Asm

Recommend the subject for ZX. Better with a debugger. +where to get it.
I came across ALASM or whatever it was called... I was shocked.
It is extremely inconvenient to work with text.
By the way, maybe there are tools that allow you to type a program on a PC, then
also compile it on a PC and finally debug it in the Speck emulator. Or compile in Speck, but this is worse.

For this, allow me to bow out, with sincere respect to you.

25 March 98 Alexander Shherbakov was beating his fingers in the hope that Everyone would read about
Asm, I read it and decided to answer:

AS> Recommend a subject for ZX. Better with a debugger. +where
AS> to get it.
imho XAS is the best, but I don’t know where to get it.

Sincerely, Andrey.

... The hedgehog is a proud bird: if you kick it, it won’t fly!

Wed Mar 25 1998, Alexander Shherbakov writes to All:

AS> Recommend a subject for ZX. Better with a debugger. +where to get it.
AS> I came across ALASM or whatever it’s called... I was shocked.

I’m not a coder, but in my opinion most people work on ALASM and XAS and I don’t
understand why you didn’t like it.

AS> It’s extremely inconvenient to work with text.

And you have help for ALASM is there? :) In my opinion, it has almost everything you
need - searching for a line, replacing, copying, cutting, pasting a text block,
Russian/English, inserting code.

AS> By the way, maybe there are tools that allow you to type a program on
AS> PC, then compile it on PC too and finally debugging already in the Speck emulator.

There is such a thing, but it is more suitable for virtuals.

AS> Or
AS> compiling in Speck, but this is worse.

$$$ With best wishes ... Alex

AS> take it.
AI> imho XAS is the best, but I don’t know where to get it.

I’m throwing it into the echo for the second time, is it really true that not everyone has it yet?

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AS> PC, then also compile on PC and finally debug in the Speck emulator.
AS> Or compile in Speck, but this is worse.
In my opinion, the best one today is ZX-TASM by Konstantin
Afendikov & Vladimir Rubtsov (latest versions, of course)

for the package, Alexander, pakeda!
[Team thief Alos MUST DIE!]

You can write a program on a PC in a regular text editor, copy it
to Speccy, and directly load it into either ZX-Tasm or Tasm 2.0 by direct download,
and above - using Import tasm2.0. But Tasm does not understand Russian
letters, and also requires byte #1A at the end of the text, without which it will terribly glitch
or hang.
There is a second option: write the program on a PC and assemble it there using a cross-assembler, and then drag it onto the ZX. Unfortunately
I can’t tell you the names of the crosses - I wasn’t interested.

Bye, with a pack of viciouses, Pavel Fedin.

I wasn’t shocked, but I didn’t recognize it either.

AG> I’m not a coder, but in my opinion most people work on ALASM and
^^^^^^^^^^ Don’t be offended, but since you’re not a coder, it’s hard for you to
judge what’s more convenient when creating programs. I've tried 4 asma in my life:
GENS (two versions), TASM (3 versions), MASM (2 versions), XAS (4 versions), I tried and
STORM, but this large character is just killing me.
And as you can see, I'm sitting in XAS. There are many reasons and small reasons for this :)
Despite the fact that STORM is faster and the text editor of XAS is not the best.

AG> XASе
^^^^ Still, the majority of it is than in ALASM.

AG> and I don’t understand why you didn’t like it.
For taste and color, there are no comrades! ;)

Wiz zE BeSt WisHeZ 2 U!
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There are an infinite number of them. It’s better to have them all, and then figure it out.
AS> Better with a debugger.
They all have a debugger...
AS> +where to get it.
They opened a faq server here (and that’s good), ask there.

AH> ^^^^^^^^^^ Don't be offended, but since you're not a coder, it's hard for you
AH> to judge what's more convenient when creating programs. In my life I have tried
AH> 4 asma: GENS (two versions), TASM (3 versions), MASM (2 versions), XAS (4
AH> versions), I tried STORM, but this large character just
AH> kills me. And as you can see, I'm sitting in XAS. There are many reasons for this and small
AH> reasons :) Despite the fact that STORM is faster and the XAS text editor is not
AH> the best.

So you haven’t tried ZX ASM? IMHO, the most convenient assembler. A very successful
multi-window interface, so you don’t even need to read the doc to
understand it.

With God's blessing, Sergei Novikov aka Spirit^dR^sNG

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AS>> I came across ALASM or whatever it’s called... I was shocked.
AG*> I’m not a coder, but in my opinion most people work on ALASM and
AG*> XAS and I don’t understand why you didn’t like it.
Many people. Strangely unusual editing. I repeat, I didn’t work for a Speckie, I once worked on a Corvette, but editing was quite acceptable there.
There was even ESC and 5 function keys, not including a quite decent right
keyboard.

Thursday March 26 1998 20:20, Eugene Safronov for some reason wrote to Alexander
Shherbakov:

ES> In my opinion, the best one today is ZX-TASM by
ES> Konstantin Afendikov & Vladimir Rubtsov (latest versions, of course)
What kind of Asm is this? Throw it in, we'll see.

Sincerely, Konstantin.

Nu-nu, are you talking about that version, the demo of which they threw here? Without a screw, and even on a real Specky, IMHO, it’s a little hard to work with. All these overlays that are constantly loaded from the disk are very tiring. In addition,
there are options that assembler doesn’t need at all - Mouzon player, Minesweeper
(by the way, it’s not PRO at all, they could have been more modest). But version
3.0 of the same ZASM - I really liked it, I’m still using it, although
slowly but surely (for large work with a large number of files) I’m crawling
to Asm80 (by Slava Mednonogov, modified by Vova Hex). For those who are in the tank, I’ll explain - this assembler is on PC (exactly what people were recently asking about).

With respect, Roman aka Megus of BrainWave association.

[Team ZX-Spectrum] [Team Agatha Christie] [Team Metallica] [Team Iron Maiden]

ES>> yourself)

KS> What kind of Asm is this? Throw it in, we'll see.

Maybe 3.0, although you can ask Vova Rubtsov about something newer.

Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly

RP> Nu-nu, are you talking about the version they demoed here? Without a screw,
RP> and even on a real Specky, IMHO, it’s a little hard to work on it. All these overlays that are constantly loaded from the disk are very
RP> very tiring. In addition
RP> there are options that assembler doesn’t need at all - the Mouzon player,
RP> Minesweeper (by the way, it’s not a PRO, they could have been more modest). And
RP> here is version 3.0 of the same ZASM - I really liked it, I’m still sitting on it
RP>, although slowly but surely (for large work with a large number
RP> files) I’m crawling to Asm80 (by Slava Mednonogov, modified by Vova
RP> Hex). For those who are in the tank, I’ll explain - this assembler is on a PC (exactly what
RP> they were asking about recently).

Gee. There are also intermediate versions with which some Donetsk people are spoiled :) These are the rules! I don’t have one myself, since I don’t need it.
The encoder is at hand :) How would you like 3.0, by the way, but with more memory
for text, a file selection menu, etc.? By the way, I have doubts that it will still be a complete ZASM, in the sense as shown in the demo. Kostya Speck left :(,
and Volodya is calving :(

I can’t upload the latest version - the author is not me, but
ZX-Tasm(Zasm) v3.0 without any problems. But it’s probably better not in an echo, but with soap. If
you're interested, write me, I'll send you a message right away.

Well, packed, Konstantin, packed!

RP> Nu-nu, are you talking about that version, the demo of which they threw here? Without a screw,
RP> and even on a real Specky, IMHO, it’s a little hard to work on it. All these overlays that are constantly loaded from the disk are very
RP> very tiring. In addition
RP> there are options that assembler doesn’t need at all - the Mouzon player,
RP> Minesweeper (by the way, it’s not a PRO, they could have been more modest). A