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From Evgeny Milun → To All 18 February 1998
Hello Artem !
Saturday February 14 1998 12:01, Artem Kharitonov AAA All:
AH> | MMMMM MMMM MMMM MMMM sPECCY cOURIER tEAM B
AH> | NNNF NNN NNF NNF POWERED BY DIGITAL REALITY B
AH> | NNN NNN LNNNN LNNNN rUSSIA // nOVGOROD tHE great |
AH> |_[wareznfo]_____________________ MMM MM MMMM MMMM MMMM MMMMM |
AH> | RELEASE NAME: Infarct Megademo | NNNFNN NNNFNN NNN NNF MFL |
AH> | rELEAZED....: Real Masters | LNNNNL NNN NN NNN LNNNN NNNNN |
AH> | cOURIERED...: aR7Y/dR/FW |_[sysnfo]__________________________
AH> |_[blablablanfo]_________________| file name...........: INFARCT.ZIP
H┴╙╦╧╠╪╦╧ ╤ ╨╧╬╤╠, ╒ ╫┴╙ ╨╧ ╓╔┌╬╔ "CAPS LOCK" ╫╦╠└▐┼╬ ?
ŝ╠╔ ▄╘╧ ╬╧╕╬╬╕ "CAPS LOCK" ╫╦╠└▐┼╬ ? , Ј┴╦ ╙╦┴┌┴╘╪ - "═┘ ╨╧╩─┼═
─p╒╟╔═ ╨╒╘┼═". r╬╬┘┼ ╠┼╬╔╬├┘, ┬╠╔╬...
Good luck! Evgeny.
F H╧▐╪ ╦╧p╧▐┼ ─╬╤... f┼╬╪ ╒┬╪┼╘ ═┼╬╤... é╔p ╔╠╠└┌╔╩ ╫ ╬┼═ ╙╟╩p┴┼╘. (ê) sp╔╤.
From Igor Gruzdev → To All 20 February 1998
Hello, Evgeny!
It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter written from Evgeny Milun to
Artem Haritonov Wed Feb 18, 1998 at 4:30 pm...
AH>> | ▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ sPECCY COURIER tEAM │
AH>> | ███■ ███ ██■ ██■ pOWERED bY digital rEALITY │
AH>> | ███ ███ ▀████ ▀████ rUSSIA // nOVGOROD tHE gREAT |
AH>> |_[wareznfo]_____________________ ▄▄▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ |
AH>> | rELEAZE nAME: Infarct Megademo | ███■██ ███■██ ███ ██■ ▄■▀ |
AH>> | rELEAZED....: Real Masters | ▀████▀ ███ ██ ███ ▀████ █████ |
From Andy Harchenko → To All 20 February 1998
EM> As far as I understand, in your life “CAPS LOCK” is turned on?
EM> Or is this a new trend of “modern cool youth” - to write a word
EM> in capital letters, and start it with a lowercase one? So to speak - “we
From Max Lanskih → To All 20 February 1998
AH> | ▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ sPECCY cOURIER tEAM │
AH> | ███■ ███ ██■ ██■ pOWERED bY dIGITAL rEALITY │
AH> | ███ ███ ▀████ ▀████ rUSSIA // nOVGOROD tHE gREAT |
AH> |_[wareznfo]_____________________ ▄▄▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ |
AH> | rELEAZE nAME: Infarct Megademo | ███■██ ███■██ ███ ██■ ▄■▀ |
AH> | rELEAZED....: Real Masters | ▀████▀ ███ ██ ███ ▀████ █████ |
AH> | cOURIERED...: aR7Y/dR/FW |_[sysnfo]__________________________
AH> |_[blablablanfo]_________________| fILE nAME...........: INFARCT.ZIP
From Artem Haritonov → To All 21 February 1998
EM> H┴╙╦╧╠╪╦╧ ╤ ╨╧╬╤╠, ╒ ╫┴╙ ╨╧ ╓╔┌╬╔ "CAPS LOCK" ╫╦╠└▐┼╬ ?
EM> щ╠╔ ▄╘╧ ╬╧╫╧┼ ╫┼╤╬╔┼ "╙╧╫p┼═┼╬╬╧╩ ╦pр╘╧╩ ═╧╠╧─┼╓╔" - ╨╔╙┴╘╪ ╙╠╧╫╧
EM> ┌┴╟╠┴╫╬┘═╔ ┬╒╦╫┴═╔, ┴ ╬┴▐╔╬┴╘╪ ┼╟╧ ╙╧ ╙╘p╧▐╬╧╩ ? Ї┴╦ ╙╦┴┌┴╘╪ - "═┘ ╨╧╩─┼═
EM> ─p╒╟╔═ ╨╒╘┼═" р╬╬┘┼ ╠┼╬╔╬├┘, ┬╠╔╬...
ы╧╬╞╠╔╦╘ ╨╧╦╧╠┼╬╔╩? Ї┼┬╤ ▄╘╧ ╦╧╥╧┬╔╘? ё ╥┴─ =)
cYes, aR7Y/dR/FW Ю Ю Ю ЮЮЮ Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ЮЮЮ Ю Ю Ю
From Artem Haritonov → To All 21 February 1998
EM>> As far as I understand, in your life “CAPS LOCK” is turned on?
EM>> Or is this a new trend of “modern cool youth” - to write the word
EM>> in capital letters, and start it with lowercase? So to speak - “we
EM>> will go a different way.” Damn young Leninists...
From Artem Haritonov → To All 21 February 1998
HeYa, Max!
Friday February 20 1998 13:03, Max Lanskih wrote to All:
ML> Mlyn!!! Why don't I have this??? When did they throw it???
A week ago... Look on the Internet. Ha Acid Nature!
cYa, aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·
From Pavel Nikonov → To All 22 February 1998
From the garden >to the people: 02/04/98
PS. I can send it with soap...
<- With best regardz,Pavel ->
ZX - The Power of Shock (c) Pol Freeman
From Pavel Nikonov → To All 22 February 1998
PS. I can send it with soap...
<- With best regardz,Pavel ->
ZX - The Power of Shock (c) Pol Freeman
From Evgeny Milun → To All 23 February 1998
EM>> As far as I understand, you have “CAPS LOCK” turned on in your life?
EM>> Or is this a new trend of “modern cool youth” - to write the word
EM>> in capital letters, and start it with lowercase? So to speak - “we
EM>> will go a different way.” Young Leninists, damn it...
From Andy Harchenko → To All 26 February 1998
EM> No, why, I don’t forbid it... In the end, it’s their right -
EM> to expose themselves as badass...
That’s right, it’s their right! And no one can stop them (us) from doing this.
Wiz zE BeSt WisHeZ 2 U!
-=JoCkeR/OmEga HaCkErS Grp/1998year=-
From Sergei Novikov → To All 26 February 1998
EM>>>> As far as I understand, in your life “CAPS LOCK” is turned on?
EM>>>> Or is this a new trend of “modern cool youth” - to write the word
EM>>>> in capital letters, and start it with lowercase? So to speak -
EM>>>> “we will go a different way.” Young Leninists, damn it...
From Max Lanskih → To All 26 February 1998
AH> A week ago... Search on the Internet. Ha Acid Nature!
We're sick of the Internet. I don't have it. And it won't happen in the near future. :(
With The Best Wishes. [TEAM Speccy-r00leZ] [TEAM X-fILes]
[TEAM ┼he Pr0d!9Y] MaGeLan.
From Evgeny Milun → To All 27 February 1998
EM>>>> As far as I understand, in your life “CAPS LOCK” is turned on?
EM>>>> Or is this a new trend of “modern cool youth” - to write the word
EM>>>> in capital letters, and start it with lowercase? So to speak -
EM>>>> “we will go a different way.” Young Leninists, damn it...
AH>>> And if so, then you’re forbidding something, you’re our old democrat.
EM>> No, why don’t I forbid it... In the end, it’s their right -
EM>> to expose themselves as badass...
From Evgeny Milun → To All 27 February 1998
Hello Sergei !
Thursday February 26 1998 23:27, Sergei Novikov ─── Andy Harchenko:
SN> Don’t pay attention. Put yourself in his shoes. A person is offended that he has been an outsider for some time and has not been paid attention to.
Well, if I am an outsider among “releasers” like you, then I am only happy about it...
SN> So he finds fault with every “squiggle” ;)
And let’s remember how this conversation began. Do you remember? That's right - from Artie's phrase that he "now has to write an article" where he
tells us that his design style is "branded and standard."
From Vladimir Yudin → To All 3 March 1998
AH>> condition.
EM> Read my previous message - no one forbids DOING, but
EM> here’s to prove that this is “according to the standard”...
Let’s go in order:
1. Artem threw a demo into the echo, he DID it, because... no one forbids him from doing this (your words above).
2. You ran into him and began to prove that this was not “according to the standard.”
3. You were told that he is free to format the accompanying information
as he pleases (after all, no one forbids him to DO this).
4. You began to attack what they were telling you, as “according to the standard.”
Don’t you think that you yourself started an argument and are arguing with yourself?
Sincerely
┬ ┬┌┐┬┐ ┐┬┬
╨╜╨╙╜╨╙ ╨ ╨
From Artem Haritonov → To All 4 March 1998
HeYa, Evgeny!
Friday February 27 1998 16:43, Evgeny Milun wrote to Sergei Novikov:
EM> Let's remember how this conversation began. Do you remember? That's right -
EM> from Artie's phrase that he "now has to write an article" where he
EM> will tell us that his design style is "branded and standard". offices; a world where there are no
of your notorious, set-your-set-on-set standards; where there is no ms sux, where no one
looks at GOSTs; where people simply do what they like according to the unspoken rules of the scene; where money and authority and popularity are not put at the forefront
is not sold for them;
We are talking to you about different things. If you ever understand what I'm talking about, or touch on it (although you're unlikely to be interested), but still...
You measure everything by the standards acquired at the university and the environment in which you move.
We are different people, the only thing that unites us in the slightest degree is speccy.
And so, Welcome to the world of alternative and progressive!
PS: If I ever take money from you for a program written by our
company on Speccy/Amiga/PC - you will receive documentation for all your favorite
standards, but for now... Set ya mind FREE!
cYa,aR7Y/dR/FW · · · ··· Email: ar...@telecom.nov.ru ··· · · ·
From Evgeny Milun → To All 5 March 1998
VY> Let's go in order: VY> Don't you think that you started the argument yourself? and are you arguing with yourself? P.S. Do you think that, for example, the debate started by Grigoriev on the topic
And this is called "order"? ;)))
VY> 1. Artem threw the demo into the echo, he DID it, because no one forbids him
VY> (your words above).
1.1 Igor Gruzdev asked Artie who taught him how to design
texts - in a “cool” style.
1.2 Artie said with a feeling of deep sadness of an old teacher addressing
unwise and careless schoolchildren something like “well, now
you have to write an article about how to correctly format your texts.”
After which (or before?) he just as sadly said that he had done “everything according to the norms
nfo.
VY> 2. You attacked him and began to prove that this is not “according to the standard”.
More precisely, I said that I don’t know such a “standard” and have never
heard about it.
VY> 3. You were told that he is free to draw up the accompanying information
VY> as he pleases (after all, DOING does not prohibit him no one).
Hmmm... Okay, let's not talk about that...
VY> 4. You began to attack what they tell you as “standard.”
:))) See (1.2) and commentary on (2). And also:
5. From the discussion of the topic “formatting accompanying texts of programs”,
“adjacent party”, for some reason I began to talk about the following topics: (1) “whatI want a block
in my program, so I put it like that, as I want, and organize this
function" and (2) "since the program is frivolous, then I can at least swear in it
and draw genitals on the screensavers, and you all should say
thank me for that."
You know, it doesn’t seem like it. Because otherwise (and I’m afraid, even now) another article would have appeared in the 0th
Scenergy, after reading which the young “cool
coders” would have started to create another persecution, after which the rest of the
computer world would simply twist their finger at their temples and say - “look, these spektrumists are becoming more and more lame, even a mental hospital can’t cure them.” And there are many other reasons...
“is PLM an iron emulator” is more meaningful for everyone? although
is a little familiar with circuit design and knows what a “truth table” is,
there is absolutely no difference between, say, a decoder “in one
decoder chip”, “an assembly of several logical elements”, and
“set by a matrix in the PLN”.
So, lately (the last six months, if not more) senseless
disputes in this echo - chew at least in one place.
From Andrey Mihaylow → To All 6 March 1998
Hi Artem !
Wednesday March 04 1998 09:31 Artem Haritonov to Evgeny Milun:
AH> Nonsense... I meant that I would share how this is done all over the world, but
AH> not the one you are used to seeing from the window of your programmer
AH> office; a world where there are no your notorious, set your teeth on edge,
AH> standards; where there is no ms sux,
MS is off-topic because they do everything in their own way and don’t listen to anyone.
AH> where no one looks at GOST standards;
This is bad, if they looked and did everything wisely, there would be no problems with #fd,
extended memory, additional screens and so on. Otherwise, everyone imagines themselves to be
someone, thinks that he is smarter than everyone else and tries to “cook up” something, without looking at what other people had done before him. Although, on the other hand, standards could
slow down the development of speccy, so this is a double-edged sword...
Sincerely, Andrey Mihaylow
From Evgeny Milun → To All 6 March 1998
AH> Nonsense... I meant that I would share how this is done all over the world, but not in the
AH> one that you are used to seeing from the window of your programmer's office; a world
AH> where your notorious, set-your-set-on-set standards are not there; where there is no ms sux,
AH> where no one looks at GOST standards; where people just do what they
AH> like according to the unspoken rules of the scene; where money
AH> is not put at the forefront and authority and popularity are not sold for it;
Is Monsieur a science fiction writer? ;)) Oh, I forgot, Monsieur is just a young nihilist who has never been to any computer center or company that produces programs. :)))
AH> We are talking to you about
AH> different things. If you ever understand what I'm talking about, or touch
AH> to this (although you are unlikely to be interested), but still...
To “this”, what is this? To “work not for money”? Well, that’s how I work.
AH> You measure everything by the standards acquired at the university and the environment
AH> in which you move.
Is this bad? Those. the fact that I'm used to thinking in terms of the standards of professional
programmers? In a word (correct me if I'm wrong): the fact that I'm trying to apply the knowledge and experience that I received at the institute for the benefit of the Spectrum is bad. OK. Then let me ask a question - how should an “average” Spectrum author measure everything?
(Did I already say that the Spectrum is an amazing computer? Everything that is valued and welcomed on any other computer (knowledge, experience, appropriate
education) - on the Spectrum (more precisely, among people who call themselves the Spectrum elite) is not only not valued, but also on the contrary...)
AH> We are different people, the only thing that more or less unites us is
AH> speccy. And so, Welcome to the world of alternative and progressive!
;)))))) No, you misunderstood me... But, we are really different
people...