DR projects releazE daTe

Many people, I think, are interested in the subject!
PAraDISE lOST - MegaBall - GoblIns (interested: was it a joke or work
began?) - DooM - ...

<- With Best ReGardZ foR U & oNlY...!
ViRtUal/+=SileNce CriOniX=+'98

Sunday April 05 1998 18:38, Pavel Nikonov wrote to Artem Haritonov:

PN> Many, I think, are interested in the subject!
PN> PAraDISE lOST -

Unknown...

PN> MegaBall -

Maybe soon, we haven’t decided on the details and the final form yet...

PN> GoblIns (interesting: was it a joke or did the work
PN> begin?) -

The work was carried out, even the graphics were ready (sprites of all the goblins), but the
leader-coder of the project went into the ranks of the Russian Army...

PN> DooM - ...

Very soon =) Today is another developer consultation-forum, so that...

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

AH> The work was carried out, the graphics were even ready (sprites of all the goblins), but
AH> the leader-coder of the project went into the ranks of the Russian Army...
PN>> DooM - ...
AH> Very soon =) Today is another developer consultation-forum, so...
Hey... The three most promising projects are frozen. All efforts are being directed towards the fourth, the playability of which, frankly speaking, is in great doubt...
It seems that everyone has completely forgotten about SGENERGY, only your next promises
awaken some distant, long-forgotten memories...
And at this time you are starting another project? "History of the release scene" ?
Sorry, but I get the impression that you are _NOT_ _ONE_ project and are not
going to see it through to completion. That all this is just a game of hype. "Digital
Reality is a very promising group" (C) V. Mednogov (I think).

P.S. This reminds me a lot of the situation with Spectrum's Dune - a bunch of people just showed off, declaring to the whole world "I'm making Dune!!!!!" But we never saw a single
Dune...

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

EM> they just showed off, declaring to the whole world “I’m making Dune!!!!!”. But
EM> we never saw a single
EM> Dune...

By the way, what happened to it? Something hasn’t been heard for a long time, although there seemed to be information that
writing is continuing.

ALL<= Anyone know?

Regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

>e-mail: as...@usa.net

ÛˇÂM>> –pœ”‘œ-‘¡À… ◊Ÿ–≈Œƒp…Ã…”ÿ, ⁄¡—◊…◊ ◊”≈Õ’ Õ…p’ "Ò ƒ≈á¿ ‰¿Œ’ !!!!!".
ÛˇÂÏ>> Hœ, Œ… œƒŒœ  ‰¿ŒŸ ÕŸ ‘¡À … Œ≈ ’◊…ƒ≈Ã…...

AL> Δ‘¡, ¡ fi‘œ ” Œ≈ ? ˛‘œ-‘œ ƒ¡◊Œœ Œ≈ ∆…«¡ Œ≈ ”߀Œœ, »œ‘— ◊“œƒ≈ ¬ŸÃ¡ …Œ∆¡,
AL> fi‘œ Œ¡–…”¡Œ…≈ –“œƒœÃ÷¡≈‘ÿ”—.

Ï≈Œÿ ◊”≈Õ’ ◊…Œœ  =(

AL> ALL<= Αœ Œ…¬’ƒÿ ⁄Œ¡≈‘?

· fi‘œ, Γœ–¡fi≈◊¡ Œ¡ #amigarus Œ≈‘?

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

EM> pœ”‘…, Œœ ’ Õ≈Œ— ”Àჟ◊¡≈‘”— ◊–≈fi¡‘Ã≈Œ…≈, fi‘œ ◊Ÿ _HÈ_ _Ô‰ÈH_ –pœ≈À‘
EM> … Œ≈ ”œ¬…p¡≈‘≈”ÿ ƒœ◊œƒ…‘ÿ ƒœ ÀœŒ√¡.

‰¡ ◊”≈Õ –Ã≈◊¡‘ÿ, fi‘œ ‘¡Õ ’ ‘≈¬— ”Àჟ◊¡≈‘”— … «ƒ≈.

EM> "Digital Reality - ÕŒœ«œ_œ¬≈›¡¿›¡— «p’––¡" (Û) ˜.Ì≈ƒŒœ«œ◊ (À¡÷≈‘”—).

ÔŒ «œ◊œ“…à ‹‘œ €’‘—, Œ≈ ‘œ fi‘œ Œ≈Àœ‘œ“Ÿ≈ –“…ƒ’“À….

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

EM> Hey... The three most promising projects have been frozen. All forces
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wait a minute, what are these 3 projects? I don’t know anything about this, although in my opinion I am the author of one and practically a co-author of another. Apparently in this matter you are more informed than us :)))

EM> have been thrown to the fourth, the playability of which, frankly speaking, is under
EM> great doubt... It seems that everyone has already forgotten about SGENERGY, only
Well, for you it may be in doubt, but here you need to listen to the opinion
of the majority, and it says - "DOOM - rulezz!". So there you go! And your opinion
is completely lost among the many opposite ones!
And Scenergy calculates: if it seems, you need to be baptized! :) (This is not an attack, but a proverb). But in reality, everything is as follows: All the codes were ready already
a month ago, but we were waiting for materials from PHT, which were ready only at the
beginning of April, but now, unfortunately, I can’t do anything, because
On April 14th I have a state license. exams. I’ll rent it out - you’ll have Scenergy!

EM> your next promises awaken some distant, long-forgotten
EM> memories... And at this time you are starting another project?
EM> “History of the release scene”? Sorry, but I get the impression
Yes, we're getting started! And this project will also see the light of day inits time :)

EM> that you are _NOT_ _ONE_ project and are not going to finish it. That's all
Sorry, but your impression is false. Imho, then it would not be worth starting
any of the projects.

EM> this is just a game for hype. “Digital Reality is a very promising group” (C) V. Mednogov (I think).

With best wishes, Flying/DR

... -= Digital Reality =-
~~~ Blue Wave v2.12

AL> By the way, what’s wrong with her? Something hasn’t been heard for a long time, although there seemed to be information
AL> that the writing continues.
2-3 years? IMHO, unlikely.

Friday April 10 1998 22:15, Spirit ─── Evgeny Milun:

[ ...the greeting was skipped, and I don’t hope that I didn’t notice it... ]

EM>> Sorry, but I get the impression that you are _NOT_ _ONE_ project
EM>> and you are not going to finish it.
S> Yes, no one cares what is going on with you and where.
That’s what I see, people are asking more and more “When will these
valiant guys finish at least one of their projects?”

EM>> “Digital Reality is a promising group” (C) В.Медногов (кажется).
S> Он говорил это шутя, не то что некоторые придурки.
^^^^^^^^^ :))))))))))))))))))))
Эка тебя пpобpало. Oh well, I'm not offended by you. Do you know the saying “Insults are the main weapon of FlameLamer”? :)

AG> Well, for you it may be in doubt, but here you need to listen to the opinion of the
AG> majority, and it says - “DOOM - rulezz!” So here it is!
:)))))))) Shouting “Doom - rulezzz”, “_Spectrum_ Doom - rulezz!”,
and having an alternative - IBM, playing Spectrum Doom - three
BIGGER differences. Don’t forget, this...
I also think that Doom for the Spectrum is cool, but not in the sense that
it’s a cool game, but in the fact that it’s cool “saddled” with the capabilities of the Spectrum... Or do you
think that everyone who saw the same IBM Doom (and even more so - Kwaku) will abandon
all this and start with lust play Spectrum? Don't be so naive... The most common review I've heard is "Cool for the spectrum, but in itself - nothing particularly interesting."
OK. Since you're a co-author, then let's do a little marketing research. Answer the question - "Why are games like DOOM and
QUAKE so fascinating?" Did you answer? And what? That's right - with its internal virtual world, and in Kwak this world is more realistic than in the Duma. And now answer one more question - “And you, as an author, will be able to implement in the SPECTRUM Duma a virtual world that is not inferior, or even superior, to IBM’s?”
That’s when you will not just give a verbal answer to this, butshow a program
in which this world is better, then let's return to your sarcastic words to
my address... So here it is!

AG> And your opinion is completely lost among the many opposite ones!
So what? What, should I now adapt to others? :)
“I walked against the wind,
I walked ahead,
Into the world of strangers
And free people
But I was never
A slave of illusions.”

AG> And the tasche
AG> Scenergy: if it seems, you need to be baptized! :) (This is not an attack, but a proverb). A
AG> in fact, everything is as follows: All the codes were ready a month
AG> ago, but we were waiting for materials from PHT, which were ready only at the beginning of
AG> April, but now, unfortunately, I can’t do anything, because April 14
AG> I have state. exams. If I rent it out, you'll have Scenergy!
Finally. (This is not an attack... It’s just that I personally have already hesitated
to answer people’s questions “Well, when will Doom and Sgenergy be there?”)

AG> is the opinion of the majority, and it says - “DOOM - rulezz!”.
Unambiguous rulez, even if not quite similar to PC, but still rulez.
AG> but a proverb). But in reality, everything is as follows: All the codes were
AG> ready a month ago, but we were waiting for materials from PHT, which were
AG> ready only at the beginning of April,
Summary of the issue..... unless of course this is not a secret.
AG> however, now, unfortunately, I cannot do anything
AG>, because On April 14th I have state. exams. I'll hand it over -
AG> you will have Scenergy!
All that remains is to wipe the noses of the examiners!
EM>> project? "History of the release scene"? Sorry, but I
EM>> have the impression

PN> Однозначный rulez, пусть и не совсем похож на PCшный, но все равно rulez.
"Я деpусь, потому что - деpусь" (С) Поpтос.
Кpичать "pулезззззззззззззззззззззззззззззззззь" может сколько угодно и
кто угодно, а вот обосновать это... Ты, can you? Then justify it with facts...
I'm all ears. Conduct a comparative analysis and publish the results.

PN> and multi-executive? (imho)
An example of at least 2 completed projects, versus the pile of “work has begun on
project xxx.”
EM>>> group”

AG>> «œ‘œ◊Ÿ ’÷≈ Õ≈”—√ Œ¡⁄¡ƒ, Œœ ÕŸ ÷ƒ¡Ã… Õ¡‘≈p…¡Ãœ◊ œ‘ PHT, Àœ‘œpŸ≈ ¬ŸÃ…
AG>> «œ‘œ◊Ÿ ‘œÃÿÀœ ◊ Œ¡fi¡Ã≈ ¡–p≈×,
PN> Γ¡‘Àœ≈ ”œƒ≈“÷¡Œ…≈ ŒœÕ≈“¡.....≈”Ã… ‹‘œ ÀœŒ≈fiŒœ Œ≈ ”≈À“≈‘.

HœÕ≈“ ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘¡√…œŒŒŸ , ¬≈”–á‘ŒŸ  -> ‘≈À”‘œ◊ ‘œÃÀœÕ Œ≈‘. #0 ◊≈ƒÿ. ˜œ‘ ¬’ƒ≈‘
–≈“◊Ÿ  ŒœÕ≈“, ¬’ƒ≈‘ … À’fi¡ …Œ∆œ. Hœ ’÷≈ ⁄¡ ƒ≈Œÿ«….

EM>>> ‹‘œ - ‘œÃÿÀœ …«p¡ Œ¡ ¡÷…œ‘¡÷. "Digital Reality - ÕŒœ«œ_œ¬≈›¡¿›¡—
PN> … ÕŒœ«œ◊Ÿ–œÃŒ—¿›¡—? (imho)

≈“◊¡— ¡À”…œÕ¡ …”À’””‘◊¡ ◊Ÿ÷…◊¡Œ…—: Œ≈ ”–œ“ÿ ” Õ…Ã’Œ¡Õ… ;)

EM>>> «p’––¡"

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

AG>> are ready only at the beginning of April, but now, unfortunately, I can’t do anything
AG>>, because On April 14th I have state. exams. I'll rent it out -
AG>> you'll have Scenergy!
EM> Finally. (This is not an attack... It’s just that I personally have already hesitated
EM> to answer people’s questions “Well, when will Doom and Sgenergy be there?”)

You? Poor... It turns out that in addition to the people's tribune, you are also the people's
informant!? Bravo... But Senoji still learn to write.

EM> (Ksati, about “listening to the opinion of the majority”... Don’t you
EM> know that in this echo they don’t really like everything related to the “release
EM> scene” and intros?

Who doesn’t? You yourself and a couple more.....

EM> So, don’t you think that when working on the project “History
EM> of the release scene in the intro”, it wouldn’t hurt to listen to
EM> the voice of the people?)

²Flying: Read - to the voice of the people’s tribune, speaker, informant + Jedi and
Paul Atreides (as he himself calls), in short, J. Miluna.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

EM> ^^^^^^^^^
EM> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Oh well, I'm not offended by you. Do you know the saying “Insults are the main weapon
EM> of FlameLamer”? :)

Keep quiet - you might pass for smart. Your problem is that even when
you don't know how to answer, you answer anyway. Usually out of place.

Cemetry. It's one o'clock
Of office hour and in the distant rock
It's time for the sound of slaves
Waking up to open their graves
One, two, three and four
Grave by grave, more and more
Commemoration of transportation
Princes of a lost generation...
The shadows of the night
Are never dying of satisfying
They build the high descries
Waiting for another advice
Never fall final piece -
Their restless life will never seize
When the moon is shining bright
They leave their graves as shadows of the night...

DJ Bobo, Shadows of the Night (≈).

EM> ■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it.

About you.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

PN>> rulez.
[here was the text...]
EM> Anyone and everyone can shout “rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz” way as much as anyone
EM> anyone and anyone can, but justify it... Can you? Then
EM> justify it with facts... I'm all ears. Conduct a comparative analysis, and
EM> publish the results.
Here we go....
D00M on Spec - rulez! Will this explanation work?
I won’t play it - that’s for sure! (I don’t even like it on PC...)
But as a game, it’s worth a look.... although I liked the CitadeL demo more
.

EM> An example of at least 2 completed projects, versus the pile of “started
EM> work on project xxx.”
EM>>>> group”
Increasing the prestige of DR is not my job!

Thu Apr 16 1998 20:23, Spirit wrote to Pavel Nikonov:

S> Demo number, free -> there are really no texts. #0 after all. Here
S> there will be the first number, there will be a lot of information. But for money.
So the emphasis will be placed again on the shell?

EM> "release scene" and interiors?
No, a little wrong, imho. The history of the release scene is very interesting until the moment when it, or rather the release process, turns into a DEMO (intro?:) structure. When they started attaching the released toy to the demo. From
this moment it becomes interesting only to a narrow circle of the releasers themselves (or rather
demomakers).

All the best.
With respect, Roman Milukov.

PN> Here we go....
PN> D00M on Spec - rulez! Will this explanation work?
Such ??? Of course - NO.
PN> I won’t play it - that’s for sure! (I don’t even like it on PC...)
That’s why... Although...
I had this somewhat strange thought: “How can you even
compare DOOM and say 'SPECTRUM DOOM - RULEZZZZZZZZZ', if
you "ARE YOU NOT INTERESTED IN THIS GAME AT ALL" ???????!!!!!!!!!
For example, how can _YOU_ compare whose tea is better - Ceylonese or
Georgian, if _YOU_ don't like tea???!!!
PN> But as a game - it's worth a look... although I prefer CitadeL demo
PN> I liked it.
Don't you think that you and I are talking about different things? I'm telling you (moreover, as a person who "favors" this game on the PC), that there is nothing to look at just "as a game" in the Spectrum-Molsk Duma, but as a "program that makes good use of computer resources" - there is something to look at.

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

EM>>>>> this is just a game of hype. "Digital Reality - a lot_promising
PN>>> and a lot of fulfillment? (imho)
EM>> An example of at least 2 completed projects, as opposed to the pile of "work has begun
EM>> work on project xxx."
EM>>>>> group"

PN> That is, the emphasis will be placed again on the shell?
Well, didn’t you really want something else from the magazine, which, according to the
authors, should “eclipse the rest of the world”? ;))))

EM> ???????????
EM> It seems I asked you not to “increase the prestige of DR”, but
EM> “to give reasons for your words.” Don't you think that these are not the same thing
EM>? :)
If you have already decided to attack them (Step for example bad game modifications>), then it means they did something. n-number of
crackwaRe and deMO-constrUction + FasT TracKer+ PassIance.
Well, the fact that they did not release their original works on time is not them alone.

PN>> I'm sorry...)
EM> That's why... Although...
EM> I had this somewhat strange thought: "How can you even
EM> compare DOOM and say 'SPECTRUM DOOM -
EM> RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" THIS GAME"
EM> ???????!!!!!!!!!
What do you mean I'm interested? I beat it, went through deathmatch.....and found another
game to play. I didn't touch her anymore. For me, a good game is no more than any other.
EM> Don't you think that we are talking about different things? I'm telling you
EM> (moreover, as a person who "compasses" this game on the PC), that just "like a
EM> game" in the Spectrum Duma is nothing to look at, but like a
EM> "program that makes good use of computer resources" - there is something to look at.
Who doesn't has a PC - will appreciate the masterpiece.

S>> HœÕ≈“ ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘¡√…œŒŒŸ , ¬≈”–á‘ŒŸ  -> ‘≈À”‘œ◊ ‘œÃÀœÕ Œ≈‘. #0 ◊≈ƒÿ. ˜œ‘
S>> ¬’ƒ≈‘ –≈“◊Ÿ  ŒœÕ≈“, ¬’ƒ≈‘ … À’fi¡ …Œ∆œ. Hœ ’÷≈ ⁄¡ ƒ≈Œÿ«….

PN> Ù.≈ ’–œ“ ¬’ƒ≈‘ ”ƒ≈ጠœ–—‘ÿ Œ¡ œ¬œÃœfiÀ’?

H¡ ◊”≈. Hœ Œ≈ ◊ Œ’Ã≈◊œÕ, ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘¡√…œŒŒœÕ ŒœÕ≈“≈.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

PN> If you decided to attack them (Step, for example, PN> bad game alterations>), then it means they did something.
Firstly, I did not decide to attack anyone, I just stated a fact -
the number of “work has begun on the project” is growing, but the number “finally finished
work on the project” is still very small.
So in this case, and in fact, as always, the phrase “did something” is not always equivalent to the phrase “wrote a program.”

PN> n-number of crackwaRe and deMO-constrUction + FasT TracKer+ PassIance.
We are definitely speaking different languages... I'll try again.
Read your lips carefully:
"I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE CRACKS AND DEMICS FOR ENLIGHT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THEIR
PROJECTS"

PN> Well, the fact is that they did not release their original works in deadline - they are not alone.
PN> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I’ll try to explain again:
1) If you set a deadline for yourself, and for the whole world announced “this will be
cool, you’ve never seen anything like this before”, and you don’t carry it out yourself, then...
references “I’m not the only one” smack of childhood very much. Especially if this
(missing deadlines) becomes a systematic matter.
2) If you see that “deadlines are running out,”Then wouldn’t it be easier to single out one from a bunch of projects and throw ALL your efforts at it, after its completion, do the same with the other? And is it not, to put it mildly, in this situation, to announce the start of work on another new project?
3) If your group has not 1-2 people, but more, and you say that you skillfully organize work in it, then there will be a heap of missed deadlines projects being done in parallel speaks precisely about our inability to lead. (In 2-3 years, you will (should
have) the topic “Network Graphs” in one of the subjects related to economics. Familiarize yourself with it at least superficially, and you
will immediately understand why I am talking about inept leadership...)

PN> Those who don’t have a PC will appreciate the masterpiece.
“For lack of fish and cancer - fish”? It's a good saying, but it was applied in the wrong place. Since Spectrum's Doom cannot be an exact copy of PC's, then the authors
should not follow the path of "copying one to one", but take as an example
UFO-1 and UFO-2, where even the very concept of the games was slightly changed, as a result of which the games turned out to be more "playable" than even on PC.

AG> Well, for you it may be in doubt, but here you need to listen to the opinion
AG> of the majority, and it says - “DOOM - rulezz!” So here it is!
EM> :)))))))) Shouting “Doom - rulezzz”, “_Spectrum_ Doom -
EM> rulezz!”, and having an alternative - IBM, playing Spectrum Doom
EM> - three BIGGER differences. Don't forget, this is...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That's it! Now come down from the heights of your stump (or whatever it is you have) and look around! And you will see a LOT of people
who fortunately do not have a PC at home, but have a Speccy and FOR THEM it is _SPEC-
TRUMOVSKY_ D00M - rulez! And not at all a pissy one, which they don’t care about due to
its inaccessibility! And we focus on THOSE people, and not on people
like you and others like you, who sit on their pussies and lazily play
wack, occasionally remembering Speccy and loading the emulator to see what's new there!

EM> I also think that Doom for the Spectrum is cool, but not in the
EM> sense that it’s a cool game, but in the sense that the capabilities of the
EM> Spectrum are coolly “saddled”... Or do you think that everyone who has seen the same IBM Doom (and
EM> even more so - Kwaku), will abandon all this and lustfully start playing the Spectrum
EM> ? Don't be so naive... The most common review
EM>which _I_ heard - "For the Spectrum - cool, but in itself -
EM> nothing particularly interesting."
I just don’t understand - why do you always give me as an example the opinions of some pisishniks about which I have absolutely nothing to do?!
To be honest, I’m deeply in parallel - they will be playing D00M on Spec
or Kwaku on PC is their own business and has absolutely nothing to do with me! I repeat once again - give the opinions of those people _FOR_WHICH_ games are written on the Spectrum! Those. opinions of _SPECTRUM_ users, not pussy!

Most likely as a collection of ints sorted by commands and in chronological
order, so that you can track the history of the development of the team in its ints!
There will also be a shell (something like a boot) from where all this will be launched.

EM>> this is just a game for hype. "Digital Reality - a high-promising
PN> and high-fulfilling group? (imho)
EM>> group"
Thank you for your support!

S> That's all. But not in the zero, demo number.
Here I thought and thought....What exactly are you going to demonstrate in the zero,
demonstration number? Although it’s probably easier to wait and see...

Once I was in a museum and there on an old, old stone an ancient man carved that
Wednesday April 22, 1998 right at 15:27, Evgeny Milun wrote to Pavel Nikonov:

EM> 1) If you set a deadline for yourself, and for the whole world announced “this
EM> will be cool, you’ve never seen anything like this before,” and you yourself don’t
EM> carry it out, then... the references “I’m not the only one” very much smack
EM> of childhood. Especially if this (missing deadlines) becomes a systematic
EM> thing.
Listen, well, enough about deadlines and plans. You yourself must understand that the majority of software on spec is made not by companies, but by the most ordinary types. And this
means that it is more of a hobby than a business. And especially since you personally lost
from the fact that someone delayed the release of their project for nnn amount of time???
Of course, over time you lose interest in them, but still you shouldn’t be so
annoyed about this.

EM> in it, then the failure to meet deadlines for a bunch of projects being done in parallel
EM> speaks precisely of your inability lead. (In 2-3 years, you will have (should have) a topic
EM> “Network Graphs” in one of the subjects related to economics. Familiarize yourself with it at least superficially, and you will immediately
EM> understand why I’m talking about inept management...)
If only you had one like thisdiscipline like “Superchargers and thermal
engines”, then we would talk about an even more interesting topic :)))

EM> Good luck! Evgeny.

Wiz zE BeSt WisHeZ 2 U!
-=JoCkeR/OmEga HaCkErS Grp/1998year=-

EM> Ú¡⁄ ”–≈À‘p’Õœ◊”À…  ‰’Õ Œ≈ Õœ÷≈‘ ¬Ÿ‘ÿ ‘œfiŒœ  Àœ–…≈  –√€Œœ«œ, ‘œ
EM> ¡◊‘œp¡Õ Œ≈ ”‘œ…Ãœ ¬Ÿ …ƒ‘… –œ ‘pœ–≈ "Àœ–…pœ◊¡‘ÿ œƒ…Œ ◊ œƒ…Œ",

Ò ‰ıÌ¡¿, ‘¡Õ …‘¡À ÀœŒ◊≈“”…— Œ≈ "1 ◊ 1". =ó}

EM> ¡ ◊⁄—‘ÿ ⁄¡ –p…Õ≈p HÏÔ-1 … HÏÔ-2, «ƒ≈ ƒ¡÷≈ ”¡Õ¡ ÀœŒ√≈–√…— …«p ¬ŸÃ¡
EM> Œ≈ÕŒœ«œ …⁄Õ≈Œ≈Œ¡,

Ë◊¡‘…‘ À Ûá◊≈ –œƒÃ…⁄Ÿ◊¡‘ÿ”—. H…fi≈«œ «Ãœ¬¡ÃÿŒœ«œ ◊œ ◊‘œ“œ  fi¡”‘… Œ≈ …⁄Õ≈Œ≈Œœ,
“¡⁄◊≈ fi‘œ ’–“œ›≈Œœ Àœ≈-fi‘œ.

EM> ◊ p≈⁄’Ãÿ‘¡‘≈ fi≈«œ …«pŸ –œÃ’fi…Ã…”ÿ ¬œÃ≈≈ "…«p¡¬≈ÃÿŒŸ", fi≈Õ
EM> ƒ¡÷≈ Œ¡ –√.

Ùœ÷≈ Œ≈◊≈“Œœ. …”…€ŒŸ≈ ◊¡“…¡Œ‘Ÿ ¬œÃ≈≈ …«“¡¬≈ÃÿŒŸ ⁄¡”fi≈‘ _√◊≈‘Œœ _ «“¡∆…À…. Ӂ
¬Ÿ Œ¡ ”–≈À‘“’Õ≈ Õœ÷Œœ ¬ŸÃœ “≈¡Ã…⁄œ◊¡‘ÿ ‘¡À’¿ ÷≈ «“¡∆…À’, –…”…€ŒŸ≈ ◊¡“…¡Œ‘Ÿ ¬ŸÃ…
¬Ÿ »’÷≈.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

Gentlemen, but when will it appear?

PN> <- With Best ReGardZ foR U & oNlY...!
PN> ViRtUal/+=SileNce
CriOniX=+'98

Sincerely, Alexander/Merlin. CMTG/Chaos Corp

...I love nightlife! (c) V.Dracula
-+- SMM version 1.08

What will it demonstrate if there is no emphasis placed on anything, since it is zero? :)

I.e. Don’t you see that our zero-free demo
failed, buy the first one - everything will be cool there?
Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

22 Apr 98 Denis Dmitriev was chomping at the bit in the hope that Pavel Nikonov would read about
DR projects release daTe, I read it and decided to answer:

DD> PS: by the way, I have a citadel lying around here, which is also
DD> colorful on
DD> two-thirds of the screen... Stalker tried when he saw the pre-release of
DD> by DR
DD>. Well, a little slower. But, duh!!! ;))))
Well, then you bring it here, we’ll all see how it really is SO.

Sincerely, Andrey.

... The hedgehog is a proud bird: if you kick it, it won’t fly!

23 Apr 98 15:38, Spirit reported to Evgeny Milun about {DR projects release daTe}:

EM>> and take UFO-1 and UFO-2 as an example, where even the very concept of the games was
EM>> slightly changed,

S> Stop sucking up to Slava. Nothing major has been changed in the second part
S>, except that some things have been simplified.

You have blinders on your eyes, but Evgeniy sees the root of the &-!

Warm greetings, Slava!

[ Powered by Windows'95 ]

S> Also incorrect. Pisish options are more playable due to the _color_
S> graphics. If the same graphics could be implemented on the Spectrum,
S> the writing options would be worse.

No, Sereg. The first part cannot be compared with the first pisish, since it is a different
genre, and on Speccy for fans of the Cannon Foder genre this is the best option that
could only be. And since the largest number of people love
a dynamic strategy, then imho the Spectrum UFO-1 is superior to the pisish one in
playability.

With respect, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

>e-mail: as...@usa.net

AH> Listen, maybe enough about deadlines and plans. You yourself must understand that
AH> most software on spec is made not by companies, but by the most ordinary types.
So. It looks like you don’t know either... I won’t retell everything
(although, if you want, I’ll forward you my letters). In a word, the way Artie
presents to us his degree of participation in the work of DR gives reason to believe that
he almost organized a company there.
"... to mention only what, in my opinion, I can do well: this is
managing and understanding people, doing business and finding new and
progressive things that are not seen others... "
I think that's enough? It only remains to add that this was said
in a very didactic context as recently as October 1997 (i.e. quite
recently)... The reason for this conversation was Arti’s phrase - “you haven’t done anything at all except the leftmost (in terms of coding and the content of the magazine about BEROH),
and also some kind of crooked releases."

AH> A
AH> this means that this is more of a hobby than a business. And especially since you personally
AH> lost because someone delayed the release of their project for nnn amount
AH> of time??? Of course, over time you lose interest in them, but still you shouldn't
AH> get so annoyed about this.
Me personally? Only one thing - I don’t like it when people start talking nonsense in front of me,and
then it turns out... "hobby". Otherwise everything is fine...

AG> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That's it! Now come down from the heights of your
AG> stump (or whatever it is you have) and look around! And you will see a LOT of people,
AG> who fortunately do not have PC at home, but have Speccy and FOR THEM it is _SPEC-
AG> TRUMOVSKY_ D00M - rulez!
And now _you_ come down from the heights... mmmm... something (:))), and you will see
that:
1) I am “realist” and I write my programs primarily for them.
(In particular, programs for accessing Fido from the Spectrum) :)) The fact that I have a stump at work, and I access Fido from it, should not confuse you...
2) There is such a saying “without fish, cancer is fish.” This is all I mean, then
if you had given this program a different name, and not DOOM, IMHO, its
popularity would have been much less. Since:
a) its virtual world is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo my of my of
B. For example - DRAK SIDE, DRILLER, some other fantasy game, etc. Their virtual worlds are much better than this Pokotsano-Dumovsky one,
in which the range of vision is limited to only 2-3 steps.
3) This opinion is not mine personally, it is shared by a lot of people.

AG> Anot at all pissy, which they don’t care about due to
AG> its inaccessibility! And we focus on THOSE people, and not on people like you and others like you, who sit on their pussies and lazily play croak, occasionally remembering Speccy and loading the emulator to see what's new there!
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Who told you this about me? Artie? Novikov? Or did you come up with it yourself? Then I explain - I write _ALL_ my programs at home, on SCORPION, and on it I work with all the programs. I use emulators only so that at work (where “my pussy” is located) I can look through the programs that have come through this
echo, and select which ones to take home and which ones to trash.
Do you have any other questions on this topic? Then, I hope, we will no longer
play the “spectrumist patriot (you) and the pisyukov-baiter (me).”

[.....]
AG> I just don’t understand - why do you always give me as an example the opinions of
AG> some pisishniks about whom I have absolutely nothing to do?!
Mmmmmm... Lower your tone and speed, since neither I (nor all those I spoke about) are Pisyukites...
AG> To be honest, it’s deeply parallel to me - will they play D00M on Spec
AG> or Kwaku on pC - this is their personal business, meAbsolutely irrelevant!
Absolutely right. This doesn't concern you. So I’m saying the same thing - you
don’t give a damn how playable and competitive your Doom will be.

AG> I repeat
AG> again - give the opinions of those people _FOR_WHICH_ games are written on the
AG> Spectrum! Those. the opinions of _SPECTRUM_ users, not a pussy!
Then, I repeat once again - if you have a bunch of “emulator people” in your group
then don’t transfer this judgment to other groups.
And about the fact that the opportunity to work for IBM does not make a person
a “non-Spectrumist” you need to say ? Or will you see for yourself what kind of “patriotism” this smacks of?

???????????? You're so serious about this, right? Do you think that, one way or another, sooner or later everyone is trying to “fly under someone’s wing”? Even when they are simply stating obvious and well-known
things? Yes, this is a problem. Yours.

S> Nothing global has been changed in the second part, except that some things have been simplified.
If you haven’t forgotten, you and I already discussed this about a year ago.
As far as I remember, you agreed with me then - the concept was slightly
changed, and not just simplified... In particular, the source of profit has changed.

EM>> as a result of which the games turned out to be more “playable” than
EM>> even on PC.

S> Also wrong. The writing variants are more playable due to the _color_ graphics.
S> If the same graphics could be implemented on the Spectrum, the writing
S> variants would be worse.
:)))))))) Word game again? I'm not telling you about the graphics, but about the concept of the game. And the graphics... I first played it on the Spectrum, and then on the PC...
Even the color graphics did not raise the PC version in my eyes...

AL> No, Sereg. The first part cannot be compared with the first pisish, since
AL> is a different genre, and on Speccy for fans of the Cannon Foder genre this is the best
AL> option that could ever be. And since the majority of
AL> people love a dynamic strategy game, then imho Spectrum's UFO-1 is superior to
AL>'s pisish one in terms of playability.

Have you been playing the pisish one for a long time? Colorful, large graphics convey a sense of
reality, tension, and fear. It's impossible to tear yourself away. There is no need to talk about reality on the Spectrum... Again I say - it's all about the graphics. And
the arcade element is more attractive than the turn-based one.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

S>> Ë◊¡‘…‘ À Ûá◊≈ –œƒÃ…⁄Ÿ◊¡‘ÿ”—. H…fi≈«œ «Ãœ¬¡ÃÿŒœ«œ ◊œ ◊‘œ“œ  fi¡”‘… Œ≈
S>> …⁄Õ≈Œ≈Œœ, “¡⁄◊≈ fi‘œ ’–“œ›≈Œœ Àœ≈-fi‘œ.

VM> ı ‘≈¬— Œ¡ «Ã¡⁄¡» €œ“Ÿ, ¡ Â◊«≈Œ…  ◊ Àœ“≈Œÿ ⁄“…‘ &-!

·, Œ’ ƒ¡, ‘¡Õ œ¬ŸfiŒ¡— À¡“‘¡ ◊Õ≈”‘œ 3d-«Ãœ¬’”¡, ◊“œƒ≈... È 3-»Õ≈“ŒŸ  ¬œ  ”
HÏÔ (Œ¡ PC ¬ŸÃ 2d?!), Àœ‘œ“Ÿ  ‘Ÿ ”“¡⁄’ ÷≈ ”œœ¬›…Ã, À¡À œ‘Àÿfi¡‘ÿ... Ù¡À? È ¬¡⁄Ÿ,
–œ-Õœ≈Õ’, Œ≈Ãÿ⁄— ⁄¡”‘“¡…◊¡‘ÿ, ¡ ‘¡À÷≈ ’–“œ€≈Œ Õ≈Œ≈ƒ÷Õ≈Œ‘... ˛‘œ ÷≈ À¡”¡≈‘”—
”¡Õœ«œ ¬œ—, ‘œ ‘¡Õ ÀœŒ√≈–√…— –≈“≈Œ≈”≈Œ¡ ” ÚÛ –œÃŒœ”‘ÿ¿. ÈÃ… — fi‘œ ⁄¡¬ŸÃ?

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

PN>>> Ù.≈ ’–œ“ ¬’ƒ≈‘ ”ƒ≈ጠœ–—‘ÿ Œ¡ œ¬œÃœfiÀ’?

S>> H¡ ◊”≈. Hœ Œ≈ ◊ Œ’Ã≈◊œÕ, ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘¡√…œŒŒœÕ ŒœÕ≈“≈.

VY> · fi‘œ÷≈ œŒ ¬’ƒ≈‘ ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘“…“œ◊¡‘ÿ, ≈”Ã… ◊ Œ≈Õ Œ… Œ¡ fi‘œ Œ≈ ¬’ƒ≈‘
VY> ”ƒ≈ጜ ’–œ“¡, ‘¡À À¡À œŒ Œ’Ã≈◊œ ? :)

VY> Ù.≈. ◊Ÿ Œ≈ ”Õœ‘“…‘≈, fi‘œ ’ Œ¡” Œ’Ã≈◊œ -¬≈”–á‘ŒŸ  ƒ≈ÕœŒ”‘“¡√…œŒŒŸ 
VY> Œ≈ ’ƒ¡Ã”—, –œÀ’–¡ ‘≈ –≈“◊Ÿ  - ‘¡Õ ◊”≈ ¬’ƒ≈‘ À“’‘œ?

H≈. "H’ fi‘œ, –œŒ—Ã… À¡Àœ  ”¡À” ◊”≈ œ”‘¡ÃÿŒŸ≈ ÷’“Œ¡ÃŸ? · –œ ”“¡◊Œ≈Œ…¿ ” –≈“◊ŸÕ
ŒœÕ≈“œÕ Œ’Ã≈◊œ  Œ≈ ’ƒ¡Ã”—".

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

I’m not sucking up to Slava :) but I got the Spectrum version of UFO
before the pisish one, I played enough of it, and when the pisish one appeared, I only
tried it a little, about 15 minutes, and that’s it, I didn’t touch it again, despite
the color one graphics_. So about the playability EM is right IMHO.

Bye, Vladimir :)

... Well, if you are in Taganrog, come in!...

AG>> Do you understand the difference between “unknown release date” and
AG>> “frozen project”?
EM> I understand the difference between promises of release almost in August of one
EM> year, and the phrase “unknown when” at the end of April of another...

Don’t slow down. Nobody promised a magazine in August. You like to claim what you don't know. Just some kind of mania. You've definitely been making Oberon 4 for 100 years... Although
the concept "you" shouldn't include you: you didn't really do anything there except
writing a small, senile text and something else like processing a couple
of other people's articles. You didn’t write the interface, nor did you write the music and graphics. But everywhere
you appear as one of the main authors...

Thu Apr 23 1998 14:07, 500:812/06.00 wrote to Pavel Nikonov:
PN>> I'm sorry...) But as a game - it's worth a look.... although I liked CitadeL
PN>> demo better.

AL> No, Sereg. The first part cannot be compared with the first pisish, since
AL> is a different genre, and on Speccy for fans of the Cannon Foder genre this is the best
AL> option that could ever be. And since the largest number
AL> of people love a dynamic strategy, then imho Spectrum UFO-1

AG>>> is the opinion of the majority, and it says - “DOOM - rulezz!” So here it is
AG>>> like this!

I don’t know - no one shouted that...

EM> a) its virtual world is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooongyyyyys principle... (I mean, so that _it_
can also be played :)

EM> b) for a long time on the Spectrum there have been games made according to the principle “I see
EM> with my own eyes.” For example - DRAK SIDE, DRILLER, some other fantasy game, etc. Their virtual worlds are much better than this
EM> Pokotsano-Dumovsky one, in which the range of vision is limited to only
EM> 2-3 steps.

The whole point is that the development of _those_ games was carried out by people who, figuratively
speaking, ate the dog - they had designers, they had psychologists - i.e. the concept
was very carefully worked out both from the standpoint of ergonomics and from the standpoint of
rational thinking...

AG>> on people like you and others like you, who sit on their pussies and
AG>> lazily play croak, occasionally remembering Speccy and loading
AG>> the emulator to see what’s new there appeared!

Watch it in an emulator? - not a single normal oneI saw that it was worth
launching...

EM> Absolutely right. This doesn't concern you. So I’m saying the same thing -
EM> you absolutely don’t give a damn how playable your Doom will be and
EM> competitively capable.

Repeating myself - EXACTLY! With Specky, you can make good two-dimensional walkers, wire flyers, and shooters (occasionally filling them with texture). But to make
reettime, full view and color three-dimensional games - this is, in my opinion, nonsense.

EM>>> ◊ p≈⁄’Ãÿ‘¡‘≈ fi≈«œ …«pŸ –œÃ’fi…Ã…”ÿ ¬œÃ≈≈ "…«p¡¬≈ÃÿŒŸ", fi≈Õ
EM>>> ƒ¡÷≈ Œ¡ –√.

S>> Ùœ÷≈ Œ≈◊≈“Œœ. …”…€ŒŸ≈ ◊¡“…¡Œ‘Ÿ ¬œÃ≈≈ …«“¡¬≈ÃÿŒŸ ⁄¡”fi≈‘ _√◊≈‘Œœ _
S>> «“¡∆…À…. Ӂ ¬Ÿ Œ¡ ”–≈À‘“’Õ≈ Õœ÷Œœ ¬ŸÃœ “≈¡Ã…⁄œ◊¡‘ÿ ‘¡À’¿ ÷≈ «“¡∆…À’,
S>> –…”…€ŒŸ≈ ◊¡“…¡Œ‘Ÿ ¬ŸÃ… ¬Ÿ »’÷≈.

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VK> p¡Œÿ€≈ –…”…€Œœ«œ, — ◊ Œ≈«œ Œ¡…«p¡Ã”—, ¡ Àœ«ƒ¡ –œ—◊…Ô— –…”…€ŒŸ , ‘œ —
VK> ‘œÃÿÀœ –œ–pœ¬œ◊¡Ã Œ≈ÕŒœ÷Àœ, Õ…Œ’‘ 15, … ◊”£, ¬œÃÿ€≈ — À Œ≈Õ’ Œ≈
VK> –p…À¡”¡Ã”—, Œ≈”Õœ‘p— Œ¡ _√◊≈‘Œ’¿ «p¡∆…À’_. Ù¡À fi‘œ Œ¡”fi£‘ …«p¡¬≈ÃÿŒœ”‘… EM
VK> –p¡◊ ÈÌËÔ.

˛‘œ ‘¡Àœ≈ 15 Õ…Œ’‘ ƒÃ— …«“Ÿ, Àœ‘œ“’¿ Œ¡ƒœ –“œ»œƒ…‘ÿ Œ≈ƒ≈ÿ? H≈◊œ⁄Õœ÷Œœ Œ≈
‘œÃÿÀœ “¡⁄œ¬“¡‘ÿ”—, Œœ … –œÃ’fi…‘ÿ ’ƒœ◊œÃÿ”‘◊…≈.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

AI> Well, you bring it here, we’ll all see how it
AI> really is.
That’s it, ^^^
that the subject only exists in the source code :(
And even with broken sprites. But I don’t want to go there yet.

With the best, Denis.

S> Have you been playing pissing for a long time? Colorful, large graphics convey the feeling of

I went through the Amiga. They are not particularly different.

S> reality, tension, fear. It's impossible to tear yourself away. There's no need to talk about reality

Sereg, well, it's a different genre.

S> on the Spectrum... Again I say - it's all about the
S> graphics. And the arcade element is more attractive than the turn-based one.

Yes, they cannot be compared. PC stepper, Spectrum dynamic. Due to
the absence of other games of a similar genre on Speccy, the weight of UFO-1 for Spectrum players is much greater than UFO-1 for PC players.

S> Have you been playing pissing for a long time?
I don’t know about him, but I completely completed both.
S> Colorful, large graphics convey a sense of reality, tension,
S>fear. It's impossible to tear yourself away.
And the monotony after 10-15 missions conveys a feeling of drowsiness,
Christian humility, etc. It's really impossible to tear yourself away. From a cup of
coffee - so as not to fall asleep completely.

S> There is no need to talk about reality on the Spectrum... Again I say -
S> it's all about the graphics. And the arcade element is more attractive than the turn-based one.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that we were talking about playability.

S> Don't slow down. Nobody promised a magazine in August.
As ? It seems we were talking about games...
S> You like to claim what you don’t know. Just some kind of mania. Here you
S> have definitely been doing Oberon 4 for 100 years...
But, note, we never promised any specific period.
S> Although the concept “you” should not include you: you didn’t really do anything there
S>, except for writing a small senile text and
S> something like processing a couple of other, other people’s articles. It wasn't you who wrote the interface, nor did you write the music and graphics.
And did I ever dispute that I wasn't the coder/musician/
artist? No. Why are you telling me all this then? Just to flame?
If you think that I practically did not take part in the creation of
OBERON-4, then why the hell are you bringing it to me as a counterbalance to my words about
DR? Again, why would you flame?
Or do you think that since you are “elite”, you know everything? Then, I’ll explain
so that next time you don’t so slurply fall into the bolt of your own
ignorance - the 4th OBERON was conceived as a “special issue” dedicated to the network.
Since up to a certain point I was working on this (the network)... In the summer I myself
reached the diagram for connecting C-DOS to Scorpio... I wrote an article on this
reason... I figured out all the connection nuanceshayes' according to Kondratiev's scheme... I wrote an article. I wrote a few more articles about
the network, but since it became clear that there was not enough material for the “special issue”, then
only some of my articles were left... By the way, what kind of
“processing of a couple of other, other people’s articles” are you talking about?

S> But everywhere you appear as one of the main authors...
:)))) But everything is much worse than it looks at first glance... You didn’t just “sit in a puddle”, you were already plunged almost to the top of your head into it. :)
Remember - I DO NOT introduce myself ANYWHERE as the _main_ author. As a founder - yes.
As an author - yes. As a “chief author” (and even more so as a “chief editor”, as
you once thought of me) - no.

DD> PS: by the way, I have a citadel lying around here, which is also
DD> colorful on
DD> two-thirds of the screen... Stalker tried when he saw the pre-release
DD> by DR
DD>. Well, a little slower. But, duh!!! ;))))
AI> Well, bring her here, we'll all see how good it really is
AI>.

AI> Well, then you bring it here, we’ll all see how it really is.

I don’t know about everyone, but... REALLY NOBODY HAS A ZX EMULATOR?!

╩═ See you soon, Andrey! Andryukha AKA Sly ═╩

[Team "MetallicA"] [Team HEAVY METAL - RULEZ!] [Team Girls and beer!]

...Guess in which ear I have a buzzing?

AH>> understand that most software on spec is made not by companies, but by the most
AH>> ordinary types.
EM> So. It looks like you don’t know either... I won’t retell everything
EM> (although, if you want, I’ll forward you my letters). In a word, the way
EM> Artie presents to us his degree of participation in the work of DR gives reason
EM> to believe that he almost organized a company there.
So what? I will now say that I organized the MacroSoft company and by the end of 1998
I will release TR-Windows 98. If this is so, then I will really release my product,
if not, then I will not release it. Of course, I can delay the deadline due to various problems, but no one will suffer from this except myself (in the financial sense). Because
no one financed my activities, therefore no one
can demand anything from me. But no, no trial.
In any case, DR must be thanked very much for the fact that they are at least trying to do something
for spec and even if they don’t meet the deadline, but if their
projects do come out, it will bring more benefit than empty attacks against them.

EM> "... to mention only what, in my opinion, I can do well:
EM> this is
EM> leading and understanding people, doing business and finding new
EM> and progressive things that others don’t see... “
EM> I think that’s enough?All that remains is to add that this has been said
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Again, you’re on your own. If you react like this every time when someone says something, then you won’t last long :(

EM> was in a very didactic context as recently as October 97
EM> (i.e. quite recently)... The reason for this conversation was Artie’s phrase
EM> - “you haven’t done anything at all, except for the leftmost one (in terms of coding and
EM> content of the Oberon magazine), as well as some crooked releases."

VY> And what will it demonstrate if there is no emphasis placed on anything
VY>, since it is zero? :)

You'll see...

VY> That is. Don’t you see that our zero-free demo
VY> was not a success, buy the first one - everything will be cool there?

Like? Maybe it will still be a freeware - haven’t discussed it yet...

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

PN> Here I thought and thought....What exactly are you going to demonstrate in
PN> zero, demo number? Although it’s probably easier to wait,
PN> please watch...

Release of the magazine itself, collection of vote-lists, bug-fixing =)

And there will also be articles, though not many...

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · · · · Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

EM> was
EM> in a very didactic context as recently as October 1997 (i.e. quite
EM> recently)... The reason for this conversation was Arti’s phrase - “you haven’t done anything at all
EM> except the leftmost (in coding and the contents of the magazine
EM> OBERON), as well as some kind of crooked releases."

I still have my opinion...

AH>> A
AH>> this means that this is more likely a hobby than a business. And especially since you
AH>> personally lost because someone delayed the release of their project by nnn
AH>> amount of time??? Of course, over time you lose interest in them, but still
AH>> you shouldn’t get so annoyed about this.

EM> Me personally? Only one thing - I don’t like it when people start talking nonsense in front of me,
EM> and then it turns out... a “hobby”. Otherwise, everything is fine...

Did they take any money from you? Go...

EM> And I think that this is just an _attempt_ to do “1 in 1”.

An attempt at 3Mhz and 128Kb to do something that works 30 times faster on a machine!

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·

AR> The whole point is that the development of _those_ games was carried out by people who ate,
AR> figuratively speaking, a dog - they had designers, they had psychologists -
AR> i.e. the concept was very carefully worked out both from the position of
AR ergonomics and from the position of rational thinking...

Bbababahhhahahhabbaha!

Let it be known to you - at that time, game development was carried out by teams
consisting of young people aged 20-22, there were no psychologists to speak of, the gaming
industry was just beginning!
It’s funny to say such things...

You still say that in the early days of the automobile industry there were a lot of designers and
psychologists who monitored the appearance of the car and its convenience, as well as ecologists and
economists... It happened as it happened - then competition and progress began!

AG>> your stump (or whatever it is you have) and look around! And you will see
AG>> A LOT of people who, fortunately, do not have a PC at home, but have a Speccy and FOR
AG>> THEM precisely _SPEC- TRUMOVSKY_ D00M - rulez!

EM> And now _you_ come down from the heights of... mmmmm... something (:))), and
EM> you will see, that: 1) I am a “realist” and write my programs primarily for them. (In particular, programs for accessing Fido from the spectrum)

What programs? Who needs your srach? Programs should be written by professionals, for example
for communication software - E-mage - EMS r00lz!

EM> :)) The fact that I have a tree stump at work, and I go from it to Fido, should not
EM> confuse you... 2) There is a saying “without fish there is cancer -
EM> fish”. This is all I mean, if you had given this program another name, and not DOOM, IMHO, its popularity would have been much less. So
EM> how: a) its virtual world is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove
EM> what can we call “DOOM”(in the sense of a certain game genre)

What kind of “virtualworld”? There is lameness in every word! Everything looks so much like a sandbox - the one on the right with the mold is Milun..."I see with my
EM> eyes." For example - DRAK SIDE, DRILLER, some other fantasy game, etc. Their virtual worlds are much better than this Pokotsano-Dumovsky one, in which the range of vision is limited to only 2-3 steps. 3) This
EM> opinion is not mine personally, it is shared by a lot of people.

A bunch of Miluns? Mister schizophrenic?

Work on Doom was carried out at magical fps! And also the opportunity to implement the
maximum possible 3d action on speccy, and it worked out...

I have about 150 letters from all over the country, and also calls, personal meetings, emails.

EM> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that we were talking about
EM> playability.

Of course. What the hell is playability without graphics? Do you play wire Star Wars
on the Spectrum with the same interest as you play all sorts of pussy Ties?
Imagine Starcraft in Spectrum graphics... Even if everything else is at the
level, it will be creepy...

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

Sp> No. “Well, have you realized how bad all the other magazines are? And compared to
Sp> the first issue, the zero one was not a success.”
:))))
Serega, don’t stir up too much excitement, even though IMHO it turned out quite well, but
only after such words the people may begin to wait for who knows what! :)))

With best wishes, Flying/DR

... -= Digital Reality =-
~~~ Blue Wave v2.12

PN> pls look... <- With Best ReGardZ forR U & oNlY...!
Actually there will be only what is necessary for _demonstration_ of the future
magazine! Those. the entire interface (what it looks like, how it works), several articles
mostly of an informational nature, a small application. In addition, the
reason for releasing the 0th issue of the magazine is the desire to test the work
on different machines and, if possible, take into account all the flaws when releasing a commercial
version.
So wait! Not long left!

AH> Only you, and Igor Gruzdev... Everyone!

These were (and I will say for myself that now too) only the most zealous opponents
intp. :) And categorically say 'that's it!' I wouldn't. In any case, on
the question
about what to do with the boring intro, I received about five letters with advice
to use STS and throw it away. ;) So it’s not just him and me.
However
this should not be taken as me defending anyone. I'm just stating a fact. And in general, I don’t even care about everything Spectrum has to offer. Almost don't care. You can
assume that I left and will not return. Time passes, we change, our interests also change. I, perhaps, have found something for myself that
replaces
what the spectrum gave me. Found it on pussy. And it’s unlikely that I’ll be leaving in the near future...

Yes, by the way, you can consider the position of facu-maker vacant.

With all kinds of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... I am for an equal dialogue. An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth.

IG> These were (and I will say for myself that now too) only the most zealous
IG> opponents of the intr. :) And categorically say 'that's it!' I wouldn’t.
And that’s right ;)
IG> In any case, when asked about what to do with the boring intro, I
IG> received about five letters with advice to use STS and throw it out
IG> what the heck. ;) So it's not just him and me. However, this should not be taken for
IG> that I am defending someone. I'm just stating a fact. And in general,
IG> I don’t even care about everything Spectrum. Almost don't care. You can assume,
Well, in vain! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IG> that I left and will not return. Time passes, we change,
Everything changes,..... and every place is vacant :) (Fresh forces :)
IG> our interests also change. I, perhaps, have found something for myself that
IG> which replaces for me what the spectrum gave me. Found it on pussy. And
It’s a pity, of course, perhaps you have grown into a programmer for the enta platform
it’s all about the volume of the program itself, for Fido the ZX format is just right _IMHO_
IG> I’m unlikely to part with it in the near future...
Let’s hope, by the way, about the demos, if you don’t mind, you can use soap ;)
IG> Yes, by the way, the position of facu-maker can be considered vacant.

IG> With all kinds of regards and wishes.
IG>Igor.

IG> ... I am for equal dialogue. An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth.
IG> dra...@actor.ru
Peace be with you Igor!

AH> ˜ ÿ¬œÕ ”Ã’fi¡≈ DR Œ¡ƒœ ”À¡⁄¡‘ÿ ¬œÃÿ€œ≈ ”–¡”…¬œ ⁄¡ ‘œ, fi‘œ œŒ… »œ‘ÿ
AH> fi‘œ-‘œ ”‘¡“¡¿‘ÿ”— ”ƒ≈á‘ÿ ƒÃ— ”–≈À¡ … –’”‘ÿ œŒ… Œ≈ ’Àჟ◊¡¿‘ÿ”— ◊
AH> ”“œÀ, Œœ ≈”Ã… …» –“œ≈À‘Ÿ ◊”≈-‘¡À… ◊Ÿ ƒ’‘, ‘œ ‹‘œ –“…Œ≈”≈‘ ¬œÃÿ€’¿
AH> –œÃÿ⁄’, fi≈Õ –’”‘Ÿ≈ Œ¡–¡ƒÀ… ◊ …» ”‘œ“œŒ’.

Δ‘¡‘…, œ –‘…fiÀ¡»: ¡ À‘œ "’Àჟ◊¡≈‘”— ◊ ”“œÀ"? ΡÀ-‘œ Œ¡ ’Õ Œ≈ –“…»œƒ…‘. H…
œƒ…Œ ÷’“Œ¡Ã, Œ… œƒŒ¡ –“…Ã…fiŒ¡— …«“¡ - Œ…fi‘œ Œ≈ ◊Ÿ€Ãœ, –œ÷¡Ã’ , ◊œ◊“≈Õ—. È⁄
Õ¡÷œ“Œœ«œ.

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

EM>> H≈‘. È‘œ« - 1 –pœ≈À‘ Õ≈p‘◊, 2 –…€’‘”— œfi≈Œÿ … œfi≈Œÿ Õ≈ƒÃ≈ŒŒœ, +
EM>> ≈›≈ Œ≈”ÀœÃÿÀœ "Œ¡fi¡‘¡ p¡¬œ‘¡". :)

AH> Ù≈¬≈-‘œ À¡À¡— –œ∆…« “¡⁄Œ…√¡?

Û≈ fi¡” ”À¡÷≈‘ ":) ÌŒ≈-‘œ Œ…À¡Àœ , ¡ ◊œ‘ ⁄¡ ÷ƒ’›…» …» ”–≈À‘“’Õ…”‘œ◊ œ¬…ƒŒœ!!!"

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

Are you on your own again? Well, how many times can I repeat it - it doesn’t hold up because this is a Spectrum and not a PC and its capabilities are more modest => and “virtuality” suffers!
What, would you like an exact copy of DOOM on Spec? For what? Well, it would work with 500
interruptions, but what's the point?
Yes, let me also note: DOOM is a _game_ and not a genre! :) And its genre is
3D shooter, like our DOOM (adjusted for the Spectrum, of course)

EM> b) for a long time on the Spectrum there have been games made on the principle of “I see
EM> with my own eyes.” For example - DRAK SIDE, DRILLER, some other fantasy game, etc. Their virtual worlds are much better than
EM> this Pokotsano-Dumovsky one, in which the range of vision
EM> is limited to only 2-3 steps.
Yeah, just don’t forget that the genre of these games is usually Adventure and
accordingly, speed is not critical for them => and the engine is there more powerful. But DOOM
is not Adventure :) So there is no need to compare them!

EM> 3) This opinion is not mine personally
EM>, it is shared by a lot of people.
Just like mine!

AG> And not at all a pisish one, which they don’t care about due to
AG> its inaccessibility! And we focus on THESE people, and not on
AG> like you and people like you, who sit on their pussies and lazily play
AG> croaking occasionallyremembering Speccy and loading the emulator to see
AG> what's new there!
EM>
EM> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
EM> )) Who told you this about me? Artie? Novikov? Or did you come up with the idea yourself? Then I’ll explain - I write _ALL_ my programs at home, on
EM> SCORPION, and on it I work with all the programs. I use emulators
EM> only so that at work (where “my pussy” is located)
EM> I can look through the programs that have come through this echo, and select which ones to take
EM> home and which ones to trash. Do you have any other questions on this topic? Then,
EM> I hope we will no longer play “patriot-spectrumist (you) and
EM> scolding pisyukovist (me).”
EM> [.....]
Calm down, let's not...

AG> I just don't understand - why are you always giving me as an example the opinions of
AG> some pisishniks about whom I have absolutely nothing to do with?!
EM> Mmmmmm... Lower your tone and momentum, since neither I (nor all those about whom I
EM> said) are not Pisyukovites...
Well, great! But it’s all the same - they don’t want to play Spectrum DOOM - let them not play, that’s their business, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t people who will play it! There are such people and we write DOOM _for_them_!!!

AG> To be honest,It’s deeply in parallel to me - will they play D00M on Spec
AG> or Kwaku on PC - this is their personal business, which has absolutely nothing to do with me!

EM> and progressive, which others do not see... "
Are these his own words? So, I have known Arty for 5 years already, the three of us: Arty,
Oz and I were the people who became the heart of then "Masters of Memory",
and then Digital Reality. And after so many years I can say that in his
words he he’s 100% right - this is exactly what he can do _well_!!! I don’t want to praise him here, like every person he has his own shortcomings,
but I can say one thing for sure: it’s thanks to Arty that there is such a team as Digital Reality on the Spectrum
stage now! The abilities of the
organizer hold our team together! Believe me, this is not a song of praise, this is
a statement of facts!

EM>> Since the Spectrum Doom cannot be an exact copy of the PC, then
EM>> the authors should not follow the path of “copying one to one”

AR>> who, figuratively speaking, ate the dog - they had designers, they
AR>> had psychologists - i.e. the concept was very carefully worked out
AR>> both from the position of ergonomics and from the position of rational thinking...

AH> Bbababahhhahahhabbaha!

Oh, what's wrong with you, your finger is stuck in the keyboard? :->

AH> Let it be known to you - at that time, game development was carried out
AH> by teams consisting of young people aged 20-22, there were no psychologists and
AH> remember, the gaming industry was just beginning! It's funny to say things like that...

Well, yes... From the 80s to the 90s, the same guys aged 20-22 worked,
they even did management themselves - selling floppy disks at a flea market... :->>>

Well, the average age of DyR is even younger, i.e. It doesn’t even reach 20-22... And
they, young talents, decide to make a Revolution! (in the automotive industry :>>)

AH> You also say that in the early stages of the automotive industry there were a lot of
AH> designers and psychologists looking after the appearance of the car and convenience, as well as
AH> ecologists and economists... It happened as it happened - then came
AH> competition and progress!

AH> Try the X128, or do you have 286?

What are you... MUCH BETTER - 386SX-20... :-> :)

Is our emulator, Soviet, or imported? (Somewhere with a similar name there was such a thing lying around - there weretwo, one with image synchronization, the brains floated
(ours),
the other was imported and it was not clear whether it was possible to work with disks at all,
although in the annotation this question was answered positively - there was simply no time
to
deal with them)

AH> And despite the fact that you constantly point out to everyone - I’m so smart, I graduated
AH> from university, listened to lectures, received a diploma, and all of you kids here don’t
AH> understand anything. And everyone is already very fed up with this!
Who everyone? Yes, I point out that Artie often exaggerates himself...
So what? Or maybe I’ve been feeding everyone here for a year and a half with all sorts of promises that “wait, this program will be cooler than anything you’ve ever seen”? Maybe it’s me here who is boasting “I know how to organize work,
I know what and how to do, etc.”? Maybe it’s me who proclaims myself “the elite of the scene”? Or maybe someone else is doing all this, and not me?

AH> In short, there is no point in pointing
AH> to a person what he does not/will not have yet. To plan the work
AH> within a group, it is completely unnecessary to know the Network Diagram.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah, and to write a program, you don’t need to know programming. So?
Sorry, but in this question you approach this like... like I don’t know who...

AH> It’s the same as
AH> understanding internal combustion engines (internal combustion engines) is within the framework of
AH> Superchargers and TD, you can do it without knowledge of this discipline.
You can understand it, but go to a car service center and start _ALL_ teach that they know nothing and that you are alonedo you understand internal combustion engines?

If you still don’t understand what I mean, then let’s stop this conversation?

Tuesday April 28 1998 09:57, Artem Haritonov ─── Evgeny Milun:

AH> I wrote to you, why didn’t you quote further?
What, should I quote everything here? Aren't you afraid? You said a lot of things there... :)

AH> The art of managing and coordinating a team that is not bound by MONEY
AH> relationships!!! This is psychology, not sober calculation!
:)))))) So, it means organizing work to make a profit is
a cold calculation, but “just like that” is psychology?
Well, then again, we are doing much better with this. SOK has been a non-profit group for almost two and a half years now... And to this day not only have they not broken up, but vice versa... And what kind of programs we make, let our users decide, and not some “sceners”...

AH> You are doing unnecessary things that can be done better, because... you
AH> are completely missing a very important detail - design.
:)))))) Design and programming are different things. Don't you find it? If you don't find it, then I have no more questions. And if you find it, then I expect at least an apology.

AH> People who do not have a pussy will be able to appreciate the cool action, you, corrupted
AH> with a pussy, cannot do this - because above you are trying to compare the incomparable,
AH> then start a flame pECE'T cooler than Speccy - it is equivalent - they are both -
AH> personal computers... => the argument “I compare doom with doom” is not
AH> accepted!
:)))))) Apparently you now think that you said a very smart thing? You're
wrong...

AH> What programs? Who needs your srach? Programs should be written by professionals,
AH> for example, for communication software - E-mage - EMS r00lz!
Folks, who knows that a version of EMS for hayes has already been created? Or is it still designed only for the Alegro modem? Or did they implement
ftn mailer in EMS?

2 Denis Dmitriev: It looks like we have professional competitors. ;))

AG> :))))
AG> Seryoga, don’t make too much of a fuss, even though IMHO it turned out well,
AG> it’s just that after such words the people may begin to wait for no one knows
AG> what! :)))
The excitement has been building since mid-autumn. So, you are late with your words. :)))

AE> I don’t know about everyone, but... DOESN’T ANYONE HAVE AN EMULATOR
AE> ZX?!

Blah. I have a lot. But why not climb on ftp.nvg.unit.no and do not drain from there
instead in order to pester everyone in the echo?

Best regards, Captain/56.

28 Apr 98 17:09, Spirit wrote to Evgeny Milun:

S> Of course. What the hell is playability without graphics? Do you play
S> wire Star Wars on the Spectrum with the same interest
S> as you do with all sorts of pussy Ties?

Show me a toy on IBM that would be played by as many people and for as long as
Elite on the Spectrum.
Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

29 Apr 98 19:02, Spirit communicated Andy Harchenko about {DR projects releaseazE daTe}:

AH>> In any case, DR must say a big thank you for the fact that they are at least
AH>> trying to do something for the spec and let them not meet the
AH>> deadline,

S> By the way, about birds: who “meets the deadline”? Somehow it doesn’t come to mind.

So, the term is always calculated according to the well-known formula “multiply by two” :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

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Once I was in a museum and there, on an old, old stone, an ancient man carved that
Thursday April 30, 1998 right at 14:41, Evgeny Milun wrote to Andy Harchenko:

AH>> no one can do anything to me. But no, there is no trial.
EM> You don’t understand me again. + properly design your products, on
EM> for example your Windows, etc. In a word - if you pretend that you are the center of the earth, and that everyone except you doesn’t know how to do anything... Now do you feel the difference :)
Okay, I’ll try it differently: even if I do. I do this, then a normal person
shouldn’t worry about this and usually if, as they say, you’ve just lost your mind, then
they don’t pay much attention to you. Especially people who know how to do something and are doing it. In short, you just need to pay less attention to what
someone said and shouted. I’ll keep my promise, then please, specific
comments on a specific issue.

AH>> In any case
AH>> DR I must say thank you very much forthe fact that they are at least trying to do something
AH>> for the spec and even if they don’t meet the deadline,
AH>> but if their projects do come out, then this will bring greater
AH>> benefit than empty attacks in their direction.
EM> Ehhh... It’s not about “great benefit” or not, but about whether
EM> “they will come out” "
Let Artie take care of it.

EM> [.....]

AH>> graduated from university, attended lectures, received a diploma, and here you are all
AH>> kids who don’t understand anything. And everyone is already very fed up with this!
EM> Who everyone? Yes, I point out that Artie often exaggerates
EM> himself... So what? Or maybe I’ve been feeding everyone here for a year and a half
EM> with all sorts of promises that “wait, this program will be cooler
EM> than anything you’ve ever seen”? Maybe I’m here boasting “I
EM> know how to organize work, I know what and how to do, etc.”? Maybe this is
EM> me proclaiming myself “the elite of the scene”? Or maybe someone else is doing all this, and not me?
So what? Let him continue to feed you, what will be lost from you or what? Notice that you are practically the only one pointing out that someone hasn't released something, someone is doing something wrong. It gets enough, you know...

S> comes. Not a single magazine, not a single decent game - nothing came out, perhaps, on time. From a major key.
Well, you know, if you rely on a principle like: “Oh, okay, no one does anything on
time anyway, we won’t strain either...”, I have a feeling
there won’t be anyone left on the Spectrum.

S> Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

IG> opponents int. :) And categorically say 'that's it!' I wouldn't. In any case
IG> in response to the question of what to do with the boring intro, I received about
IG> five letters with advice to use STS and throw it away. ;) So
IG> it’s not just him and me.
IG> However, this should not be taken to mean that I’m defending
IG> anyone. I'm just stating a fact. And in general, I already don’t care about
IG> everything Spectrum. Almost don't care. We can assume that I left and will not return
IG>. Time passes, we change, our interests also change. I
IG> for myself, perhaps, found the thing that replaces for me what the Spectrum gave
IG>. Found it on pussy. And I’m unlikely to break up any time soon...

I would like to brag - what is it?

AR> What are you... MUCH BETTER - 386SX-20... :-> :)

Ay, ah. Where did you get this? Did you sell Vasek at the market? There were no such prots... I would say SX-16 or SX-33...

AR> Is our emulator, Soviet, or imported? (Somewhere with a similar name
AR> there was such a thing lying around - there were two of them, one with image synchronization brains
AR> hovered (ours), the other was imported and it was not clear whether it was possible to work with
AR> disks at all, although in the annotation this question was answered positively -
AR> there was simply no time to deal with them)

It would be better if I found the time to at least figure something out, and not flame here...

^^^^^^
Are you the author of Melon?

> Good luck! Evgeny.

I was with you
Ars^FTL

* nothing can save this world...

Greetings, Dmitry Meniaylov, I wish you a pleasant reading...

Dmitry Meniaylov dated 30-Apr-98 at approximately 19:23:54 Andrey
Emelianov wrote on the topic: Re: DR projects release daTe And that

DM> Blah. I have a lot. But why not climb on ftp.nvg.unit.no and do not
DM> merge from there instead of bothering everyone in the echo Yours sincerely,
Isn’t it on www anywhere? To pull via HTTP? Otherwise, everything is closed with firewall
.
And my coolest e-mail was sent to me... The address is below...

-=>Dear and beloved by you all<=- _*Mihail*_ _*Eglit*_ aka _*Hamlet*_

[Team *MetallicA*] [Team _ORACLE_] [Team /*Brothers*/ /*Strugatsky*/]

e-mail: stu...@saules.com

Once upon a time, specifically Thursday April 30, 1998 at 11:00 Vladimir Yudin
wrote Spirit:

S>> Of course. What the hell is playability without graphics? Do you play wire
S>> Star Wars on the Spectrum with the same interest as you play pisish
S>> Tie' and all sorts of things?
VY> Show me a toy on IBM that would be played by as many people

Digger.

VY> and for as long as in Elite on the Spectrum.

Tu... when was that...
And on calculators programmed in "Battleship" was playing. And where are they now?
In the same place as Elite.

With respect, Tim. tyu...@usa.net [team Aries are Rulez Forever]

AR>> That's it, they talk about patriotism, about Specky Forever, and they themselves rip off
AR>> IBM's ideas - it doesn't matter whether they are good or bad and whether it is rational
AR>> to do it at all. I'm not saying that this shouldn't be done - but
AR>> think about whether it's worth it...
AH> They're not ripping off, but trying to implement a super hit on their platform -
AH> this has its own sex!
AR> Repeating - you MUST proceed from real needs...
AR> I'm not saying that your DUM is a complete ^%$^%$ - indeed, yes

S>> ÎœŒ≈fiŒœ. · À¡À¡— À fi≈“‘’ …«“¡¬≈ÃÿŒœ”‘ÿ ¬≈⁄ «“¡∆…À…? ÙŸ ◊
S>> –“œ◊œÃœfiŒŸ≈ Star Wars Œ¡ Û–≈À‘“’Õ≈ ” ‘¡À…Õ ÷≈ …Œ‘≈“≈”œÕ …«“¡≈€ÿ,
S>> À¡À ◊ –…”…€ŒŸ≈ Tie'… ◊”—À…≈?

VY> œÀ¡÷… ÕŒ≈ Œ¡ IBM …«“’€À’, ◊ Àœ‘œ“’¿ …«“¡Ã… ¬Ÿ ”‘œÃÿÀœ Œ¡“œƒ’ … ‘¡À ƒœÃ«œ,
VY> À¡À ◊ Elite Œ¡ ”–≈À‘“’Õ≈.

Doom 2 ;) œ À“¡ Œ≈  Õ≈“≈ –œ fi…”Ã’ Œ¡“œƒ¡, …«“¡◊€≈«œ ◊ Œ≈«œ Œ≈ œƒ…Œ «œƒ, œŒ
¸Ã…‘’ "ƒ≈á≈‘" “¡⁄ ◊ 100 ;)

Spirit^DR [s-no...@usa.net]

Hello, Ed!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Ed Aleksandrov to
Igor Gruzdev Wed Apr 29 1998 at 22:37...

IG>> that I’m defending someone. I'm just stating a fact. And in general,
IG>> I don’t even care about everything Spectrum. Almost don't care. You can assume,
EA> Well, in vain! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

'Almost don't care'. :)

IG>> our interests also change. I, perhaps, have found something for myself that
IG>> which replaces for me what the spectrum gave me. Found it on pussy. And
EA> It’s a pity, of course, perhaps you will become a programmer on the Entu
EA> platform, it’s all about the volume of the program itself, for Fido ZX the format is just right
EA> _IMHO_

I’m not a programmer.

IG>> unlikely in the near future I'll part ways...
EA> Let's hope, by the way, about the demos, if you don't mind, you can do it with soap ;)

What kind of demos?

Hello, Artem!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Artem Kharitonov to
Igor Gruzdev Mon May 04, 1998 at 06:52...

IG>> are changing. I, perhaps, have found something for myself that replaces for me what
IG>> the spectrum gave me. Found it on pussy. And it’s unlikely that I’ll separate in the near future
IG>>...
AH> I’d like to brag - what is it?

VGA Planets. More precisely - look into the echo vga.planets

Hello, Spirit!

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Spirit to Vladimir
Yudin Tue May 05, 1998 at 12:59...

VY>> Show me a toy on IBM that would be played by so many people and for so long
VY>> for a long time, like in Elite on the Spectrum.
S> Doom 2 ;) At least Doom 2 ;) At least by the number of people who have been playing it for more than one year,
S> he “makes” the Elite once every 100 ;)

And if you count it as a percentage (the number of users on a given
computer who were addicted to this game)/(total number of users)?

AG> Well, let’s say there’s no floppy disk with a cool guy yet, but there’s already a crowd!
AG> Honestly! I personally communicated for several months with very many
AG> spectrists - a lot of people are waiting for DOOM, believe me!

It is unlikely that their expectation will be justified. No, it’s possible that the doom will come out complete - it’s possible, but the playability of it... Unless you show it to some writer/amizhnik and proudly say - I also have doom. :) And there’s probably
nothing else for it.

EM> :)))))) So, it means that organizing work to make a profit is
EM> a cold calculation, but “just like that” is psychology?
No, it’s just that different teams have different tasks! And any
team needs organization, otherwise it’s a crowd!

EM> Well, then again, we’re doing much better with this. SOK
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (1)

EM> has been a non-profit
EM> group for almost two and a half years...
Digital Reality also ~2.5 years (since 08/10/95) And our group too non-commercial!

EM> And still not only have they not broken up, but vice versa...
And us? (c) Gentlemen of Fortune
So how can we understand your statement (1)?

EM> And what programs we make, let our users decide, and not
EM> some “sceners”...
Let those for whom these programs are written decide, but whether they are representatives of the scene is not important in this case. And then: “Or do I not have the right to my own opinion?” (c) Yours!

EM> People, who knows that an EMS version has already been created for
EM> hayes? Or is it still designed only for the EM> Alegro modem?
Or have they implemented
EM> ftn-mailer in EMS?
EM>
EM> 2 Denis Dmitriev: It looks like we have
EM> professional competitors. ;))

Wow, that’s great! Competitors are good.
But they are pros only in _those_ modems. Hayes has a couple of orders of magnitude more
opportunities, and the requirements for the subject are much
higher, otherwise there is no point. Unfortunately, we don't have a professional on ZX yet, and all that remains is to study, study and... oh!
the holiday is just around the corner! I'm off... ;)

With the best, Denis.

AH> Many not only move their pussy, but also think with their heads so that later on
AH> they don’t have to run around for strokes...

Well done! :-\ Who is hurting... I understand that you, of course, got into trouble once - but
but next time you will be more careful... :->

PS: Don't take it all so personally... Well, if I didn't like the subject, what can I
do... You all have brains - move on, develop - on
Spectrum time has not stopped... WORK - the fact is that you know how to do it to do, no one doubts. Good Luck!

ZYY: Let's stop with this unproductive flame.

C ya!
Alexander Romanenko