ASM by Sandetsky ????? ;(

Greetings, dear All!

People, we recently came across a very ancient version of ASM Sound Master
v1.01, in connection with which the question arose, is Sendetsky really the
author of
ASM or did he modify ASM from the company OCEAN (c) 1994 or is this someone’s cruel joke in favor OCEAN perform the Mouzons that were included in the ASM kit, in favor of
Sendetsky, subsequent versions of ASM. To avoid being unfounded, I throw it into the echo...

With respect, Andrey Mihaylow

AM> Folks, we recently came across a very ancient version of ASM Sound
AM> Master v1.01, in connection with which the question arose, is Sendetsky
AM> really the
AM> author of
AM> ASM or did he modify ASM from the company OCEAN (c) 1994 or is this someone’s evil
AM> joke, in favor of OCEAN are the Mouzons that were included in the ASM kit, in favor of
AM> Sendetsky subsequent versions of ASM. To avoid being unfounded, I’m throwing in an echo in
AM>...

I heard something similar a very long time ago, but there is no confirming or refuting information.

C Best regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

02 Nov 97 08:28, Alex Letaev reported to Andrey Mihaylow about {Re: ASM by Sandetsky
????? ;(}:

AM>> question, is Sendetsky really the author of ASM?

ha ha, well, come on, Slava DKU was really made by Kolya, and the Elite was made by
Firebird. It was only later that all sorts of “programmers” began to improve Lita (and
then and/or before that DKU ;) so it’s not the same series (sort of IMHO)
or that CopperFeet’s UFO:) MicroProse didn’t ask you to give money? he
he

>
> Warm greetings, Slava!

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AM> is the author of ASM or he modified ASM from OCEAN (c) 1994 or
MA> this is someone’s cruel joke,

The devil knows, but all these are our thoughts and there is little truth in them,
you need to ask ASC himself, I even had his fidosh address,
it’s just lost :(

MA> in favor of OCEAN are the Mouzons that were included in the ASM kit,

As for the Mouzons, IMHO, the point here is probably that it is very likely
that the original modules (Protracker MOD) were written by musicians
Ocean, and then ASC and OKO were converted into the ASM format.
2All: By the way, who are they? Ant.P ?

MA> in favor of Sendetsky subsequent versions of ASM.

That's right, even if the first version was from Ocean (which I strongly
doubt), then ASC figured it out like Kladov in Elite and made
a very good editor. Hooray comrades!

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AH> This has long been known - ASM is the property of Ocean.
AH> It (the editor) was completed/redesigned (and very much) by Andrey
AH> Sendetsky.
AH> There is no secret here...

We'll know. Interesting information.

ALL<= Or maybe someone knows something similar about Elite II Kladovskaya?

AM> this is someone's cruel joke, in favor of OCEAN are the Mouzons that were included
AM> in the ASM kit, in favor of Sendetsky, subsequent versions of ASM. In order to avoid
AM> being unfounded, I throw it into the echo...

ASM (I used 1.11) came out at the end of 93. I got it in January-February 1994.

I wish you good luck!
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AL>> I heard something similar a very long time ago, but there is neither confirming nor
AL>> refuting information.

VM> Rumors from the series about Rodionov’s DCU or Kladov’s Elite ;)

DCU imho Rodionov himself wrote, but it is unknown about Elite.

AH>> Sendetsky. There is no secret here...

OT> This is the first time I’ve heard it, however, I’ll note something else: the tunes from that set are
OT> converted stms (or mods) from IBM. So you can’t say that there
OT> the ocean company had something to do with it.

It’s hard to believe, rather the opposite.

>> VP> then Firebird.
>>
>> Elite 2 / 3?

VP> I’m talking about the originals.
VP> by the way, Seryoga, have you seen the Elite 128th brand? maybe there really is a
VP>? you need to ask the guys in CSS

In The Spectrum Games Database it was written that it is no different from 48.
It’s just that the 48th, or something, didn’t run in 128 mode...

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AM>> Sound Master v1.01 in connection with which the question arose, is it really
AM>> Sendetsky is the author of ASM or he modified ASM from the company
AM>> OCEAN (c) 1994

OT> The most interesting thing is that there was never any talk about any ASM from the ocean.
OT> There were only a few options from Sendetsky. In particular, those that
OT> used simple floppy disks (trdos) and
OT> non-standard formatted ones for storing data.

No, there really was such a version, I’ve had it lying around somewhere for a long time, after all, all the details are indicated (foreign telephone numbers, names of authors and advertising
small), I’m thinking, if this is a fake, then whose fevered mind could have thought of this?
Usually everyone was limited to inscriptions like Vasia Soft

Kuzma

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04 Nov 97 06:44, Alex Letaev reported to Vyacheslav Mednonogov about {Re: ASM by
Sandetsky ????? ;(}:

VM>> Rumors from the series about Rodionov's DCU or Kladov's Elite ;)
AL> DCU imho Rodionov wrote it himself, but it is unknown about Elite.

Well, there is no doubt that Kladov did not rewrite Elite from scratch ;) But
did he have a hand in it at all? (except for protection with “signatures” :)

Warm greetings, Slava!

IG> By the way, in St. Petersburg (long ago, when there were no disk drives yet, or there were, but
IG> there were few versions of Elites on cassettes, but they were all
IG> similar. A little later a version appeared, which, according to the sellers, was elite-2 or elite-128. The differences from the original running version,
IG> as far as I remember, were only in the fact that the ships took off from the base. And
IG> that's it. However, I got to Deadly, completing the standard three missions, then
IG> I got tired of it. Whether it was really 128 elite (but why 128? It seems like
IG> it was going to 48), or was there a _normal_ full version of the first one - I don’t know this
IG>. And yet, in the ZX-Review a lot of space was devoted to the elite,
IG> and, if I’m mistaken, they considered such an option (which I described), and
IG> came to the conclusion that this was still elite-1, but just a normal-complete
IG> version.

There was a common version on cassettes with the inscription at loading M128, but
I think these are traces of the work of some bourgeois medzhik, and on 48 it worked
normally.

>maybe, however, unlike the rest of the first elites, in this
>ships took off from the station (if you shoot at that one).
>Even after comparison with the usual one, the results showed that
>there is less text in the M128!

as I said, yes, this is another Snapshot, and the version is really the 128th,
because it could work on the 128th :) (and not because only on 128th - as is our custom:) bugs were fixed - all sorts of millions during shipment (well, you
understand me, heh heh). here.

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AL>> ALL<= Or maybe someone knows something similar about Elite II Kladovskaya?
EM> There was something in the ZX-Review some year back in 94.

I mean about the authorship. I have a xeroxed description from the review.

AH> Here, IMHO, not about the program itself, but about the interface of Pete Kukowski, so
AH> beloved programmer Nikolas Rodionov =)

Ah, about the windows. I could just look at the idea.

Thursday November 06 1997 08:55, Alex Letaev wrote to Igor Gruzdev:

AL> There was a common version on cassettes with an inscription when loading M128, but

Thrown in by an imported analogue of Magic - multiface 128, by the way this miracle exists and
works in X128
=)

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AL>> but

AH> Abandoned by an imported analogue of Magic - multiface 128, by the way this miracle
AH> exists and works in X128 =)

I suspected that it was Magic, by the way they also had a special compressor for it
was, like our Dupaupac by Dupanov. :-))))))

AL> Yeah. :-))))))))))))))))))

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! What kind of people? Yes, Letaev didn’t think that you were still alive. Why don’t you remember how you MORTAL COMBAT on our neck
earned money. Or how you screwed Kolya Khudentsov (NICK),
with his PROTRACKER, I hope you haven’t forgotten.
A big “HELLO” to Isaev. They said that he was missing????

Evgeniy

Sun 09-Nov-97 11:41, Evgeniy Kudaev (2:5025/22.21) wrote a letter to Alex
Letaev:

EK> A big “HELLO” to Isaev. They said that he was missing????

He will outlive you.

With best wishes, Vladimir.

Saturday November 08 1997 20:28, Alex Letaev -> Artem Haritonov :

AL> I suspected that it was a Medzhik, by the way, they had a special compressor for it
AL> there was a special one, like our Dupaupac by Dupanov. :-))))))

By the way, was Dupanov a real person or is he a variation of Bill
Gilbert?

[Team SEVERE MODERATORS]
Oleg

AL>> Yeah. :-))))))))))))))))))

Notice AGA - an awesome graphics chip! :-)))))))))))

EK> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! What kind of people? Yes, Letaev didn’t think that you
EK> were still
EK> alive. Why don’t you remember how you MORTAL COMBAT is on our neck
~~~~~~~
Your problem is that I was never in MKHG, and we FFC successfully competed with it
and were not very friendly. :-)))))))))))))))

EK> they earned money. Or how you screwed Kolya Khudentsov (NICK),
EK> with his PROTRACKER, I hope you haven’t forgotten.

Gon, ProTracker It was not us who stole (FFC), but MKHG, and there’s no point in somehow
attaching me to this gang, don’t confuse me with Agaev either, sell the PC, buy
glasses!!! :-))))))) But I definitely haven’t forgotten all the _POWER_ of your work. :-))))))))))

AL> I mean about the authorship. I have a xeroxed description from the review.
Why is there anything about authorship? Naturally, he is not the author of the program, he is the author of the finishing touches... I don’t remember now, but it was about “authorship” there.
Like, what kind of protection, etc. etc. I'll have to look for this number, I don't remember already...

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

EM> And what is there about authorship? Naturally, he is not the author of the program, he is the author of the finishing touches... I don’t remember now, but it was about “authorship” and
EM> it was.
EM> Like, what kind of protection, etc. etc. I'll have to find this number, I don't remember it already...

Isn't it possible that a ready-made branded game was taken?

OT> By the way, was Dupanov a real person or is he a variation of Bill
OT> Gilbert?

He was real, he sold cassettes at Mitino. They were even going to beat him. :-)))))

Here is an excerpt from a piece of paper on his cassette, where the most ordinary games are recorded:

If your SPECTRUM has a memory capacity of 512k or more, then many games will have
very “cool” graphics - 256 colors, each point with its own color.
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

04/01/1993 Dupanov Alexey.

P.S. Well, isn't it loading?

AL> There was a common version on cassettes with the inscription when loading M128, but
AL> I think these are traces of the work of some bourgeois medzhik, and on 48 it
AL> worked fine.

Well, what the games gave out when loading from the cassette often depended on who
you bought this cassette from. :)

With all sorts of regards and wishes.
Igor.

... It's funny to think, but is it a joke!?

EM>> And what is there about authorship? Naturally, he is not the author of the program, he is the author of the finishing touches... I don’t remember now, but it was about “authorship” and
EM>> Like, what kind of protection, etc. etc. I'll have to find this number, I don't remember it already...

VP> maybe it’s true? only I’m too lazy to load a program from a tape with a capacity of 512
VP> kilo. it will take half a cassette :))))

So there are _ordinary_ games, and even medgy ones.

EM> And what is there about authorship? Naturally, he is not the author of the program,
EM> he is the author of the finishing touches... I don’t remember now, but it was about “authorship” and
EM> it was there. Like, what kind of protection, etc. etc. I'll have to find this number,
EM> I don't remember anymore...

Are we reading the echo? A couple of months ago I scanned this article and threw it into the echo...
Ordinary, yes :(

Warm greetings, Slava!