ->

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TV> yeah, but I still don’t for some reason ;)

But I do. ;)) First things first. Then... At home... Thoughtfully... After all, in fact, nothing
special. (2DR: this is not an attack, this is true, by the way) And to receive a call from demo makers/dem lovers for the words in the demo 'Hiroshima, Chernobyl, Windows' is pure game populism. And the pictures (to be frank) are taken from a pisish demo. ;)

IG> Such a dema. It seems like it’s also inlight (only I forgot something,
IG> whether it was shown on inlight or not).
In principle, there is no difference - it was on the E97, it wasn’t... - it’s still in the echo.
IG> And I, yes. ;)) First things first. Then... At home... Thoughtfully... After all,
IG> actually, nothing special. (2DR: this is not an attack, this is so, to
IG>'s word) And the pictures (to be frank) are taken from the piss demo.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ I noticed only two,
everything else seemed to be native...
When I watched the demo for the first time, I especially liked these two pix - really
then I saw it on PC...(at least well drawn!).

TV> no, it won’t work like that - it will take a lot of time, etc. and hackers can
TV> turn out to be “theirs” ;)
Yes, that was a joke :)

>> IMHO a standard assessment is enough.
TV> no, it’s generally unclear by what (by what criteria) the
TV> demo is assessed!
TV> gentlemen, the organizers of PARTY!
TV> think about it!
I agree, let THEY decide, and we’ll write demos for now :)

TV> Eugene aka Point777

TV> demo! gentlemen, organizers of the PARTY! think about it!

Each viewer evaluates it differently. The total arithmetic of all ratings means
actual popularity. There is simply no time and
technical capabilities for expert assessments by professionals, debates and thoughtful assessments by viewers based on several criteria. (we would like an electronic voting system, like in the Duma ;)

TV> Eugene aka Point777

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
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PN> ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ I only noticed
PN> two,

Uh-huh. :)

PN> everything else seems to be native...

Native. By the way, I really didn’t like (although there’s really nothing to complain about,
and therefore purely IMHO) that the pictures in the demos took part in the graphic-composite. :( In the demo the picture looks right on topic, but it’s just a picture... It’s somehow repulsive.

PN> When I watched the demo for the first time, I especially liked these two pix -
PN> but then I saw it on PC... (at least they were well drawn!).

;) Likewise. The pictures are decent, as is the sketch. You have to be able to rip it off.

Friday February 13 1998 15:19, Igor Gruzdev wrote to Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich:

IG> By the way, of all the inlight dems I have seen, heart attack is perhaps the most
IG> beautiful. Exactly beautiful. Not cool, not fancy, but simply beautiful.
IG> If there were such a clause in the rules of the spotlight - for audience sympathy - she could definitely be given
IG>. ;) The music there is _very_ pleasant. (for me). It is
IG> that is pleasant, not cool. It seems that the demo was done from the heart, and not
IG> for the sake of prizes. It’s a pity that it somehow passed by on the inlite, overshadowed
IG> by big names... However, that’s how it should be, probably...

The point is not in the “big names”, but in the fact that it was made in the old style.
Old design, weak graphics and bad music.
Although in general the demo was made very nicely.

IG> P.S. And I already have e'97 grafix, music (int & dig) available.
IG> Released.
IG> :-P P.P.S. I won't give it to anyone. Kick Larkov. :)

This needs to be in the echo!

2VL: throw it in the echo! At least little by little, otherwise feha doesn’t go to many people.
PS: I already have it.

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

Friday February 20 1998 11:41, Igor Gruzdev wrote to Tyukaev Eugene
Vladimirovich:

IG> And I do. ;)) First things first. Then... At home... Thoughtfully... After all, actually
IG> nothing special. (2DR: this is not an attack, this is true, by the way) And getting
IG> a calling from demomakers/dem lovers for the words in the demo 'Hiroshima,
IG> Chernobyl, Windows' is pure game of populism. Yes, and the pictures (frankly
IG> speaking) are taken from a piss demo. ;)

Full hand re-drawing!

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · · · · Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

IG> According to rumors (_rumors_!) hacker Chris gave up on all this, plus we can’t wait for music from Lav
IG>... :(

johnny stunner was going to do the boot report, but amiga... :) in short, according to the latest
data there will be no report. and Hacker is busy studying/working.

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IG> in graphix-compo. :( In the demo, the picture looks on topic, but how simple
IG> the picture is... Somehow repulsive.
Highly depends on the author -:) Example: Power Up and Amigo - which pixes do you prefer
on gfx-compo?

IG> :) Hey! Fantopians! Is silence a sign of consent? Or did SOS's ideas take up everyone's
IG> attention?

How fast you are ;) We've already answered - we'll stick to the traditional framework.

IG> Igor.

DG> How fast you are ;) We have already answered - we will stick to the traditional
DG> framework.

It's a pity. :( However, with manual calculation this is natural.

IG>> there is no need, and therefore purely IMHO) that the pictures in the demos took part
IG>> in the graphic-composite. :( In the demo, the picture looks on topic, but how simple is the
IG>> picture... Somehow it’s repulsive.

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Artem Kharitonov to
Igor Gruzdev Sat Feb 21, 1998 at 11:58...

[blurred by rain] (about the heart attack demo)

IG>> and not for the sake of prizes. It's a pity that it somehow passed by on the inlite,
IG>> obscured by big names... However, that's how it should be, probably...
AH> It's not a matter of "big names", but the fact that it was made in the old style.
AH> Old design, weak graphics and bad music.
AH> Although in general it's a demo done very nicely.

Exactly. By the way, it would be interesting if people didn’t know/see the same old Lyra-2 or Shock-Megademo. What kind of place could you expect?

SN>> "Already" ;)

IG> Hе went and six months. ;) Or already pposhlo?

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IG> With all regards and wishes.
IG> Igor.

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AH> Full hand re-drawing!

I wasn’t surprised. I remember, back on the 48 keel spec with a tape recorder, I copied such a girl from a newspaper... Eh... But she didn’t survive. ;(
What I mean is that a hand-painted picture (even if not of very high quality)
always makes a more pleasant impression (not the same as the first one, but later, when examined). The soul of the master should be felt. ;)
By the way, the very last picture is in binary Love - where is she from? Self-written
or also where does full hand redrawing come from?

21 Feb 98 21:39, Artem Kharitonov reported by Igor Gruzdev about {Eye Ache 2 - bravo
CBS?}:

IG>> 'Hiroshima, Chernobyl, Windows' is a pure game of populism. And the pictures
IG>> (to be frank) are taken from a piss demo. ;)

AH> Full hand re-drawing!

Now you can’t prove it :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

IG>>> Yes, and the pictures (to be frank) are fucked up with pisish
IG>>> demos. ;)

AH>> Full hand re-drawing!

VM> Now you can’t prove it :))

Populism is populism, but how it’s presented!

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov