E ADO ZF6 - in fehu!

Monday September 22, 1997 01:42, Vyacheslav Mednonogov wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

DG>> Then why did you throw it?

VM> Let's separate one event from another. The editors of ZXF and its magazine are clearly not
VM> here, and we will leave it aside.

I agree. See subj ;)

VM> Why did Larkov do this? _IMHO_:
VM> a) clearly provocative letters from SN about the illegal
VM> distribution of the same ZXF6

So we agreed that ZXF had nothing to do with it...

VM> b) again from Moscow (and from SN) E97 demos and E97 graphics came, to
VM> while everyone knows that Larkov + Chris (as an organizer)
VM> are preparing release discs with graphics, music, demos

And what do demos have to do with Spectrophone? 8-( ) Moreover, those that are not from SN?
Is the SPF editors responsible for all of Moscow? (by the way, my hometown didn’t buy a single
SPF22/23 number... that’s true, by the way...)

VM> c) because. SN is a member of the STEP group (which means the group is responsible for
VM> his actions and statements),

Who decided this? What is the group's responsibility? Or maybe we should also call ourselves after the heroes of Dune or, um... "Great Jedi"? ;) Why is this pioneering? We are adults, independent people, who have proven our worth with our own publications (you must agree, the best that have ever been and, most likely, will beon
Spectrum... although, why would I talk about it ;), in which they were never shy
to express their _own_ point of view and have long been ready to take responsibility
for their actions. STEP is a brand that guarantees quality and
competence, and not a gang of young teenagers ;) By the way, Sergey is not a member of the editorial staff of SPF - one of the authors who wrote _most_ of the materials
of the last two issues, a special correspondent, according to the "copyrights", but not an editor. Consequently, he is not responsible for the project and does not make
responsible decisions on its account... In general, the STEP group is not only
Spectrophone ;)

VM> then apparently VL found the only way available to him to influence
VM> the situation.

A good way... An attempt to blackmail the editors of SPF ;( For some reason I thought that you would
exactly answer the question “Why did you do this Larkov?"... blackmail - short,
clear and, most importantly, true.

VM> However, _imho_:

What happened before this? Interpretation of Larkov's confused explanations? That's it, I see
there is no argumentation and the general position is rather weak... not your style ;)

VM> a) VL's actions, like SN's actions, are fundamentally wrong

Yes already... They also woke me up ;) What I mean is that before Larkov’s act, SPF
also, as it were, had nothing to do with it, there was a conflict only between SN andVL... And how did I
or Yuri offend VL?

VM> b) of course, explanatory work was carried out with VL (yes, VL and
VM> have their own heads on their shoulders e),

And where was she before that? And explanatory work is good, at least some benefit came from his actions for himself. I will also talk with Sergey on
the topic of piracy (demos from inlite)... although, by the way, he also has a head ;)

VM> and passwords for SPF would hardly have appeared very soon and _without_ permission
VM> gr.STEP

Here your “IMHO” is at odds with Larkov’s recent statement. And you yourself, probably
understand that it would be better if he didn’t set passwords.

VM> c) unfortunately, Seryoga panicked and solved the problem in the simplest
VM> way, so all other actions to resolve the conflict
VM> lost their meaning

Posting _normal_ releases is my decision (made without panic)... Well, I’m too lazy
to install allfix, I don’t need it... And what further actions would be taken to resolve the conflict between VL and SN? Cold War? Why? Stuff
more password-protected commercial releases into the facha and blackmail each other with knowledge
of the password... I stopped that... at least this...

VM> d) you can’t undo what’s been done e) let’s live together :)

Let’s, whoever is in the way... And let’s think before we act...

I don’t know why these games with Spectrophones excited me so much... NoI can
explain... I remember, however, how much time, how much labor and nerves were
spent on these numbers, given the simple lack of free time...
I remember the joy and relief experienced when the numbers were finally
ready. The joy was premature, since we were still faced with fruitless and, at times, humiliating attempts to properly sell our work... How many people had to be disappointed (although, with the exception of a couple of cases, this was not their fault), how many worldviews had to change... And what in the end? Instead of reviews and, what is there
to hide, decent payment for work - the prospect of paying authors from your own
pocket, and it’s still not clear who is waving your own
many months of work in front of your nose... it’s not clear for what... I didn’t participate in the SN/VL showdown,
I didn’t even know about them... (Something gets me again - who cares?) I
understand that Larkov belongs to someone else treats his work the same as he treats his own,
without a care, but I have the right to my own opinion about my own work and
the right to defend this opinion (although I don’t feel the desire to bang my head against the wall again, which means I’ll give up quickly).

2ALL: Please send all further questions, offended letters and claims related to this
incident to _me_ and _soap_. And if you are interested in
an answer/explanation, do not forget to mention this circumstance...

VM> C warm regards, Slava!

:)

Regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
old...@i-connect.ru

DG> Who decided this? What is the group's responsibility? Or maybe we too
DG> call ourselves after the heroes of Dune or, um... "Great Jedi"? ;)
DG> Why is this pioneering?
So, dear Dmitry Grigoriev... I didn’t understand who you meant by
“heroes of Dune” and “Great Jedi”?
You... why are you... involving me in this????????!!!!!!!!
Did you want to flame again? ?????!!!!!!
[.....]
DG> take responsibility for your own actions. STEP is a trademark
DG> guaranteeing quality and competence, and not a gang of young teenagers
DG> ;)
Show the license for this “trademark” of yours.
You should at least be ashamed to throw around such words... Where is your “TM” badge?
Or have you again heard enough of someone’s arguments about copyright?
DG> By the way, Sergey is not a member of the editorial board of the SPF - one of the authors
DG> who wrote _most_ of the materials in the last two issues, a special
DG> correspondent, according to the “copyrights”, but not the editor.
And only the “editor” is a “member of the editorial board”? It's fun... And these people read morals to us...
[.....]

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (WITH)Апия.

22 Sep 97 05:23, Dmitry Grigoryev reported by Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {E ADO ZF6
- in fehu!}:

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DG> I don’t know why these games with Spectrophones excited me so much... I can’t
DG> explain...

No It's just unpleasant for you. I'm especially not happy that this thing happened incl. and through the fault of Peter :(

Warm greetings, Slava!