8-bit emulators...
ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»
From Tim Yunaev → To All 24 July 1997
May you have eighty-three bags of hryvnias, Konstantin!
Once upon a time, specifically Saturday July 19, 1997 at 20:33 Konstantin
Afendikov wrote Oleg Devjatkin:
OD>> Apple II, Atari 800/XL/XE, Atari emulators pulled from the internet ST,
OD>> Amiga...
KA> It’s better in the echo, since not everyone has the echo! The most important thing is
KA> offtopic Kidani emul!
What, not everyone has this junk (Amiga emulator) yet?
2OD: if this is it, then it’s already a fossil rarity.
=== Begin of file ===
The Emulator runs only with VGA Card, Microsoft compatible Mouse and
a minimum of 512K extended memory. The mouse has to be Microsoft
compatible on COM1:.
Kickstart 1.2, Version 33.192 will be emulated.
There is no hardware emulation, so only "clean" programed stuff
will run. (slowly)
The boot drive is Drive A, and if this is a 5m" you have to make
a copy of the 3 1/2....
=== End of file ===
If this is it, then it came out in 1992 and imho there’s no point in throwing it away.
If you want to look at the Amiga, make an agreement with someone from this echo and go take a look.
With respect, Tim. [Team AMD - Amiga Must Die]
[Team Aries Rulez Forever]
From Konstantin Afendikov → To All 25 July 1997
Hello, Tim!
Thursday July 24, 1997 18:05, Tim Yunaev wrote to Konstantin Afendikov these words:
TY> May you have eighty-three bags of hryvnias, Konstantin!
TY> Somehow a long time ago, specifically Saturday July 19, 1997 at 20:33 Konstantin
TY> Afendikov wrote Oleg Devjatkin:
[skipped]
TY> So, not everyone has this rubbish (Amiga emulator) yet?
TY> 2OD: if this is it, then it’s already a fossil rarity.
[skipped description of the emulator]
TY> If this is it, then it came out in 1992 and imho it’s not worth throwing it anywhere worth it.
If it’s really him, then don’t. We handed him a floppy disk with a kickstart, and
he spins the flop and silence... Zh8 (
TY> I want to look at the Amiga - make an agreement with someone from this echo and go
TY> look.
Zh8) I've seen enough of it, played enough with it, appreciated it and... forgot. Still, for
our brother PC is better!
TY> With respect, Tim. [Team AMD - Amiga Must Die]
Best wishes, Konstantin.
[Team ZX ASM] [Team DN] [Team DOOM] [Hell Team]
From Oleg Devjatkin → To All 26 July 1997
No, not him, but:
UAE 0.6.9 Win32/DirectX, release 12
For general information about UAE, refer to the following URL:
http://www.schokola.de/~stepan/uae/
Something under 95, the Amiga ROM image is shaking, which is not included in the kit due to
copyright protection :-)
From Yurok Merkulov → To All 27 July 1997
░▒▓█▓▒░░▒▓█▓▒░ ░ ░ Glad to welcome you, Alex!
[Friday July 25, 1997] when Alex Letaev wrote Felix Arzumanian, there was a shootout going on. The last cartridge hit the modem, and it issued:
AL> Be more surprised than LaMeRSTvU who wrote!!!
But I’m not. :)
AL> Since when did Motorola processors 68000 (Amiga, Atari) become 8-bit,
He didn’t say that.
AL> 16-bit computers (all except Stump Pro 32-bit commands execute
AL> slowly,
Very slowly, I can’t wait for the next command! (5x86-_160_)
AL> and therefore intended for working in 16-bit code,
And they’re not designed for 32-bit? I must admit, I really love the Amiga, but it’s not mine, but a friend’s... :(
The most interesting thing is that the Spektrumist never gets offended if you call him 8-bit, and if you run a little into Pishishnik or Amizhnik, that’s it, it’s a scam... :)
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From Alex Letaev → To All 27 July 1997
TY>> stands.
KA> If it’s really him, then don’t. We handed him a floppy disk with
KA> a kickstart, and
KA> he spins the flop and silence... Z8(
How else can the PCs sell the program? Say: “Of course it works, and
imulit!”!!! They will bite, and then they will spit, but they’ve already sold the program!
It’s good that Speckies don’t have the same software sales policy, and then, for example, I wrote MDK
in 1 day! And then it just wouldn’t work!
From Alex Letaev → To All 27 July 1997
YM> I don’t think so, I must admit, I love the Amiga very much, but it’s not mine
YM> it’s, but
YM> a friend’s... :(
Here I can say from the bottom of my heart: “I sympathize!”
YM> The most interesting thing is that the Spectrumist is never offended if call it
YM> 8-bit, and if you run a little into Pisishnik or Amizhnik, then that’s it
YM> it’s a scam... :)
Because it is 8-bit, and the best of 8-bit!!! And better
some 16-bit :-))) in some respects!
From Andrew MOA → To All 28 July 1997
On the day of 16 Jul 97 Oleg Devjatkin had the good fortune to write to All:
OD> Apple II, Atari 800/XL/XE, Atari ST, Amiga emulators were pulled from the Internet...
Since these are all less common computers here, it is not necessary (those who need it will pull it themselves, or get it one way or another).
To someone: Amizhniki they don’t need IBM PC emulators, and vice versa, by the way.
The topic, of course, is off-topic.
Andrew
From Yurok Merkulov → To All 28 July 1997
AL> They are not intended for 32-bit, since it is slower compared to
AL> other processors!
I would say that the reason for this is our OS, Windows. It is because of this that such an impression is created. It is essentially 16-bit, and of course, when we work with both 16 and 32-bit applications, it soon slows down. It's a different matter in OS/2,
there
everything is 32-bit, and the processor plows at full capacity, without "slowing down" on compatibility with
old applications.
So I don't agree with you about the sluggishness, the further we go, the more 32-bit applications on the PS outweigh.
AL> Okay, let's call them _pseudo_ 32-bit! :-)))
No! :)) No way. :) You're lucky, on the Amiga, in my opinion, everything was originally built for a 32-bit architecture, so you didn't waste years on
compatibility,
and, as a consequence, wild overclocking of processors to >200Mh.
From Andrew MOA → To All 28 July 1997
On the day 27 Jul 97 Alex Letaev had the good fortune to write to Konstantin Afendikov:
AL> Why watch if the PC is better for you, and why bother talking about it here? After all, the echo
AL> is called ZX.SPEKTRUM, and here it is possible to talk beyond the Spectrum
AL> only about other 8-bits. PC and Ami are not 8-bit!
=== Cut ===
Conference rules ZX.SPECTRUM, edition dated 3 Jun 97.
The main purpose of the conference is correspondence between admirers
of the good old Sinclair ZX Spectrum computer.
Additional - discussion of HE-IBM platforms|architectures,
discussion of any HOMEMADE computers.
■ TOPIC:
- everything related to the immortal creation of Sir Clive Sinclair;
- everything related to any 8-bit computers;
- everything related to homemade computers, even IBM-compatible ;
- everything related to computers with a bit size greater or less than 8,
except IBM-compatible.
{skipped}
- (+) topic: AMIGA and everything connected with it - TEMPORARY OFFTOpic!
(God knows - I didn’t want to, but I was forced) ;
{skipped}
=== Cut ===
From this it follows that there is no point in talking about either the Amiga or the IBM PC here.
You should also not compare the ZX Spectrum with anything.
Andrew
From Dmitry Zubarev → To All 29 July 1997
I've been wanting to have an Atari 800 for a long time, although it would be better if I had a 65... It won't be taken out, I hope...
Maybe you can throw it somewhere in the uyuki? (the attachments are being cut) Otherwise I have a current under
Atari console...
OD> Maybe it makes sense to slowly push them either here or into a file.
From Alex Letaev → To All 29 July 1997
Hello Yurok Merkulov! In a message of 28 Jul 97 Yurok Merkulov wrote to me:
[killed]
YM> So you and I _so far_ agreed on one thing: Spectrum is the best 8-bit
YM> computer.
OK!
From Vladimir Bogdanovitch → To All 29 July 1997
Hello Felix!
FA> I'm surprised at you, gentlemen Amizhnik, what kind of entertainment is this at any time
FA> to make fun of the PC, even in the Spectrum echo? :)
Try this computer yourself. I liked it better than RS.
Sorry for the off-topic.
Vladimir Bogdanovitch.
From Tim Yunaev → To All 29 July 1997
By the way, I plowed Altavista yesterday, she gave me links to "Amiga"
"Emulator", today I'll dig it up.
KA> Still, for our brother PC is better!
:-)
From Tim Yunaev → To All 29 July 1997
This, by the way, also applies to the “32-bit” 68000. Here. Now I’m listening to you.
Only with arguments, because I’m just tired of the screams “PENTIUM COUNTING WRONG”
“FUCKING WINDOWS IS BUGY”, etc. Everyone knows how to scratch their tongue, you don't need much intelligence here. And by the way, what do you think is the difference in speed between 68000 and 386DX40?
AL> (all except Stump Pro execute 32-bit commands slowly,
:)
You can read what was described above again.
AL> which means they are designed to work in 16-bit code, i.e. are
AL> 16-bit!),
Have you ever thought that, in fact, these processors are completely 32-bit (and higher), and
16-bit registers and operations were left for compatibility with old software?
IMHO your qualifications are too low for a technical discussion, and all
you can do is scold Windows and invent errors in the stumps (if you This will be a consolation, I will add that you are not the only one, and so far only two Amizhniks can
conduct a discussion technically competently).
AL> consider all computers except PCs to be 8-bit!!! Hurray for our (among the masses)
AL> education, but at the same time for some reason they get into conferences on computers,
AL> and even swear for explaining the truth (I already received soap)!!!
I received it correctly. If you have something to object to, go ahead.
AL> :-)))))))))))))))))))))It's really _AMAZING_ and _COOL_!!!
That's really cool :) Calling 486 a 16-bit processor is a nightmare. :(
P.S. I don’t know - maybe it’s the platform that has this effect, or age - in almost all
letters from users of your favorite computer there are _heaps_ of exclamation marks and
grammatical errors.
P.P.S. 2All: however, today a person wrote to me that there are a bunch of Amiga emulators
including for win and direct x. I’ll write to him - then it will be
seen.
P.P.P.S. But Motorola has very cool single-chip chips and bells and whistles for them.
From Michael Lihovidov → To All 31 July 1997
░░▒▒▓▓ Ave, Andrew, morituri te salutant ▓▓▒▒░░
Today [...Lost in the depths of MGTS...] AM> - everything related to the immortal creation of Sir Clive Sinclair; AM> {skipped} AM> From this it follows that it is not worth talking about either the Amiga or the IBM PC here And about Macs, Krays, Silicones, etc. is it possible? Long life and easy death to you
Andrew MOA bazaar with Alex Letaev, but I couldn’t keep silent:
AM> ■ TOPIC:
AM> - everything related to any 8-bit computers;
AM> - everything related to homemade computers, even IBM-compatible;
AM> - everything related to computers with a bit depth greater or less than 8,
AM> except IBM-compatible ones.
AM> - (+) topic: AMIGA and everything connected with it - TEMPORARY OFFTO-PIC!
AM> (God knows - I didn’t want to, but I was forced) ;
AM> {skipped}
AM> === Cut ===
AM>. You shouldn't compare the ZX Spectrum with anything either.
---------==ЁЁ Michael, aka Pilat YЁ==--
From Michael Markowsky → To All 1 August 1997
Hello, Michael!
Thu 23:40 31 Jul 1997 Michael Lihovidov writes to Andrew MOA:
ML> And about Poppies, Krays, Silicones, etc. is it possible?
Only if they are 8-bit :)
Best wishes! Michael KLUG
From Andrew MOA → To All 12 August 1997
It is possible (but without comparisons), there are not many users of such machines, they will not create much
traffic, and, as a rule, these are “civilized” people who behave
correctly. Then, if there are many of them, they usually combine over time into
specialized echoes. :)
Andrew