attribute.video

Here an idea was born on how to easily create an attribute video (when one
pixel is equal to one familiarity):

1. In 3DStudioMax or anywhere else, create a color video with a frame size of 32x24
2. Scale each frame of the video 8 times in X and Y.
3. The resulting frames are 256x192 in size (for example, in bmp format)
4. Then you can easily convert them into scr format (for example, using zxc)
5. In each scr, you cut off 6144 bytes with graphics and leave 768 bytes with
attributes, which, in fact, was what you should have received.

Summary:
a) 2IG: please add it to the faq
b) when using an idea, a link to copyright is required :))

Warm greetings, Slava!

Once Vyacheslav Mednonogov 14 Feb 98 at 18:12 wrote, addressing All :

VM> Here an idea was born on how to easily create an attribute video (when
VM> one pixel is equal to one familiarity):

I had it for a long time, but in a slightly different form:
Distilling ready-made videos: divide the frame by 32 x and 24 by y, we determine
the predominant color in each square, match it with the most similar one from
the palette of 64 Speck colors, fill the disk (848 pictures) and show
on the screen, loading them with a super turbo loader with music (POWER_UP).

All the best, Alexey.

VM> (when one pixel is equal to one familiarity):

VM> 1. In 3DStudioMax or wherever else you create a color video with
VM> frame size 32x24
VM> 2. Each frame of the video is scaled 8 times in X and Y.
VM> 3. The resulting frames are 256x192 in size (for example, in the format bmp)
VM> 4. Then easily convert them to the scr format (for example, with
VM> using zxc)
VM> 5. In each scr, cut off 6144 bytes with graphics and leave
VM> 768 bytes with attributes, which, in fact, was what you should have gotten.

You can also double the resolution horizontally or vertically without
special problems. Or make a 4x4 pixel, but this is with reference to
cycles and dynamic change of video pages.
Sincerely
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It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Vyacheslav
Mednonogov to All Sat Feb 14, 1998 at 18:12...

VM> Here an idea was born on how to create an attribute video without problems (when
VM> one pixel is equal to one familiarity):
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VM> Summary:
VM> a) 2IG: please add it to the faq
VM> b) when using an idea, a link to copyright is required :))

Has the idea been tested? Or just a theory? If it’s the first, I’ll add it to the faculty.

With all kinds of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... The angry stands applauded the judge with their fists.

AB> I had it for a long time, but in a slightly different form:
AB> Distill ready-made videos: divide the frame into 32 in x and 24 in y, determine
AB> in each square the predominant color, match it with the most similar
AB> palette of 64 Speck colors, fill the disk (848 pictures) and show
AB> on the screen, loading them with a super turbo loader with music (POWER_UP).

Is there an attribute video in the powerup?

AB> I had it for a long time, but in a slightly different form:
AB> Distill ready-made videos: divide the frame into 32 in x and 24 in y, determine
AB> in each square the predominant color, match it with the most similar one from
AB> the palette of 64 Speck colors,

AB>> we determine the predominant color in each square, match it
AB>> the most similar from the palette of 64 Speck colors,

VM> Mine has a slight advantage - it is not necessary to write special
VM> converters. That's the whole point.

And in my opinion, it's better to write a converter once, and then enjoy the thrill all your life :)
I have one more suggestion for everything: permission to create 1x8, or at least 2x8
(multicolor). Then it would be quite real.

And one more thing. I had one wild idea here, but I didn’t dare to share it with the wider world. What if you convert frames from some movie (at 15 FPS
you can already watch it), record the sound track on a cassette, synchronize it, and bam
it’s no longer Spectrum, but video. The benefit of films is now up to ...., and the opportunity to fight in any
resolution. True, there will be disks....

With respect, GodFather.

VY> You can also double the horizontal or vertical resolution without
VY> any problems. Or make a 4x4 pixel, but this is with reference to
VY> clock cycles and dynamic change of video pages.
VY> Sincerely
VY> ┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
VY> ╨ґ╨╙ґ╨╙ ╨ ╨
Damn, such an effect, we were going to insert it into our demo (at FT'98), but now
I don’t know...

With maximum respect, Andy Harchenko.

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Denis Markelov to
Vyacheslav Mednonogov Tue Feb 17, 1998 at 02:13...

DM> And one more thing. I had one wild idea here, but I still didn’t dare to share it with the wider world
DM>. What if you convert frames from some movie (at
DM> 15 FPS - you can already watch), record the sound track on a cassette,
DM> synchronize it, and bam - it’s no longer Spectrum, but video. The benefit of movies right now is up to
DM> ...., and the opportunity to shoot in any resolution. True, there will be disks....

Or do it like in Powerup. Well, it looks quite cool. And the music plays.
I wonder how many of these 'videos' will fit on a floppy disk? Like a short cartoon. ;) By the way, the issue of video discs was raised here a long time ago. Slava
Mednonogov once painted a b/w (pixel-by-pixel) video image. It seems like
the reasoning ended with the fact that the theory makes it possible to do (not full
screen, IMHO) but no one needs it - there is too much work.

Once Igor Gruzdev 16 Feb 98 at 12:12 pm wrote, addressing Alex Baskakov:

IG> Hello, Alex!

IG> It’s quiet outside, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Alex
IG> Baskakov to Vyacheslav Mednonogov Sun Feb 15, 1998 at 09:45...

IG> Has the idea been tested? Or just a theory? If it’s the first, I’ll add it to the FAQ.

Just a theory (or rather, this is how the loading image for the 2nd disk of the CV was made).
Okay, add it when it’s tested :)

Warm greetings, Slava!

IG> Or do it like in Powerup. Well, it looks quite cool. And the music plays.
IG> I wonder how many of these “videos” will fit on a floppy disk? Like
IG> a short cartoon. ;) By the way, the issue of video discs was raised here a long time ago. Slava Mednonogov once painted a b/w
IG> (pixel-by-pixel) video image. It seems like the reasoning ended with
IG> that the theory makes it possible to do (not full screen, IMHO) but no one
IG> needs it - there is too much work.
But you can do it interlinear.
And the missing lines can be supplemented with a copy at the top, or left blank.
This will increase the speed of loading/displaying on the screen. If all this
fits into 2 ints, then the result will be a regular VHS-VIDEO.

With Best Wishes. [TEAM Speccy-r00leZ] [TEAM X-fILes]
[TEAM ┼he Pr0d!9Y] MaGeLan.

If you connect a CD or a screw, then... Well, you can do it on a bunch of floppy disks (this depends on
opportunities and desires :). By the way, how many terribly packed pictures will fit on a disc (there is no need to output music), in 16x14 spaces, with the same attributes? (Well, to be able to show at least 15 frames per second, taking into account reading from the disk - or is this completely unrealistic?).

IG> Like a short cartoon. ;)

It's like packing...

IG> By the way, the issue of video discs was raised here a long time ago. Slava
IG> Mednonogov once painted a b/w (pixel-by-pixel) video image.
IG> It seems like the reasoning ended with the fact that the theory makes it possible
IG> to do (not a full screen, IMHO) but no one needs it - there is too much work
IG>.

If people need it (at least a person dial 50-100), and there is a person who is ready to write a converter and viewer (on the Spectrum) - then I can take on this noble
mission ;) Fortunately, there is an opportunity. And if things work out, then we can
put everything on the conveyor belt: for example, “fifth element 2” (or something else
something) comes out, and we’ll immediately speck it.

P.S. In general, if anyone is interested in this topic, do not hesitate to write;)
With respect, GodFather.

DM> If people need (at least 50-100 people to recruit), and there is a person
DM> ready to write a converter and viewer (on the Spectrum) - then take on this

On the Spectrum it would be enough to write video_player, and God himself ordered to convert/record on a more powerful computer. ;)

DM> I can do a noble mission too ;) Fortunately, there is an opportunity. And if things work out
DM>, then you can put everything on the assembly line: for example, “fifth element 2”
DM> comes out (or something else), and we immediately speck it.

:) On a hundred/other floppy disks. ;)

DM> P.S. In general, if anyone is interested in this topic - write, don’t hesitate

It would be interesting to see at least a minute-long video similar to the same, more than once
mentioned, verap... Actually, it’s already ready, all that’s left is to convert and record, plus rip out that same player from the demo. :)

It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Max Lanskih to
Igor Gruzdev Wed Feb 18 1998 at 23:12...

IG>> here once upon a time. Slava Mednonogov once painted a b/w
IG>> (pixel-by-pixel) video image. It seems like the reasoning ended at
IG>> that the theory makes it possible to do (not a full screen, IMHO) but no one
IG>> needs this - there is too much work.
ML> But you can do it interlinear.
ML> And the missing lines can be supplemented with a copy at the top, or left blank.
ML> This will increase the speed of loading/displaying on the screen. If all this
ML> fits into 2 ints, then it will turn out to be a regular VHS-VIDEO.

Give multimedia to the spectrum! :)

VM> b) when using the idea, a link to copyright is required :))

hey, but you can horizontally or vertically 2 times the resolution
raise more :)

Guess how.

(C) I.

Good Luck...

... IBM: Yesterday's technology today!

DM> But in my opinion, it’s better to write a converter once, and then enjoy the thrill all your life
DM> :) I have one more suggestion for everything: permission to make 1x8,
DM> or at least 2x8 (multicolor). Then it would be quite real.

so if you do it as you say, then the animation will come out of 3
frames :) And this is no longer animation ;)

DM> And one more thing. I had one wild idea here, but I still didn’t dare to share it with the wider world. What if you convert frames from some movie
DM> (at 15 FPS - you can already watch), record the sound track on a cassette,
DM> synchronize it, and bam - it’s no longer Spectrum, but video. The benefit of films now
DM> up to ...., and the opportunity to shoot in any resolution. True, there will be discs
DM>....

haha, I have never heard a more crazy idea ;))))

Good Luck...

... Strike any user to continue.

And let the voice below run like a creeping line...

With warm greetings, Slava!

ps\ I won’t say who, but it was this (these) someone who made (is making?) a whole flexible
video disc, which he intends to include in his commercial product (it’s not
me:)

> P.S. In general, if anyone is interested in this topic - write, don’t
> hesitate ;) Sincerely, GodFather.
I think it’s realistic to create your own format for recording frames in which not the entire
frame is changed, but only part of it - something like an MPEG, but you need to write an encoder - for example,
take a video, decompose it into separate frames, frames are laid out into lines
(preferably on a computer ;) then - a frame is taken, compared line by line with the next one
and the difference is recorded. We receive a data stream, which we play on the spec
player. Although the implementation may not be as simple as it seems...

Best regards, Konstantin.

MR> hey, can you use 2 times the resolution horizontally or vertically
MR> raise it further :)

Fuck off :)) I care about an immeasurable number of flowers.

Warm greetings, Slava!

VM> Fuck off :)) I care about an immeasurable number of colors.

hey, well, the brightness will just go straight to the 2nd point in case. so
it will give additional charm ;)

Good Luck...

... Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.

VY>> ╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨

AH> Damn, we were going to insert such an effect into our demo (at FT'98), but now
AH> I don’t know...

What are you talking about? Demes have not been written for effects for a long time. We need a concept, a plot, a script. All effects are connecting elements, like graphics and music.
Of course it’s good when there is something revolutionary (it should be), but you can
make a hyper-design development and... WIN DA COMPO =)

Be sure to do what you have in mind. Sharpen, polish, fix!

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru · · · · · ·

VM>>> Here an idea was born on how to create an attribute video without problems (when
VM>>> one pixel is equal to one familiarity):
AB>> I had it for a long time, but in a slightly different form:
AB>> Distill ready-made videos: divide the frame into 32 in x and 24 in y,

DM> P.S. In general, if whom this topic interested - write, not hesitate
DM> ;) Sincerely, GodFather. HАФИГА?

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·

DM>> 2" (or something else), and we immediately speck it.

IG> :) On a hundred or other floppy disks. ;)

No, if 8x8, then 2 minutes on a floppy disk. After simple calculations - 1.5 hours
a decent movie - 45 floppy disks :) & :(

IG> It would be interesting to see at least a minute-long video similar to the same one mentioned more than once
IG>, believer... Actually, it’s already ready, all that remains is
IG> small task - convert and record, plus rip out that very player from the demo. :)

There is even the first candidate - Bill Gates gets a cake shoved in his pug :)

Sincerely, GodFather.

Thu Feb 19 1998 03:11, Denis Markelov wrote to Igor Gruzdev:
[about video on Spectrum]

Count.
Spectrum screen - 6k.
50 frames per second - 300Kb/s.
Only HDD will handle it. Directly upload from HDD to the screen.
Plus sound - 22Kb/s on COVOX.
You can save -> 25 frames per second -> 150Kb/s.

Sprinter - 21MHz -> reading from HDD 300kb/s
HDD capacity 40Mb/(150+22) -> approximately 240 seconds - 4 minutes.
If you connect a two-speed CD-ROM, 640Mb -> 64 minutes.

What is it? :))

Ivan

Fri Feb 20, 1998, Konstantin Winogradow writes to Denis Markelov:

KW> I’m thinking about actually creating my own frame recording format in which it’s not
KW> the whole frame that changes, but only part of it - something like an MPEG, but you need to write a coder
KW> - for example, a video is taken, divided into separate frames,
KW> frames are laid out into lines (preferably on a computer ;) then a frame is taken,
KW> is compared line by line with the next one and the difference is recorded. We receive
KW> a data stream, which we play on the spec with the player. Although the implementation may
KW> turn out to be not as simple as it seems...

I once did something like this: I took two frames, superimposed one on top of the other
via XOR, and the result was a frame with rather loose graphics - 80% or more filled with
zeros. Now you just need to compress the resulting frame (it compresses much better than a regular frame). When outputting to the screen: the first frame is displayed in normal form
(base), the next frame uncompressed into the buffer
is XORed onto it, and if the current byte is zero, then we simply skip it and move
to the next byte of the frame.
All this tested and works.

$$$ With best wishes... Alex

MR>> permission to raise more :)

VM> Fuck off :)) I care about an unlimited number of colors.

Then I have a cool idea for you - use the entire
screen as one big pixel! True, the resolution will not be very good,
but the colors are absolutely immeasurable! :))
Sincerely
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AH> It’s old, and it makes me feel senile. WHAT?

But, for example, there is an emergency... ugh, I missed the button, ChV-2. It comes with a pack of floppy disks with an intro in real video. And one more pack with the final cut. ;) Can you imagine how much money you can withdraw for this? F-)

P.S.2tormoz: Just kidding!

IG>> here once upon a time. Slava Mednonogov once painted a b/w
IG>> (pixel-by-pixel) video image. It seems like the reasoning ended at
IG>> that the theory makes it possible to do (not a full screen, IMHO) but no one
IG>> needs this - there is too much work.
ML> But you can do it interlinear.
ML> And the missing lines can be supplemented with a copy at the top, or left blank.
ML> This will increase the speed of loading/displaying on the screen. If all this
ML> fits into 2 ints, then the result will be a regular VHS-VIDEO.

Hi Ivan!

IM> Count.
IM> Spectrum screen - 6k.
IM> 50 frames per second - 300Kb/s.
IM> Only the HDD will handle it. Directly upload from HDD to the screen.
IM> Plus sound - 22Kb/s on COVOX.
IM> You can save -> 25 frames per second -> 150Kb/s.

COVOX will you play through the frame?

IM> Sprinter - 21MHz -> reading from HDD 300kb/s
IM> HDD volume 40Mb/(150+22) -> approximately 240 seconds - 4 minutes.
IM> If you connect a two-speed CD-ROM, 640Mb -> 64 minutes.

IM> What is it? :))

I wouldn't be proud of it... look at PowerUp .

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DM> If people need to recruit (at least 50-100 people), and there is a person
DM> ready to write a converter and viewer (on the Spectrum) - then I can take on this
DM> noble mission ;) Fortunately, there is an opportunity. And if things go well
DM>, then you can put everything on the conveyor belt: for example, it turns out “the fifth element

KW> the whole frame, but only part of it - something like an mpega, but you need to write an encoder -
KW> for example,
KW> the video is taken, decomposed into separate frames, the frames are decomposed into
KW> lines
KW> (preferably on a computer ;) then - the frame is taken, is compared line by line with the next
KW> and the difference is recorded. We receive a data stream, which we play on the spec
KW> player. Although the implementation may not be as simple as it seems
KW>...
Do you even understand what you are talking about? Have you been sitting on the emulsion for too long? I think you forgot
about the 5'25 disk drive and the 3.5Mhz processor.

All the best, Alexey.

AB> Indeed, people, stop self-medicating.
AB> Well, the spec does not and will not have a normal video... Forget about subj,
AB> Can’t you imagine what an ugliness this will be?
Oh, Alex, Alex... And how did you defend this idea 2 years ago, when I dipped it
in turd. I forgot to see...
But if you look at things soberly, then this is really wretchedness, and there’s no point in doing
nonsense.

IM> Count.
IM> Spectrum screen - 6k.
IM> 50 frames per second - 300Kb/s.
IM> Only HDD will handle it. Directly upload from HDD to the screen.
IM> Plus sound - 22Kb/s on COVOX.
IM> You can save -> 25 frames per second -> 150Kb/s.

KW> I think it’s realistic to create your own frame recording format in which it’s not the whole frame that changes
KW>, but only part of it - something like MPEG, but you need to write an encoder -
KW> for example,
KW> you take a video, decompose it into separate frames, frames are decomposed on
KW> lines
KW> (preferably on a pisyuk ;) then - a frame is taken, line by line compared with the
KW> subsequent
KW> and the difference is recorded. We receive a data stream, which we play on the spec
KW> player. Although the implementation may not be as simple as it seems
KW>...

23 Feb 98 12:24, Alex Gofman wrote to Konstantin Winogradow:

AG> I once did something like this: I took two frames, superimposed
AG> one on top of the other via XOR, the result was a frame with rather loose
AG> graphics - 80% or more clogged zeros. Now you just need
AG> to compress the resulting frame (it compresses much better than a regular frame). When
AG> is output to the screen: the first frame is displayed in normal
AG> form (basic), the next
AG> uncompressed into the frame buffer is XORed onto it, and if the current byte
AG> is equal to zero, then we simply skip it and go to to the next
AG> byte of the frame. All this has been tested and works.

The sprite aniation in Dizzy is done using the same method.
By the way, isn’t it faster to Xort everything than to
check every byte for zero? You can even
decompress directly into the screen with Xor.
Sincerely
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╨ґ╨╙ґ╨╙ ╨ ╨

IM> What is it? :))

Cool!!! I bought three dozen floppy disks, erased everything from the screw, copied the floppy disks there - and
4 minutes of BLISS! ;) The authors of the films would hang themselves if they knew ;)

IM> Ivan

Sincerely, Dmitry (OLDMAN).
ZXNet: 095/100.1
old...@i-connect.ru

IG> But, for example, there is an emergency... ugh, I missed the button, ChV-2. Included with it
IG> is a pack of floppy disks with an intro in real video. And one more pack with the final cut. ;)
IG> Can you imagine how much money you can withdraw for this? F-)

Uh-huh! Traders transport disks by cart, Scorpio sends them by railcar to intercity cities.
The empire is growing, everyone is buying disk drives! Mednonogov opens branches for writing floppy disks in different cities and countries! A hole in the economy - the whole country is working on
an extra hundred disks from flick to CV, everyone is in panic... The Dow Jones has been smashed into a pancake... Horrible!

IG> P.S.2tormoz: Just kidding!

AA Similar =)

cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · · · · Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·

ML> it’s pixelated, not attribute-based, and it didn’t look bad. They also said
ML> that that day was the birthday of multimedia on Spec.

this was probably said by some brakes who had just bought a Spectrum
and had not seen anything other than this (from earlier work).

Everything was a long time ago, before this...

Good Luck...

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