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Hello, Andrew!

Fri 07-Mar-97 07:36, Andrew MOA (2:5030/25.1@fidonet) wrote a letter to Dmitry
Grigoryev:

AM> By the way, a question. What if we “forget” “full” support for mode 48
AM> in Scorpio. More precisely, in the current boards. “Full” means
AM> that the user will enter the monitor, but for “part” of the commands he will receive
AM> a “funny screen” with the message that “hardware no access”.

Uh, can you see the list of these commands?

With best wishes, Vladimir.

AM> mode in Scorpio. More precisely, in the current boards. “Full”
AM> means that the user will enter the monitor, but for “part” of the commands
AM> he will receive a “funny screen” with a message that “hardware no access”.

I think it is possible to painlessly simplify the interface and some service
opportunities. In general, are only 48 boards being produced now? If not, and they
have 128 mode, then what prevents you from using it, why support 48?
Or did I understand everything wrong? ;) I'm not very familiar with the shadow game.
By the way, is it possible to launch it not on Scorpio - for example, on Pro or on an
emulator?

AM> {skipped a lot of "interesting" disputes!}

The dispute has really ceased to be interesting :( I refuse to continue it.
In any case, turning to EM.

DG>> Do you want to say that I’m the only one left :-))

Already left. It's hard to talk to a wall, although at times it's funny ;)

AM> Andrew

Regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN).

AM>> By the way, a question. What if we “forgot” “full” support for mode 48
AM>> in Scorpio. More precisely, in the current boards. “Full” means
AM>> that the user will enter the monitor, but for “part” of the commands he will receive
AM>> a “funny screen” with a message that “hardware no access”.

VL> Uh, can you see the list of these commands?

The most important thing is that the screen for the debugger in 48 mode will not be remembered. And
then - as the stack fills - as soon as it runs out - then there is a window.

Andrew

DG> The dispute has really ceased to be interesting :( I refuse to continue it
DG>. At least, turning to EM.
As far as I remember, more than a month ago I suggested that you calmly talk
in soap. And you haven’t come up with anything better than starting a campaign against me online and in this echo
. Or am I wrong in something? ?Have you ever answered me with soap?

DG> quite justified, if you do not forget that this is a downloadable program. Yes, and
DG> the shadow page occupies the 8th page, if I’m not mistaken...

And the 9th!

AM>> What if we “forget” about “full” support for mode 48 in Scorpio.
DG> I think it’s possible to painlessly simplify the interface and some service
DG> capabilities. In general, are only 48 boards being produced now?

IMHO no.

DG> If not and they have 128 mode, then what prevents you from using
DG> them, why support 48? Or did I get it all wrong? ;)

If some “old” (and not very) program goes into mode 48 (writes
a bit to the 7ffdh solution), then, according to the “canons”, you can only transfer this bit back
by a hardware reset. Entry into the TM remains, of course, possible. Now
the monitor performs all functions regardless of the operating mode (both a debugger and
maintenance of “hemorrhoids” - HDD, CMOS & NVRAM, menu, etc). But somehow I became
not comfortable, and I wanted some of the functions, for example, saving the screen at the entrance,
partly some “beauties” when working with the menu, “take out”.

DG> I’m not very familiar with the shadow. By the way, is it possible to launch it
DG> not on Scorpio - for example, on Pro

Yes. (From thatwith the caveat that it is necessary to “finish” the Scorpio ports
memory management).

DG> or on the emulator?

On the Scorpio emulator - easily.

Andrew

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Wednesday March 12, 1997, 00:26, Andrew MOA with Dmitry Grigoryev said nicely:
[ Gnawed! ]
DG>> or on an emulator?

AM> On a Scorpio emulator - easily.
Is there such a thing? :-\

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Wednesday March 12, 1997 00:26, Andrew MOA wrote to Dmitry Grigoryev:

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AM> If some “old” (and not very) program enters the 48
AM> mode (writes a bit in the 7ffdh size), then, according to the “canons”, translate this
AM> bit the only way back is by hard reset.

And in several other ways, in my opinion. You have your own hardware - what are the “canons” :)
What prevents you from opening port #7FFD when entering TM, and closing it when exiting? And then, the Scorpio memory will remain accessible when the 128th is closed? So
use it.

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AM> somehow I didn’t feel comfortable, and I wanted some of the functions, for example,
AM> saving the screen at the entrance, partially some “beauties” when
AM> the menu is working, “take out”.

You can, of course, do without them, but, I’m sure, guaranteeing the operation of the program
in all possible modes is much more “hemorrhagic” than creating the one it needs Wednesday...

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SP> Is there such a thing? :-\

Yes. True, this is more of a debugger for internal consumption.

Andrew