Nonsense, but cool :)

[Nemo holds a teleconference]
spbzxnet.(Nemo) <- this is the logo :)

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From : Timofey Lapo 2:5030/529.13 26 Sep 97 20:30:00
Subj : Naytilys goes to sea
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Reprinting of the following (including in other networks)
is permitted only with the spbzxnet logo. (Nemo)

Some questions that Nemo answered on Sigma BBS.
The text has been edited where possible (preserving
the author's ;) style).
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1. Why does "DpZxe" suck???2. Is it worse than lilyb syn
klerisov like this? The point is that kpai s
klepistovopanyyu sm pos, arim "Lgros "Av
tvo", etc.
3. Will there be l in KAY when the nizhbd is released
ets nvk??
( The thing is, no It’s strange, about the crap
p75-60% of Sita KAY networks, and they are being robbed
by the responsibility of the shadow business (((
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For a long time we have been doing this deciphered...

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(c) Nemo
1. The thesis about the suck was thrown out to attract
your attention. I believe that you should
defend your network.
Output in spbzxnet, and not in fido - what do you think this means? Spectrumists
from Fido to PC should know where their ears grow from.
But in general, I think all networks suck,
because there are no mechanisms for sublimation
of information - with the same success I can talk
personally by phone. Mechanisms
are needed to pump high-quality information into the network.
2. A club implies a very specific place with amenities, a cafe, installed computers and authoritative people.
3. in short: shadow in RAM,
best free-form program, independent
development company
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Timofey: yes, it’s time, it’s time, Captain, shadow
to pull out. ;)

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(c) Lapo: Nemo - this is an inexhaustible topic! g)

ny about ^^^^^^^^ (kai, prin. gmh) I can’t say anything because I haven’t dealt with this

but something can be said, no one has yet
canceled physics. what are you going to see at
gmx? The TV has 312 lines, 16 KHz
sweep, 8 MHz video signal bandwidth, the grain of the color (
(tv!) monitor mask is determined and the brightness is limited.

yes, this is interesting, but!
y I have a couple of questions:

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y question to Comrade Nemo: why is the speed
of the Pentagon not the same as on the scorpion, what is
wrong with the cleanliness?

(c) Nemo
The Pentagon is poorly tapped Spectrum-clone.
In the proprietary spec, wait is involved (short
e too). Therefore, the difference in productivity is 5%

yes, andfor these damned 5% I can't afford to watch most of the demos :(

(c) Lapo
I can throw you a couple of discs ( ;) ) with Polish demos - they go anywhere .

ok, like a thread later. but all of us are hunting,
St. Petersburg demos to marry, although this is a question....,
so I specifically got myself a Pentagon just for this purpose. ;)

Pentagon has real-time execution of programs (without time jitter as in scorp
and kay/normal: in kay/turbo time does not jitter).
In other respects, this is a dead-end machine, maybe _7d_ :-/ makes it impossible
at least some thread development of architecture.
At the same time, there is no monopolist in the Pentagon -
as a result, very good software
support (and support in general) is enviable.

yes, in Scorpio Torbo is poorly made (shakes)
that’s why it doesn’t work for me another transmission via modem to turbo.

but in (I know for sure) in atm torbo works.

who told you that turbo mode in a scorp is turbo?

well, as if it actually works faster in some cases. those. as someone
told me that with turbo, working with computing. by
commands it goes faster, but working with
memory I don’t know

what’s working in the ROM (probably by computational commands you meant subroutines of basic
a) - everywhere by 2 times, as for RAM, scorp
it’s 43% performance, kay-70-80%,
those Kay is 2 times turbocharged scorpion

:Q
not likeI know that with turbo on a scorp
commands that do not work with memory (type
LD A,A ; ADD A,A ; INC A; etc. I work
t faster, but about commands that work
with memory (type LD (HL), A) I can’t say anything
the main brakes are in the memory, kay uses
almost all cycles (95%). For this
the processor cycles change. As for specific commands, the subtleties are not important.
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... for some reason no one is calling...;(
Igor. gone...
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can I ask Mr. NEMO

Why is he here? To drink beer???

...

what does “HEMO” mean?

here as a direct person.

I really wanted to know why he took such a pseudonym, and what does it mean?
???

Nemo (lat) - no one. Operation with an empty set
leads to a paradox

Seriously, I wanted to know
what Nemo is going to develop further...

developments, of course, but I would like to. I would
pay attention to the fact that the advantage of
the spectrum is not the hardware power
6.

okay... now I've got my hands on the keyboard
y, otherwise you're all kind of slow to type...
so let's come up with the questions....

we'll come up with the answers ;)

ok. Comrade Nemo is not going to develop
any hardware developments?

Spectrum,is developing very slowly, the pyramid
is being built quickly.

load... if possible, short and more definite
answers....
Hy, so Comrade. Will Nemo do something
or just KAY?

Nemo will have enough of motherboards alone. They
need to be supported, like Spectrum clones.
Peripherals should be made by independent
companies, and I will support them. It's impossible
to do everything yourself.

If we develop something, can you
help us organize production
? (help with seals, etc.)..?

of course, but you will have to take responsibility
for quality to the users.
Help will not be of a monetary nature, of course. no-hay
and advertising support.

ok. Let's keep in mind...and signets are cheap
Comrade. Nemo won't sell?

You're making shit (lit. expression). Who will answer???

I meant breadboards with slots Comrade. Nemo
could you sell it? and where can I buy it? ;)

layouts are sold individually on the radio market
tray n10. Layouts started selling earlier
than similar products from other companies.
You have to be a little smart. I can't identify you individually.
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Timofey Lapo: here and in other places I omit
unnecessary details... and also carry out censorship. :)
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almost all KAYa users would like to have a Shadow Viktor.

(c)Nemo is a shadow product of a full-time programmer at the Scorpio company. Copyright must
be respected. However, I can’t vouch for the further development of events, because my turbo mode has been removed from GMX, which took half a year of professional work to develop. If
Larchenko had not been a pocket programmer,
then he would have had a wider distribution.

What about STS, if you come to an agreement with the programmer,
then they will shove it to you wherever you want.

The real option is the transition vector from shadow pzy (nmi)
on ozy.

i.e. press the magick and put it in PZY (where OZY instead of PZY)?
or if in memory, then this is also implemented in 48 Basik...

technical details are not significant.
The important thing is that the best program of those
that programmers will write will sit there. whether
it will be sts or something else is up to you to decide.

ok. better con. STS.
In general, is it really possible to implement such a feature:
it’s kind of stuck into a slot, and it’s hardware
scrolling up bottom left right!?

I don’t know the architecture of the spec - it’s impossible.
it’s block graphics.

:( it’s a pity... but how can you further increase the speed spec?

switch to a new percentage (for example z180).

how many megahertz and what about undocumented
commands, and is there a lot of troubleshooting on the computer?

those problems are a big QUESTION

ahh, I wanted to ask Comrade Nemo if he knows
what is possible. music on the marketto drive?

those problems meant rolling up the
screen.
1. Thanks to the fact that you care about your equipment, NEW computers are not sold. Spectrum is, first of all, architecture, and not a manufacturer and not a specific board
2. With the help of the “shine” structure, I keep
the liquid price of computers is 100 thousand rubles
the liquid price of KAY is 200 thousand rubles.
3. Regarding musicals - talk to the dealers on the market (Tim: 15 kilos of rubles)

1. We don’t change, but IMPROVE! because It's
cheaper than buying a new computer.
What's the point in buying a new computer that's
a little new. and I should just throw out the old one!
2.what is the liquid price?
3. thank you

ok. call back in 10 minutes - maybe
4 someone else wants to call.
now we answer: 1. you can’t write a computer
on a table - this is not a novel. if you add
16 MB of brains, it won’t make you any easier. architecture
must be standard.
2. the spectrum is being improved very slowly.
fetishes are created quickly.
liquid price-cash which you get by default for a working computer.
3. ok
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Timofey Lapo: speed, brains - sore points.

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Lapo: doesn’t like the network Hemo

I don’t know why not to love him, man tries
to do something, but :((
you have to do it, that’s how the machine does itwhich is much different from all existing or similar,
but cheaper, then there will be a demand for the product..

(c) Nemo
there are two stupidities: 1. the power of the computer
is determined by the power of the equipment.
2. it is necessary to create a new architecture. The efficiency of the equipment depends on the quality of the structure, and secondly on the power of the equipment. Spec can only develop evolutionarily. Any new architecture means creating a new platform, and this is unrealistic.

ok. IMHO it would be speed, and it would not be very difficult to improve the rest
.

this, accordingly, is selling a new batch of computers.
who will buy them if everyone improves them?

what I don’t understand... if only we could make a machine
at high speed and with slots in which
to display all the necessary points. and installed a modem in the slot, and also plugged in various chips. That would be good

development in all respects is continuous.
sales are necessary... as for the tire - then
first of all - versatility. It
took 5 years. This is exactly what was required to
promote the tire to the market and turn it
into a de facto standard. Scorpio doesn’t need it,
because it breaks the monopoly.

it’s clear. yes, IMHO zx is not a pc :)
that's just for fun, but what's the point
to make a pc out of a spec if it's easier to buy a pc right away?

spec is, first of all, the ability of self-realization.
(including for you).,this
could be a good tool for the development
of domestic information technologies.
this is a way not to be a dummy.

:) exactly. Specki is basically a “mail”
machine and not a gaming machine.

Specs is an information subsystem of society,
something like samizdat. something must resist
the officialdom. people should be people.

DAMN!!!
express yourself more clearly next time ;)
there’s not even anything to say!
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Timofey: He can’t talk about this topic eternity.

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there are still several points for discussion;)

for example?

club!!!!!!!!!!!!! g)

spec club?

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rulezzz!!!!! just who organizes everything, and for what purposes?

1. if it is Scorpio, Peters, Kay,
ibm (etc), then the purpose and meaning are clear. if this
is the initiative of users (and they will
pay money (at least for the premises))
the club will reflect their interests.
2. Your initiative alone is needed
it is beyond your power. your energy is needed.
I will support this, because it is necessary
for organic development.
this is a very powerful structure for supporting the platform of the spectrum.
you can attract a sponsor, but under a commercial
loan, as a result in the club Your last pants will be taken off. who pays is the oneorders
the music. Zonov is not interested in this, since it destroys his monopoly.

it’s clear, well, for example, if there is a club, then
to begin with, what size and how much will it cost in total
to maintain it?

the premises in a residential area are quite decent,
- 4 kilo rubles per nose, once per week,
for example on Wednesdays.

what kind of residential area and how many people
can normally hang out there?

this is a cinema, but in private, excesses are possible. the status of a public organization is required. who will be responsible if the events of Inlight97 are repeated there? - You? what is called necome il faut. I could, for example
advise users, provide
technical support. docks I think that
6apkov, and Mednonogov, and Eliseev would help - these are independent
firms.
ok. Nemo went for cigarettes - clink in 10 minutes.
he will be back :)
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Timofey: my log flew, so we lost the final part (not a big loss). what can I say?
I liked the idea. We have known Nemo for a long time, however
this does not mean that I _completely_ share his views.
He has a network representative... ;)
Nemo really wants to do something, howeverWithout support
he can't do anything. And now - an appeal to the people...

(c) Nemo
So, the conference is over. More
active participation was expected. ;( In fact, such conferences are a very effective way to obtain unique
information.
Uniqueness is understood not as specific information, but as the fact of communication in real time. This is the moment
of truth, because there is no
time to maintain one’s own image. Everyone costs exactly what they cost.
Judging from the first experience:
1) provocative applications can rotate the user's butt
2) a transparent (that is, 50/50) line mode is required. That is,
questions should be shorter, one session - ten minutes.
And ten minutes is a free line.
3) questions need to be asked one at a time, otherwise they won’t fit
on the screen.
4) some questions were unclear :))))))))))))))))))))

It would be useful to do such conferences with others figures of the
spectrum scene.
Now on the network: this topic has dropped out of discussion.
Use more actively representatives of interests (correspondents)
of any companies - this is a way to get very valuable information.
Such activities should be encouraged by the network administrator,
as it overcomes the suck. Realizing that in a certain
sense this is self-promotion,
at the same time I think this conference with certain support
of the network, including microscopic contributions toovercoming
its sludge.
In a sludge like the Internet, the administrator's responsibilities include
ordering certain topics from recognized experts.
It is necessary to work more closely with manufacturers of both modems
and other hardware manufacturers, because if not all, then
at least many of them are vitally interested in
high-quality support for both their own equipment
and the Spectrum platform in general. In production, money
is invested for years in advance. Therefore, the stability of spectrum structures (including the network) is important for them. They can, for example, gently
put presumptuous administrators in their place.
It is useful to think right now about increasing the exchange speed by
twice. When a pay phone is introduced (sooner or later this will happen), the network will have a strong blow. The Hemo company is ready to distribute information related to the organization of spectrum networks in other cities, if it is provided. Condition: the logos of the SCORPION/KAY companies must either be used an equal number of times, or not to be used at all.
The questions asked were sometimes perplexing
by their obviousness. In order to communicate some information
you need to know what exactly interests a particular user.
If there are no questions through a representative on the network, there will be
no answers.
If the desire arises, you can hold such conferencesregularly,
for example once every 5 years ;). It’s possible more often... See you later!

PS: Timofey, write me your opinion about this action
If you liked it, you can repeat it.
And also, I edited EVERYTHING I could (there were a lot of mistakes),
and scrapped the rest. Don't be angry...
Bye!
Timofey Lapo, 195279, PO Box 271

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